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    • Thank you for posting up the results from the sar. The PCN is not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4. Under Section 9 [2][a] they are supposed to specify the parking time. the photographs show your car in motion both entering and leaving the car park thus not parking. If you have to do a Witness Statement later should they finally take you to Court you will have to continue to state that even though you stayed there for several hours in a small car park and the difference between the ANPR times and the actual parking period may only be a matter of a few minutes  nevertheless the CEL have failed to comply with the Act by failing to specify the parking period. However it looks as if your appeal revealed you were the driver the deficient PCN will not help you as the driver. I suspect that it may have been an appeal from the pub that meant that CEL offered you partly a way out  by allowing you to claim you had made an error in registering your vehicle reg. number . This enabled them to reduce the charge to £20 despite them acknowledging that you hadn't registered at all. We have not seen the signs in the car park yet so we do not what is said on them and all the signs say the same thing. It would be unusual for a pub to have  a Permit Holders Only sign which may discourage casual motorists from stopping there. But if that is the sign then as it prohibits any one who doesn't have a permit, then it cannot form a contract with motorists though it may depend on how the signs are worded.
    • Defence and Counterclaim Claim number XXX Claimant Civil Enforcement Limited Defendant XXXXXXXXXXXXX   How much of the claim do you dispute? I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form.   Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it? No, for other reasons.   Defence 1. The Defendant is the recorded keeper of XXXXXXX  2. It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3. As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance. The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner. Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 4. In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5. The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 6. In a further abuse of the legal process the Claimant is claiming £50 legal representative's costs, even though they have no legal representative. 7. The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all. Signed I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true XXXXXXXXXXX 01/05/2024   Defendant's date of birth XXXXXXXXXX   Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you  
    • pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.  Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time.  You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.  You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.<<**IMPORTANT**  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim type your name ONLY no need to sign anything .you DO NOT await the return of paperwork. you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.
    • well post it here as a text in a the msg reply half of it is blanked out. dx  
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Yes but it could well be founded on the Climate Change schtick, as Ed and Lib Dems are eco warrior's and want to replace gas with Renewables.

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look at sse being 'harassed by an investor group that wants to split it up to get more shareholder 'value' stipped out if it rather than it invest in the business

 

I'll link some info when I'm back if needed. On very bad xonnection doe a few days

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I am getting prepared for no gas and electric.

 

60 cans of baked beans, sauna suits and elastic bands.

 

At least I would stay warm, even if the beans are cold :)

 

There has been talk for years that energy supplies during the Winter have been close to not meeting demand and there would be blackouts.  Hopefully this Winter won't be when they have to trigger emergency measures including closing down major users of power and having blackouts for periods.

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UB, this article fro the Guardian's economics editor relates to some of what you're saying. He's talking about a triple financial whammy and at least some of it comes from the 'just in time' economy.

 

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The combined challenges loom of an economic slowdown, rising energy costs and the transition to net zero, says Guardian economics editor Larry...

 

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, getting gas canisters and extra batteries rechargeable and standard. have camping stoves 2 gas one petrol Coleman.

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Overhead powerlines and high winter winds often 100 kph, mean outages sometimes

 

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There isn't on a cold clear frosty january or february day here With the high wind speeds, the turbines are feathered like the propeller on a dead Lancster engine returning from Berlin.

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Not surpising some people opt to move to the South of France.  

 

I can see many more Brits looking across the channel and being a bit jealous of our French neighbours.  Economic outlook for France is looking a lot healthier than the UK, good level of growth and low inflation.

 

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What is Johnson trying to do now? Even the Mail thinks he risks inflaming things further with France. First the jibes in Franglais and now Macron is behaving like a lover being jilted at the last minute. I guess Bozo has plenty of experience of dealing with that.

 

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The head of Iceland supermarkets says there are more food banks than branches of Macdonalds in th UK, on BBC Question Time.

 

Also that removing the increase in UC will mean a choice between heating and eat for large numbers of people. In one of the richest countries in the world, it's not right.

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1441157610955100168

 

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UK should not need food banks.

 

Biggest issue affecting UK household finances is the cost of housing.

 

In my area in the south west, it costs about £1000 a month for a 2 bedroom house. 

 

OK If there are 2 people in work earning above national minimum wage.  But if one of them is not able to work for any period or they are self employed with no work coming in, they may struggle to cover rent and also be able to pay for basic living costs.

 

If people are in employment, where the earnings are not going to be reliable, as soon as they start struggling they need to be making a claim for Universal Credit. This may provide benefit entitlement which will help towards living costs, during any period where earnings are reduced.

 

Use a benefits calculator website such as Turn2us or Entitledto, to check the level of earnings where claiming Universal Credit might be required to provide support during a downturn in earnings.

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I hope people are able to read this in the New York Times. Their thoughts on the PM's style and ambition to join the USMCA agreement.

 

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U.K.’s prime minister makes headlines, yet experts say it is unclear if his lighthearted style is helping stake out a post-Brexit role on the global stage.

 

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On 22/09/2021 at 20:09, brassnecked said:

, getting gas canisters and extra batteries rechargeable and standard. have camping stoves 2 gas one petrol Coleman.

 

We always got 'bonfire night' and all its associations to address the issues

Light, warmth, Food, Fireworks ... political change ... celebrations

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

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7 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

I hope people are able to read this in the New York Times. Their thoughts on the PM's style and ambition to join the USMCA agreement.

 

WWW.NYTIMES.COM

U.K.’s prime minister makes headlines, yet experts say it is unclear if his lighthearted style is helping stake out a post-Brexit role on the global stage.

 

 

 

Vassalage UK under incompetent lair Johnson has no credibility left anywhere

lets face it - Johnson has effectively declared the UK cant do owt without the US during the Afghanistan farce

 

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

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Join the Army

.. and drive a HGV

... which can at least carry a soldier more than 20 miles and not put them in traction .. unlike Johnsons plans for vehicles for the army

(see prior post)

 

and No shortage of Christmas Turkeys .. there's hundreds in parliament

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

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Could you remind me which post please, TJ?

 

Marina Hyde has a new opinion piece out, very aptly put and entirely in the PM's favour. :lol:

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The elephant in Housing costs are Council Tax  and leasehold Service Charges.......

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On 20/06/2021 at 09:21, tobyjugg2 said:

Each time I look at this thread, even the title is an offence and insult to the British (while it lasts) nation

 

What will we call England and Wales and its Tax haven protectorates?

 

Although Johnsons 'protection' runs to sub 20 miles now doesn't it?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/03/mod-military-pauses-trials-army-tank-fleet-safety-concerns-ajax

 

 

 

Reminder as requested

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

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"Actor Daniel Craig has been appointed an honorary Commander in the Royal Navy – the same rank as his James Bond character.

Perhaps it’s time Boris Johnson was appointed an honorary Lance Corporal in Dad’s Army"

- Adam Forrest

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

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