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    • What type of finance is it?   HP, PCP, Loan? They want her to ring so they can bully her into making payments she can't afford...unless she can record her calls then IMHO, I'd keep everything in writing. Is £400 SSP her only income? There's no chance they will justify taking half of that.   Lodge a formal complaint with them ASAP, exhaust it, and then you can escalate it sooner rather than later, ruddy sharks!  
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    • If I have learnt one thing from this forum, it's not to call and communicate via email. I passed this info on to her and they are pushing for her to call them.    "Unfortunately, you will need to call us. The conversation won’t be so black and white as to therefore type over email. In a nutshell we can confirm that the request to not pay for 3 months we cannot put in place"  I emailed them back on her behalf and said that what ever is discussed over the phone will need to be put in an email so that she can review it properly. No decisions will be made on that phone call.    "Once we speak to you on the phone we will follow up with an email to confirm the options discussed. [Phone number]"   Why are they pushing for a phone call? If its not so black and white, why can they then follow up with an email?  
    • Appreciate input Andy, updated: IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;     I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 12. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • Morning,  I am hoping someone can help, I am posting on behalf of my friend so I will try and provide as much info as possible.  Due health reasons, she is currently not working and unable to pay her contractual car finance payments. She emailed 247 Money and asked for a 3 month payment holiday, they refused this straight away with no reasons as to why. They have told her that instead she can make a payment of £200. She is currently getting £400+ a month ssp so this is not acceptable. She went back to them and explained she cannot make this payment and they have not offered an alternative plan. Its £200 or she falls into default.  She is now panicking as she does not want her car to be taken away. What options does she have?  Thank you, 
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I'm only just starting to look at this so I'll give you a full reply later on – but they are mocking you with an offer of 50 quid. It's up to you of course if you are inclined to accept – but personally I think you can do a lot better.

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we've seen figures of upto £1000 compo recommended by the FOS for like issues.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Having a quick look at this, it seems to me that £200 would be a reasonable settlement and that they would be pleased to pay to keep them out of court. You could even consider a bit more.

It says that you sent them an sar on 16 October. They have 30 days to respond with a disclosure and so far they haven't given you the disclosure. They are now asking you for further details of what you want.

If you sent a widely expressed SAR asking for everything – then they have no right to ask these questions and in fact they are delaying so that in the next few days they will be in breach of the SAR.

Furthermore, they say that they can only provide you with 12 months of data. You would want a reassurance that the 12 months of data is only available because anything earlier has been deleted or destroyed. They don't explain why they can only offer you 12 months of data. This seems rather extraordinary to me that they don't keep data for longer and you would want them to tell you the reason why going further back than 12 months is not possible. If they happen to tell you that it is a matter of policy then that would be a further breach.

You may be interested to know that Virgin Media recently told somebody else on this forum that they were only obliged to supply three months of data!

It's up to you if you want to take the 50 quid and leave it at that – but I think that £200 is a pretty easy win.

They have inaccurately processed your data and caused you damaged your credit reputation for a long time. You have no idea whether they still have the data. You can be pretty certain that the DCA will have your data on file and that it will stay there for much longer than 12 months. You say that you have checked your credit file – but does it refer to the debt and say that it is settled? Or have all traces of the issue completely disappeared from your credit file? You would insist on the latter.

Although it will take a threat of legal action against Tesco's to get this sorted out – and you might even have to issue the papers, there is no way that they would want to challenge this and so they would put their hands up and pay the money you are asking including your fees. Obviously there is a risk that they might want to take you into court, at the risk of this is negligible – and the chances of you losing are almost zero.

 

It would provide an interesting learning experience for you so that if you had this problem is again with anybody else in the future, you would have the confidence to go ahead and to deal with them head-on

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I'm going to send a letter saying I will not settle for less than £500, and add the points you have mentioned. I have nothing to lose after all. What's is the worst they can say - No jog on love? 

 

 

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Please can you not start firing off letters until we know what you are doing.

You're quite right you have nothing to lose – but we can help you make an effective claim in a way that they will take seriously.

Please wait for our advice. You've come to us for help – so let's all do it together.

Please can you post up the text of the SAR which you sent – to begin with.

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I also think that as the substantive issue of their problem is solved, that it would be helpful to begin the next element of the issue on a new thread.

That will make it easier for others to follow. So if you wouldn't mind starting a new thread and giving a quick rundown of the problem and post up the letters that you have received on that new thread and we can go from there.

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Yes you have now. It's fine

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