Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Yeah I figured, unlikely I'll need credit anyway mortgage all paid off etc so I'll take that on the chin and learn from the experience. Probably would've beaten that too had I remembered the protocol, first time ever going through the process though sob it wasn't familiar to me  Oh well  
    • This is my slightly amended WS taking on board your previous comments, any suggestions for amendments would be most appreciated.  Thank you for you time.   1.        I am the Defendant in this matter. 2.        The facts in this statement come from my personal knowledge. 3.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 4.        The alleged Letter of Claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address. 5.        The Judgement debt was not familiar to me so I began investigations to ascertain what the debt related to and how such a figure had been equated in any event. 6.        I made immediate contact with the Court, the Claimant Solicitors and the Claimants thereafter, asking them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.  7.        I sent a Data Subject access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided – See appendix 1 which details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclaycard as well as copies of correspondence between us. 8.        I do not admit to entering an agreement with Barclaycard in 2000. 9.       The claimant has failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis and therefore this claim should be automatically struck out.  10.    The claimants have failed to disclose a true executed copy of the original agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim. They are not entitled to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 12.   The reconstituted standard Barclaycard agreement that the claimant has included in the court bundle does not satisfy any CCA request and so the claimant is and remains in default of my CCA request and therefore unable to enforce the alleged agreement. 13.  The claimants have failed to provide proof the assignment, such as a deed of assignment. 14.  The claimant has failed to provide a statement of account setting out how the alleged debt accrued under that agreement 15.   Despite numerous requests to the claimant, I have still not seen any evidence, such as an original agreement or deed of assignment, that substantiates the claimant’s assertion that I owe the debt to the claimant, nor evidence of how the debt was accrued. 16.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • A set aside application costs £275 which is more than the judgement so not worth it. Not that they would grant a set aside anyway.  Set asides are granted, for example, to people who moved and didn't get the court papers, so have a genuine reason for not defending.  Forgetting doesn't count. Your only choices are to pay up within 30 days, or defy the court and not pay.  If the latter, we've never seen a PPC enforce judgement for a single ticket, ever, you would get away without paying - but you would have a CCJ and a knackered credit file for six years.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Help needed Wording of Section 7 and 15(2) DPA


Guest Battleaxe
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 6324 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Guest Battleaxe

I am getting all the documentation prepared to file for non complaince of SAR. i am going to take them to court and it will cost £150.00 to file.

 

Has anyone done this before and if they have, how was the claim worded ?

 

I am going to do the same to Clydesdale Finance on the 27 November of the documentation hasn't arrived by Saturday.

 

Need the help of the quasi legal para's. I havn'e found anything in the template library

Link to post
Share on other sites

Rather than initially shelling out £150 without, by the sound of your request,

a huge percentage in your favour of winning, have you considered applying to the Information Commissioners Office to do the work for you?

A request for an Assessment to the ICO is where an individual believes they have been affected by any processing of personal data, may succeed without

the need for a time consuming trial.

As there is no cost using this avenue, and will also give you an idea of your

chances of winning a court case if the Assessment type approach fails,

what do you have to lose?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Battleaxe

Been there, done that, no help to date and I am not fooling with this lot. No this £150 has nothing to do with my first A & L claim. This is the credit card , we don't know how much in charges yet, because they have not handed the paper work over and are stalling. The IC has been given the details but no action, so I figure a short sharp kick from the court might just light the litmus paper under these shylocks. Today MBNA admitted that they made an administrative error in forwarding the requested paperwork and want me to back off and give them a chance, no way I am going to sink the boot in. The courts can award compensation for this breach. Some one has to make them accountable for their actions. This is no trial, this is a punitive action and the Court will demand that they hand the paperwork over.

 

All it takes is one of us to have a go this way and this will set a precedent for those in the future. MBNA have been stalling along, by sending back the £10 fee and saying they don't think we need the full SAR and then have the hide to say the will give £110.00 as goodwill and close the complaint. I sent a warning letter two weeks beofre the 40 day and still they stalled. I now have two letters from two Assistant Vice presidents.

 

By the time we are finished collecting the charges owed to us from various institutions it will amount to nearly £8000.00, so I consider £150.00 to blacken their eyes a drop in the bucket, especially as the court will award damages. I spoke to the Court this morning and have been told theJudge who sits in Huntingdon takes no prisoners as far as the banks are concerned.

 

A rough estimate of the MBNA charges are around £1500.00.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I am getting all the documentation prepared to file for non complaince of S.A.R - (Subject Access Request). i am going to take them to court and it will cost £150.00 to file.

 

Has anyone done this before and if they have, how was the claim worded ?

 

I am going to do the same to Clydesdale Finance on the 27 November of the documentation hasn't arrived by Saturday.

 

Need the help of the quasi legal para's. I havn'e found anything in the template library

 

Battleaxe, have a look in the Templates Library at alanfromderby's post (link below). It could be what you're looking for possibly.

 

Also, as alanfromderby poiints out, it's a Small Claims matter too.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/6971-data-protection-act-non.html

Jimbo 44 - always happy to help, but always willing to learn from being corrected too!!! Whilst any advice given may be based upon personal experience, please always be sure you seek guidance from a professional in the particular field.

 

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark, but a large group of professionals built the Titanic.

 

A 'click' on the scales is always appreciated if I have helped. Many Thanks!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Battleaxe

Thank you Jimbo44, I have also clicked the scales. When I spoke to the lady at the county court yesterday she didn't know what I was talking about, but a certain person did. He said remind the staff that it is Small Claims and N1.

 

I have found everyone at the local court so helpful. They know I have several more claims in the pipeline and they said I am the only person in this area who has started this type action. Looks like I am going to have to do another leaflet drop in the area.

The older I get, the crankier I get about injustice.

 

Soft hugs Jimbo

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Battleaxe

rosierose,

 

I am sure these are stalling tactics, hoping we will just go away. When i mentioned they were stalling, Yvonne says 'no we are not stalling, it was an administrative error'.

 

Make them work to your timetables and this keeps the pressure on them.

 

They don't like it that we have control.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
Guest Battleaxe

Hi Stansfield,

 

yes I filed and on Wednesday have gone for Judgement by Default for non-compliance, we are still waiting for our Credit Agreement and as they didn't get the documentation to us by the stipulated date I filed the next day.

 

The wording is as follows:

 

Brief details of Claim:

 

Order under Section 7 and Section 15 (2) of Data P rotection Act

 

Particulars of Claim

 

1. The Defendant is a Data Controller within the meaning of the of the Data protection Act and is responsible for the processing of the data which the Claimant is a Subject.

 

2. The Clainmant has an account number xxxxxxxxxx ("the account2) with the defendant which was opened on or around xxxxxxxx

 

3. On Date the Claimant sent a Subject Access request, pursuant to Section 7 of the Data Protection Act 1998 to the Defendant.

 

4. the Defendant failed to comply.

 

5.. By virtue of the defendant's failure to comply with the Subject Access Request the Claimant has suffered damage.

 

6. The damage caused is:

 

Extra costs incurred in addition to Court costs, due to the Defendant's failure to comply - this includes the cost of additional correspondence and the time spent preparing documents and seeking legal advice. i estimate this cost to be £439.75.

 

7. The Claimant seeks an order that the Defendant do comply with the Claimant;s Subject Access request.

 

8. Under terms of Section 15 (2) of the Data protoection Act 1998, where the Defendant contest the information requested under the Claimant's Subject Access request is not included in the scope of Section 7 of the Data Protection Act 1998, the Claimant requests that the Court inspects that information, and where it finds that the Defendant's opinion is unfounded, that it orders such information be included within the information supplied to the Claimant under the Subject Access Request.

 

9. Damages and costs within the discretion of the Court.

 

 

 

When I requested the Judgement the other day, I included the email from Information Commissioners Office regarding my complaint and also my request to MBNA for the Credit Agreement.

 

Funny thing: MBNA sent me back the £10.00 postal order for my second SAR regarding our loan, they only have until 11 January 2007, before I file in Court again for their second breach of non-compliance.

 

BTW I claimed £100 a day for research, £1.00 for every letter I posted recorded delivery, the £10.00 SAR, and £6.95 for every letter written.

I got stung £150.00 court fees, which I have since found out shouold have only been £35.00.

 

You have to tell the Court staff that this not a pre hearing disclosure. I think there is sticky somewhere regarding this, but I will have another look in file regarding this.

 

Perhaps it is on my thread Battleaxe does MBNA.

Link to post
Share on other sites

We had to pay £150 too and an extra £30 to claim our costs back upto £300 for letter writing etc. Total £180. My sister nearly had a panick attack! Why are they charging this when it should be £35? What is going on.

 

Please read my thread if you get chance. x

Link to post
Share on other sites

NB: Please note that some County Court staff may not be aware of the procedure for these claims. It is important that you insist that the N1 is accepted - and that your claim is NOT a "pre-action disclosure", or a claim under "part 8".

 

The Information Commissioner has indicated that these claims should be dealt with in the Small Claims track.

Its in the library template http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/6971-data-protection-act-non.html

Had to use it my case for non compliance too

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Battleaxe

I showed the Court staff this, but they insisted it was £150.00. When I file on the 12th the second non-compliance I am going to be mnore assertive and only put a filing fee of £35.00 on the claim and only have £35.00 in my hot fat hand, as well as whatever I can dig up regarding Court fees.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...