Mutating Corona Virus

[honeybee13]

It does say something about him that he isn't in the MSM though. Same for the others that you quote.

 

ETA: This is from the article two years ago that is linked from the one you posted just now.

 

'It is this section of his paper that captured my attention and strikes me as especially good and pertinent. He reports on the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) now proved by treatment trials (which TCW alone in the British media has consistently reported on) and of ivermectin (IVM), both of which have been largely ignored or dismissed by medical opinion.'

[theoldrouge]

Censorship I’m afraid all must follow the narrative 
(though to me the Wall Street Journal is pretty mainstream )
 

Just look what Dr Malhotra had to do to get any discussion onto the BBC

Edited January 25, 2023 by theoldrouge

[honeybee13]

Who's censoring it? The Matrix, the Blob or someone else?

[honeybee13]

This has just come out about censorship.

 

UK placed in third tier in global index of free expression | Freedom of information | The Guardian

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Index on Censorship lists UK as only ‘partially' open’ in every key metric for the year 2021

 

[tobyjugg2]

17 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

You're the one linking right wing conspiracy sites and utterly nonsensical and unsupported/lied about lunatic 'theories.

 

No the million of GPS and doctors across the world aren't clueless, or part of a conspiracy.

Neither are the thousands and thousands of researchers and scientists.

Yes the right wing nutjob sites you promote are both clueless and/or lying to you

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

Censorship I’m afraid all must follow the narrative 

 

 

 

LOL

Like I said - nutjob claiming the whole world (except 23 nuts) is conspiring against them

 

 

 

13 hours ago, dx100uk said:

 

 

my neighbours wife has just spent 2 weeks in a mental health institution after believing all this trump is god related BS on youtube

 

 

Thought they got a seat in the GOP

- ah - only 2 weeks - clearly not a true believer

Edited January 25, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

On 23/01/2020 at 13:04, tobyjugg2 said:

The reality of course is that ANY risk from the vaccine is astonishingly small, and the benefits are astoundingly large.

 

In fact, I'm so convinced that if it were suggested by a reputable source that there was evidence that a fresh booster on top of the ordinary ones just could aid in improving immunity

... I'd be queuing up and suggesting all my loved ones  do the same.

 

 

Nothings changed in that regard since this was posted 3 years ago.

[theoldrouge]

Still not a word of sympathy for the victims 
Purely collateral damage, never to be spoken of. All antivax nut jobs eh
Along with leading specialists, scientists and  even the Wall Street Journal 

So how come the vaccine boosters have been dropped for the under 50s?
since it’s so wonderful 
Ah, a slight change in the narrative without any admission of guilt 
 

Got shares in Pfizer and Moderna have you?

[honeybee13]

According to this, younger people can still have booster vaccinations.

 

I don't understand why it's been dropped for under-50s in normal health.

 

How to get a booster dose of the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine - NHS

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Find out how to get a booster dose of the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine.

 

[tobyjugg2]

18 minutes ago, theoldrouge said:

Still not a word of sympathy for the victims 

 

Thats just another lie. and Simply reading my prior posts proves your lie. As I clearly stated, repeatedly, their deaths are tragic.

 

How about a word of sympathy from you for the far far far greater number of families of those who died of corona-virus  after listening to anti-vax misrepresentations and outright lies?

- Theres isnt even a whiff of that in your posts, Now is there?

Edited January 25, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

On 24/08/2022 at 21:31, brassnecked said:

 

 Now as I have a couple of allergies and a definite vaccine intolerance as in a flu jab nearly killed me in 2018, my GP advised against the Covid jab for me.  The Moderna has an ingredient I would have an immediate reaction to, and that's all they were offering where I am at the time.  Should I have had  the vaccination possibly died and took one for the "herd"?

 

 

 

No, you should have clarified the issues and had an appropriate jab if one was available, or not as you choose.

What is the ingredient(s)?

 

On 24/08/2022 at 22:14, unclebulgaria67 said:

I am not sure people are informed enough on medical choices.   I suffer from sciatica on occasions and was taking Ibrupofen. Doctors have previously recommended this.  I then suffered from high blood pressure and stopped taking the Ibrupofen and within 10 days my blood pressure was back to normal.

 

 

Issues with non-steroidal inflammatory medications is well known and  your GP (let alone multiple doctors) should be fully aware of that and how to address it.

Ibuprofen is a standard'ish approach and your GP should have detailed potential issues and alternatives

 

 

...

Just looking back over prior post and making some points I probably should have done at the time.

[tobyjugg2]

23 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

Censorship I’m afraid all must follow the narrative 

 

23 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Who's censoring it? The Matrix, the Blob or someone else?

 

So come on @theoldrouge tell us who it is thats 'censoring/controlling the narrative of EVERY government and more importantly and relevantly, the doctors, scientists, medical institutions, and researchers of such diverse and often inimical nations as

 

China, USA, Argentina, Brazil

Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Sweden, Norway

Israel, Egypt, Turkey. Kurds

Germany, France, Spain, Italy, UK  - well apart from anyone who can chuck a bung to a kleptocrat minister

Indonesia, New Zealand Australia

and as far as I am aware every single nation in the world ..

 

Who are the secret rulers of the World who have such power and control that they can make such powerful enemies lie down and lie in such unison together?

(well apart from the septic blog who can tell it all without simply vanishing off the face of the Earth)

Would that be - The Illuminati? The Grays? The Lizard Overlords? Cthulhu? The blob? Elon Musk? Magneto?

 

Edited January 26, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[theoldrouge]

Very interesting developing story
 

Why don't we just mutate it ourselves?': 'Director of research at Pfizer' reveals in undercover footage firm is exploring manipulating COVID to make it 'more potent' by infecting monkeys to create new vaccines
 

 

'You have to be very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create something that just goes everywhere,' he continued. 'Which, I suspect, is the way that the virus started in Wuhan, to be honest. It makes no sense that this virus popped out of nowhere. It's bulls--t.' 

Some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for,' he explained. 'Like with Delta and Omicron. And things like that. Who knows? Either way, it's going to be a cash cow. COVID is going to be a cash cow for us for a while going forward. Like obviously.'

 

https://archive.ph/jbawq

[theoldrouge]

On a very busy news day 
 

Andrew Bridgen Sues Matt Hancock for £100,000 Over Anti-Semitic Smear in Vaccine Row

Mr Bridgen, who lost the Conservative whip over comments he made about the vaccine this month, wants Mr. Hancock to pay damages to a legal fund for “people seeking collective redress for vaccine harms”.

 

 

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/26/andrew-bridgen-sues-matt-hancock-for-100000-over-anti-semitic-smear-in-vaccine-row/

[honeybee13]

Well the Bridgen court case will be interesting. £100,000 sounds quite cheap for libel, it that's what the suit is.

 

This may add to the debate, from George Monbiot.

 

We are all playing Covid roulette. Without clean air, the next infection could permanently disable you | George Monbiot | The Guardian

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As rich people plough money into ventilation to protect themselves, those with long Covid are treated as an embarrassment, says Guardian columnist...

 

 

[brassnecked]

Another £6BILLION of PPE and Covid tests down the drain: Critics slam £14.9bn of waste | Daily Mail Online

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It means the UK's Department of Health has now lost £14.9billion on over-priced, faulty or unused PPE, tests and drugs since the pandemic...

Meanwhile while the waste is mounting

 

[honeybee13]

That's awful, BN. Surely they could have been more careful with taxpayers' money?

 

It just sounds as if they were running around like headless chickens with no plan. I'm sure it's all going a lot better now.

 

[brassnecked]

They had a plan HB give contacts and loads of money to their cronies and buddies

 

[tobyjugg2]

and that story about mutated covid versions in rats is old news already debunked as presented by the anti-vax nuts

 

Meanwhile, back in the real world

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2023 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

PPE losses rise to £14.9 billion - Good Law Project

GOODLAWPROJECT.ORG

 

[unclebulgaria67]

£14.9 billion would be enough to settle public sector pay disputes ?

[honeybee13]

Exactly, UB. There's more to come on PPE as well, Jolyon Maugham's people are still digging up information about wasted money and profiteering cronies.

[theoldrouge]

First let’s have a look at Mr Monibot’s article 
Now being a good Guardianista both he and his offspring will be vaccinated to the hilt
Yet he caught COVID three times from school 
So the vaccine does not stop transmission 
The vaccine does not prevent you from catching the COVID

Now let’s turn to Jugg’s continuous use of the ridiculous phrase “anti vaxxer”
He used this phrase to describe Professor Dagleish
Yet in this article the Professor is actually writing in praise of vaccines
Just shows what an absurd phrase “anti vaxxer” is 
 

The Disastrous Covid Vaccines Risk Tarring All Vaccines With the Same Brush
 

“Ever since I raised the alarm that the boosters are preceding relapses of stable cancers and the occurrences of new B cell-based cancers such as lymphomas I have been contacted daily by doctors from far and wide who are seeing the same but not being listened to.

A short history of vaccines highlights the tremendous good that has been done for humanity with their development. However, the failure to monitor the Covid vaccine adverse effects and deaths risks undoing all that good work and tarring all vaccines with the same brush.”
 

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/26/the-disastrous-covid-vaccines-risk-tarring-all-vaccines-with-the-same-brush/
 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Of course, trolling the anti-vax trolls on the anti-vax troll sites soon gets your account disabled

- unlike anti-vax lies elsewhere

 

What was that the anti-vaxer bleated here about censorship ?

 

This Guy Creates Fake Accounts, Infiltrates Anti-Vaxxer Groups, And Trolls Them Hilariously | Bored Panda

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On the frontline against disinformation is professional troll Ben Palmer. He’s racing through the internet pretending to be an anti-vaxxer, only to pull the...

 

[theoldrouge]

Censorship there in plain sight for all to see (except for those who don’t want to)
 

“Years ago, we imagined that the internet would shatter the age of the gatekeeper. No longer would local censors or even editors be the guardians of what we could see and read and hear and say. But the sad reality is that new gatekeepers have emerged, and they’re more extreme and ruthless than the old. From Silicon Valley’s coordinated silencing of the elected president of the United States, to pre-Musk Twitter’s FBI-inspired blacklisting of right-wing hotheads and Covid wrongthinkers, to Facebook’s clampdown on Trump, vaccine scepticism and ‘climate misinformation’, the control of ideas has rarely been as intense as it is right now. That these Caesars of California can restrict the reading and viewing material of billions of human beings across the Earth is simply intolerable. How have we allowed this to happen?”
 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/26/the-caesars-of-the-information-age/

[honeybee13]

Interesting views from the chief political writer. Given tht Spiked evolved from Marxism Today, it's unclear why he's supporting Trump. No mention of inciting riots or discrediting a free and fair election.

 

Why pick on Silicon Valley when Trump has Truth Social? He isn't posting on Meta anyway, AFAIK.