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    • Morning dx and thank you for your message.   With regards to your comment about them not needing to produce the deed, the additional directions ordered by the judge included 'a copy of any assignment o the debt or agreement relied upon'  so that is why I thought that point was relevant?
    • Sorry for the long post but I don't want to miss out any relevant information: My wife bought a car from Trade Centre UK and have been having nothing but trouble with it. Unfortunately we paid of the finance used to buy the car as we weren't expecting this much trouble with the car as we we though we would have protection as buying from a dealer. We are wondering if we can still reject the vehicle since the finance plan has been paid off. Timeline is as follows: 13/12/2023 -15/12/2023 Bought car from Trade Centre UK for £10548 £2000 deposit paid on credit card on 13/12/2023 £8548 on finance from Moneybarn (arranged through Trade Centre UK). picked up car on 15/12/2023 Also bought lifetime warranty for £50/month 25/12/2023 Engine Management Light comes on. The AA called out and diagnosed the following error codes: P0133 - Lambda sensor (bank 1, sensor 1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Slow reaction. Error sporadic P0135 - Lambda sensor heat. circ.(bank1,sensor1) Oxygen Sensor. 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During drive home light comes back on. 29/12/2023 - 29/01/2024 I carry on driving the car but closer to the date, engine goes to reduced power every now and again – not being a mechanic I presumed that this was due to above fault. 20/01/2024 Not expecting any more problems paid off the finance on the car using personal loan from bank with lower interest rate. 30/01/2024 Trade Centre replace to O2 sensor (They also take it on a roughly 60mile road trip which seems a bit excessive to me – I can’t prove this as something prompted me take a picture of milage when I handed car in but I forgot take one on collection – only remembered next day.) 06/02/2024 Engine goes in reduced power mode again and engine management light comes on – Thinking the Trade centre’s 28 day warranty period was over I booked the car the into local garage for the next day to get problem fixed under the lifetime warranty package. Fault seems to clear after engine was switched off. 07/02/2024 In the Morning, I take it to local garage who say as the light gone off – the warranty company is unlikely to cover the cost of the repair or diagnostics and recommend I contact them when the light comes back on. In the evening the light comes back on and luckily I manage to get it back to the garage just before it shuts for the day. 08/02/2024 The Garage sends me a diagnostics video showing a lot error codes been picked up by their diagnostics machine including codes for Oxygen sensor and Nox Sensors, Accelerator pedal and several more. Video also shows EGR Hose not connected to the intake manifold properly, they believed this was confusing the onboard system as it is unlikely this many sensors would trigger at same the time but they couldn’t be certain until they repaired the hose. 13/02/2024 Finally get the car back as it took a while to get approval and payment for the repairs from the Warranty company. Garage told me to keep an eye the car as errors had cleared with the hose but couldn’t 100% certain that’s what caused the problem. 06/03/2024 Engine management light comes on again. Fed up I go into Trade Centre as I was just around the corner when it happened and asked them how to reject the car or have the problem fixed. They insist that as it’s over 28 days I need to get the car fixed under the warranty package I purchased and they could no longer fix the car as it was over 28 days. When I tried telling them it appeared to be the same or related problem they said they couldn’t help as I hadn’t contacted them earlier. I asked them if they were willing to connect the car to the diagnostics machine and tell me what the problem was, as a goodwill gesture, which he agreed to do and took the car to the back He came back around 30 minutes later and said they took a look at the sensor they replaced previously and there was nothing wrong with it and engine management light went off when they removed the sensor to check it. When I asked what the error code he couldn’t give me an exact fault but the said it one of the problems I told him earlier (Accelerator pedal). I have this visit audio recorded on my phone – I informed the reps I was recording several times. As the light wasn’t on, local garage couldn’t book me for a repair under warranty. 07/03/2024 Light came on so managed to book back into local garage for the 12/03/2024 Whilst waiting to take car into garage, I borrowed a OBD sensor and scanned for errors on the car. This showed the following errors: P11BE – Manufacturer specific code (Google showed this to be NOX sensor) P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow 12/03/2024 Took car to local garage and the confirmed the above errors. This leads me to believe that either Trade Centre UK reps lied and just reset the light or just didn’t check properly (Obviously I am unable to prove this) 22/03/2024 Finally got the car back as according to garage, the warranty company took a long to time to pay for the repairs 28/04/2024 Engine management Light has come back on. Using the borrowed OBD scanner I am getting the following codes: P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow P2138 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185): Implausible Correlation I have not yet booked into a garage as I wanted to see what my rights are in terms of rejecting the car as to me the faults seem related. I can’t keep using taxi or train to get to work every time the car goes into the garage as it is getting very expensive. Am I right in thinking that they have used up their chance to repair when they conducted the repair end of January or when they refused to repair it in February ? If I am still able to reject the vehicle could you point to any sample letters or emails I can use. Thankyou for your advice on my next steps.
    • Ok noted about the screenshot uploads. In terms of screwing up I had one previous ticket that defaulted and ended up in a CCJ from Southend airport because for some reason during COVID I didn't receive their claim form just a notice of default. This hospital ticket was the 2nd ticket that went to CCJ due to a lack of knowledge of the process. Maybe it's easier just to pay them in future I'm thinking though, I don't get them very often anyway
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    • please stop posting up unnecessary unnamed screenshot files  you've done it throughout your threads and we have to renamed them. RENAME THE FILE before you upload if its just text information like a defence or a claim history or a link to a previous post  type it here not by an unnamed screenshot attachment  . sorry NM but you've been here dealing with PPC claims since 2021 somehow you always manage to screw up.......or do totally the opposite of std repeated advice on 10'000 of PPC threads here you are your own worst enemy... dx  
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CCJ for old Cat debt - now County Court letter - re: Final reminder Notice To Debtor


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Hi I am in a spot of bother and I don't know what to do. 

 

A couple of years back I got a catalogue, (never again)

we are on benefits because of my health issues.

We have 6 children and my husband is my carer 

 

My daughters best friend (16 at the time)moved in with us Due to family issues within her home. So we took her in.

 

Things were ok at first and when Christmas came around I thought I'd use the catalogue to manage to cover most of the children's gifts.

For a long time I was managing to cover the basic payments plus. 

 

At first I was meant to pay £40 per month minimum payment, so I thought I would pay £40 per week to get it paid off faster. I've never had a catalogue before so didn't have a clue. Even though I was paying over the minimum amount I was getting high charges (one being over £100 per month) I couldn't understand it but continue paying. At one point they said they made a mistake and the payments were meant to he higher.  I struggled on. Then my sister who got the same catalogue said the same thing was happening to her Eventually 

 

Things got harder at home, some benefits had stopped. And benefits were reduced dramatically.   My daughter has been doing a college course and is in her final year, but bc of her age her child benefits stopped, and  she can't claim anything (ie universal credit) whilst in school.   She did get a part time job working 2 days a week but then got let go because they stated they didn't have enough hours. 

 

I was receiving debt collecting letters but I threw them away because i knew I couldn't pay them as we are struggling to get by as it is. Now they sent a letter stating they are going to send the bailiffs. 

 

We have told our children not to open the door to anyone and now we will be locking all doors behind us when we come in. 

 

I read if the door is unlocked or window they can enter through the window or door. That horrifies me especially if i am home alone, Our children are constantly coming in and out and alsorts of scenarios are playing through my mind. Its 1.46am and I just cant sleep for the worry. Its not helping my panic disorder.

 

I worry if I offer them £5 per month and that's pushing it, that they will tell me that it's not enough to cover the interest. If I call them and try set up a payment plan  and I cant afford to pay it they will come take everything we have. 

 

They can't take my mobility scooter can they as its a lease through pip?

 

Another thing I wander if we lock our back gate if they ask the neighbour if they can have access to their garden can they just jump the fence into our garden and enter that way, as I worry they may come when we are in the garden. The shared fence is only around  4ft 

 

Please can anyone advise? I dont think I've ever been so worried 

 

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rubbish 

 

bailiffs can only ever be involved in a consumer credit debt if you've been taken to COURT, LOST, got a CCJ failed to pay, and the claimant returns to court anD ASKS the judge to send COURT bailiffs..

 

i suspect you are nowhere along that line and haven't a clue what the above means.

:)

 

i suspect you have a simple DCA letter, a DCA in NOT A BAILIFF!

 

scan up the letters that are giving you these unnecessary panic.

 

read our upload guide CAREFULLY

use one mass  PDF ONLY.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No I forgot to mention I did get a ccj but I didn't respond. 

I have no clue how to deal with it all. 

I got a letter stating the court has a warrant to collect monies I owe. 

Its from a county court it. 

 

The court has a warrant to collect monies that you owe on this debt. It is very important that you contact the court to discuss ways you can manage this debt 

 

If you do not contact the court to discuss this debt a bailiff will visit your home. 

 

This is your final chance to talk to the court to stop a bailiff visiting.

 

Then it goes onto say how I can stop the bailiff from visiting me?

Tells me to act now by calling the warrant of control support team.

 

I was going to call them but I read online that If I contact them and offer to pay £5 a week they would refuse it as it won't cover interest? Many people have told me just dont talk to them. I dont know what to do. 

 

Call them and risk it and potentially make it worse. Because I can't afford to pay more than a fiver a week I'm struggling as it is. Or try dodge them for the next 6years.

 

I read if you make an agreement and you break it they can get a locksmith to enter your home.  If I knew they would definitely take the five pounds a week I'd gladly call them and pay it. 

 

 

Ok found out how to do it

 

CC Final Reminder - Notice to Debtor.pdf

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So you need to contact the Court and ask to have a hearing about your means to repay the debt. They will then look at your financial situation and how much you could afford to pay each week/month.

 

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to CCJ for old Cat debt - now County Court letter - re: Final reminder Notice To Debtor

there is no right of forced entry upon consumer credit CCJ's by Bailiffs, so your simple 'idea' to ignore bailiffs pretty much works to all intent and purpose, though it would be better to deal ASAP to avoid the £310 bailiffs fees that could be added.

 

if you have no other paperwork whatsoever

like the original court stuff for the claim or a copy of the CCJ you need to go get that info

we need a copy of the judgement for claimant and a copy of the claimform.

 

you'll need to CCJ claim number from that letter.

 

ring ring northants bulk 

ask for a copy of the judgement CCJ and the Claimform by email pdf.

 

they might not have a copy of the claimform, so ASK then to either READ OUT the particulars of claim or send it as a PDF too.

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once you have that info

comeback here with the Particulars of claim.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I would be submitting an N245 in the meantime to suspend the warrant  and get an affordable payment plan in place through the court.

Then you can look at trying to get the CCJ set a side...should you have a valid defence and reasons.

 

 

The fee us now  £14.00

 

Andy.

 

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