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ECP ANPR PCN - The Arcadian MCSP, 41 Bromsgrove Street, Birmingham, B5 6NU


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Hi there, my wife has received this addressed to our old address. We haven’t long moved house, so it’s been caught with the redirection. Before I send any appeal, please see below.

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture] 

(must be received within 14 days from the Incident)

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement

29/08/2020
 

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

02/09/2020
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

3 Date received

04/09/2020
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

Y
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Looks like ref number has been doctored with black box background 
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

No
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

Haven’t appealed yet
 

7 Who is the parking company?

Euro Car Parks

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

The Arcadian, Birmingham
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

BPA
 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

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you do NOT appeal

 

can we have the NTK up please bothside to one PDF

read upload

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to ECP ANPR PCN - Arcadian Birmingham

please.

 

at SOME POINT

the registered keeper must write simply to give them their correct and current address.

else a backdoor CCJ might be tried simply because they can.

 

don't forget this also applies to ANY consumer credit debts either of you have that might or might not be on your credit files that you last used or paid in the last 7yrs.

don't forget DVLA too for driving licences and V5C's.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Many thanks, we’re both working through change of addresses. Our driving licences and V5C’s are at our new address. This one slipped through before DVLA has our new address.

So what’s the thoughts ref this NTK?

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  • dx100uk changed the title to ECP ANPR PCN - The Arcadian - Birmingham, Arcadian MCSP, 41 Bromsgrove Street, Birmingham, B5 6NU

need to see it can't

no rush.nothing they can do.

 

bottom line is update address

and NEVER ignore a letter of claim.

 

but you DO NOT appeal speculative invoices EVER.

 

only history we have is:

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi there, 

Just doing the letter to ECP. Content will be.

 

Dear Sir,

 

Ref xxx

 

I am writing with regard to the above NTK dated xx.

 

Please be advised that I have moved home recently, and this has caught up with me at my new address.

 

Anything else I need to add, especially as I've been advised not to appeal. What will I expect from this if i don't appeal and say nothing?

 

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just say please note my new address.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Generally, over a period of months, the PPCs send letters that are meant to be threatening, then get debt collection agencies to send more daft letters, pretending that the amount has somehow increased to try to scare you.  Then they sometimes use the trick of offering a "discount" again to con you into thinking you're getting a good deal.  This is all hot air from paper tigers and can all be safely ignored.

 

They may then give up, or they might try their luck with a Letter Before Claim which is a formal notice of intention to commence legal proceedings.  This is the point you need to jump into action and give them both barrels. 

 

What do the daft gets reckon you did wrong anyway?  Their NTK is so generic it's difficult to work out.

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Many thanks for this , just gives me something to go on.

My wife tends to give into these things.

 

As it happened, I am aware ‘the driver (not being disclosed) thought it was free parking, stayed for less than half hour. I was informed that there was nowhere to pay for parking - even if there were parking rates enforced.

 

 

35 minutes ago, dx100uk said:

just say please note my new address.

 

dx

Many thanks. I’ll get that in the post tomorrow, signed by my good lady of course seeing as she is the registered keeper.

Saying that, I’m thinking, maybe address the letter from me, stating this is the keepers new address.

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no do NOT sign it.

just type print her name

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The person they are pursuing will need to send the letter.

 

From your description, far from "managing" the car park ECP have created a total mess.

 

Is the place near you?  If so it would be a good idea to get photos of the rubbish signage and evidence that it's impossible to pay, just in case they do threaten legal action later on.  Always better to have too much documentation rather than too little.

We could do with some help from you.

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Fine, that saves you from a backdoor CCJ.  Relax & ignore ECP.

 

Any chance of getting the pictures of signage I mentioned in post 12?

We could do with some help from you.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to ECP ANPR PCN - The Arcadian MCSP, 41 Bromsgrove Street, Birmingham, B5 6NU

urm..not so sure legally under GDPR about them being able to collect images of 'users'.

thats not part of the allowed remit.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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There was only one photo of their T&Cs that I could see. There was nothing on it nor any other of the signs nor the payment meter that there were any charges for not complying with the signs. That means that you have no reason to pay their charge. if there are conflicting signs, you can elect to choose the most favourable one for yourself. 

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Definitely, and from experience of a different car park ran by the same cowboy operator - the signs were not clear from a drivers perspective on the main road.

 

interestingly enough, I won a previous appeal to this operation based solely on their inability to prove landowner authority.

 

Just to clarify, I do nothing else with this one now? Only asking as it’s a different course I have taken previously and I need to be confident I’m doing the right thing by not appealing.

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No, don't appeal.

 

PPCs never, ever, ever accept appeals - ever.

 

You'd just be flagging yourself up as someone who has faith in their crooked system.

We could do with some help from you.

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  • 2 months later...

Merry Christmas Eve everyone. Guess what arrived in the post this morning.....? This delight.

As predicted above, the 'discount period' has now passed and the cost has increased - with the threat of more costs being added. Just what my good lady wanted in the Christmas post.

 

Another group on social media suggests the use of a 'three letter process'. Having not seen this process on this site, is it something that anyone on here advises?

DRP171220.pdf

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The cost hasn't increased.  This is not Debt Recovery Plus's debt, they can't decide or do anything.

 

It's hot air from paper tigers who are trying to frighten people who don't know the law.

 

Laugh at the letter, ignore it, sit back, relax & enjoy your Christmas.

We could do with some help from you.

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three letter process!

freeman of the land twaddle..forget it totally

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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