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    • Thank you for posting up the results from the sar. The PCN is not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4. Under Section 9 [2][a] they are supposed to specify the parking time. the photographs show your car in motion both entering and leaving the car park thus not parking. If you have to do a Witness Statement later should they finally take you to Court you will have to continue to state that even though you stayed there for several hours in a small car park and the difference between the ANPR times and the actual parking period may only be a matter of a few minutes  nevertheless the CEL have failed to comply with the Act by failing to specify the parking period. However it looks as if your appeal revealed you were the driver the deficient PCN will not help you as the driver. I suspect that it may have been an appeal from the pub that meant that CEL offered you partly a way out  by allowing you to claim you had made an error in registering your vehicle reg. number . This enabled them to reduce the charge to £20 despite them acknowledging that you hadn't registered at all. We have not seen the signs in the car park yet so we do not what is said on them and all the signs say the same thing. It would be unusual for a pub to have  a Permit Holders Only sign which may discourage casual motorists from stopping there. But if that is the sign then as it prohibits any one who doesn't have a permit, then it cannot form a contract with motorists though it may depend on how the signs are worded.
    • Defence and Counterclaim Claim number XXX Claimant Civil Enforcement Limited Defendant XXXXXXXXXXXXX   How much of the claim do you dispute? I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form.   Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it? No, for other reasons.   Defence 1. The Defendant is the recorded keeper of XXXXXXX 2. It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3. As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance. The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner. Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 4. In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5. The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 6. In a further abuse of the legal process the Claimant is claiming £50 legal representative's costs, even though they have no legal representative. 7. The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.   Signed I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true XXXXXXXXXXX 01/05/2024   Defendant's date of birth XXXXXXXXXX   Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you  
    • pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.  Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time.  You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.  You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.<<**IMPORTANT**  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim type your name ONLY no need to sign anything .you DO NOT await the return of paperwork. you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.
    • well post it here as a text in a the msg reply half of it is blanked out. dx  
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Everything Johnson is doing is following trumps lead - trying to insert his people or himself as the end decider in everything - especially who can vote and who decides if hes officially declared a corrupt liar

 

Murmers of a recall movement against the pincher, and of desperate attempts by Johnsons lackeys to suppress it and the associated Tamworth by-election

 

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New name for the 'used-to-be-tory' Party

- The populist pooper scooper Party

 

as they are constantly picking up Johnsons & co's doodoo

 

Hope everyone who hasnt got 'suitable' (whatever that will be) pictorial ID is going to their local town hall and asking for some.

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I see Starmers all over the news saying yah boo to EU.

.. just when everyone else has come to the conclusion that Brexit really was the biggest event of self-harm we've ever done.

 

Piers Morgan

 

I now hope one of Johnsons lackies is in charge at Darlington police and Starmer gets a fine, justified or not.

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Starmer seems to have forgotten that far more Labour voters voted remain than voted leave

perhaps he thinks they have nowhere else to go?

 

Perhaps they will literally go nowhere and stay at home

Perhaps they will go to the libs. Seems more likely now than before as traditional allegiances have been widely broken in all areas.

 

Are the libs going to be kingmakers again?

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"Chi Onwurah (Lab) says, rather than investigate when Boris Johnson has lied, whether it might save time to hold an inquiry into whether he has ever told the truth."

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Just looking at the current views on the ins and outs of an October election and saw this

 

"Case, who worked as Private Secretary to Prince William before being given his big promotion by Johnson, knows whereof he speaks. Asked by committee chairman William Wragg if he would be “uncomfortable if a Prime Minister capriciously requested of Her Majesty a Dissolution”, Case replied: “It would be quite wrong for the Prime Minister to put the sovereign in a difficult position constitutionally.”

- Waugh

 

WTFleck?

Have they forgotten Johnson unlawfully proroguing Parliament already?

- Case spouting johnsonisms through his teeth it seems

 

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laughter -but its no joke that British ministers will stand up before their peers and the British public and spout this tripe in support of a ****ing ****bag corrupt liar

 

They are laughing at us all really - they should be shouting SHAME SHAME

 

 

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Sunack and Javid, leader hopefuls have resigned ministerial positions

 

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If they are Johnsonites, they could well be lying ......

... or Johnsons spokesperson lying about them saying it

 

Can't trust a word any of the cabinet or the Johnsonite spads/Senior civil servants say.

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and what a surprise (not) Johnson apparently called a real leader - zelenskyy and tried to brief it for some smokescreen to his lying about lies about lies about the pincher 

 

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Johnson 'poisons the well of our democracy every day'

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Johnson on pincher (demonstrating his bare faced gall and utter inability to learn any lessons or change) :

Sorry - its now clear he wasn't going to learn any lessons and he wasn't going to change

 

 

Is that even nut nut briefing against him that the pincher should never have been promoted. ... LOL

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I'm certain Johnson will try to call a general election when all else has failed, there will be massive efforts by the Tory party to prevent that.

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Would be surprised if Boris is not gone by the end of this week. 

 

There may be other resignations in the pipeline from ministers and Tory backbenchers are probably now looking at who will replace Boris.

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I don't know if it will be that fast, UB, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

 

From Peston just now.

. has just gone into No10. The expectation is that he will be appointed Chancellor. Presumably, on the basis of what@Jacob_Rees_Mogg just said, the deal is he has to go against Treasury advice and reverse the rise in corporation tax

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Steve Barclay new health minister LOL

- desperation

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Interesting point:

There are statements about the 1922 committee 'elections in a few weeks 'allowing' a change to the rules to allow a second no confidence, with Bridgen saying he will force it.

.. not clear on this, but didn't the the 1922 committee threaten a change of rules against May to force her out after having a vote the results of which wasn't released and wouldn't be if she resigned (not that Johnson would)?

 

.. so why wait? Too many Johnson loyalists?

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Quite a few PPSs are resigning. Is this so they can vote in a 1922 committee vote next week?

 

But I suppose if they're replaced by people like my 2019 intake MP who seems desperate to keep in with No10, then that neutralises things. I don't think it's right for the government payroll to outnumber backbenchers, it certainly skews any 1922 vote.

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Read a funny comment online about Boris, who is a great admirer of Churchill.

 

"Less Churchill, more like Benny Hill" !

 

I can see political broadcasts in the pipeline by opposition parties showing videos with Boris being a clown, with the Benny Hill theme tune playing in the background.

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Tweet from Larry at 10 Downing Street threatening to leave.

 

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