Nominal Refund

[romanytony]

Hi, this is my first post on this site and I would like to thank you all for help and guidance I have recieved. This is my history so far;-

 

9th October sent 2 x DPA letters to Barclays Bank

9th October sent 2 x DPA letters to Barclaycard (only got reply on one)

9th October sent 14 day letter to Barclays requesting £1180 refunded

14th October recieved letter from Barclaycard stating files on microfiche "not readily accessable" Asked for £3 per statement

17th Octboer recieved 2 x lots of statements from Barclays

24th October issued small claim against Barclays (£1180 increased to £1482.75)

24th October sent 14 day letter to Barclays for refund of £3535.00

 

 

I will keep you all posted, thank you.

[Rooster-UK]

Hi Tony,

 

Please start your own thread in the Barclays Bank forum and use that to post any questions and progress reports.

 

Good luck with your claim.

[romanytony]

Hi, this is my first post on this site and I would like to thank you all for help and guidance I have recieved. This is my history so far;-

 

9th October sent 2 x Data Protection Act letters to Barclays Bank

9th October sent 2 x Data Protection Act letters to Barclaycard (only got reply on one)

9th October sent 14 day letter to Barclays requesting £1180 refunded

14th October recieved letter from Barclaycard stating files on microfiche "not readily accessable" Asked for £3 per statement

17th Octboer recieved 2 x lots of statements from Barclays

24th October issued small claim against Barclays (£1180 increased to £1482.75)

24th October sent 14 day letter to Barclays for refund of £3535.00

 

 

I will keep you all posted, thank you.

[bearo]

Looks like everything is in hand, keep us updated.

[romanytony]

Ooops!! It appears I should have sent records of all charges along with the 14 day letters, this I didn't do. I have seen on other sites (penaltycharges.co.uk) that I should send copies of spreadsheets (dates & charges) to the bank and court to back up my claim, is this right?

[romanytony]

Back in 2007,

I took Barclays to court and won back all my fees.

 

However they were so long winded over finally caving in that some more fees were charged to my account.

 

I had started the process when the big 'hold' came into play.

 

After the banks finally winning their appeal,

 

I parted company with Barclays and moved to another bank.

the account has laid dormant all that time,

steadily increasing due to an O/D Protection fee coming out every month

and the interest added.

 

now I am going through all the statements and letters and about to write to them.

 

Ny qusetion is this,

 

Is an 'O/D' proection the same as a PPI?

 

It is now £24 per month but pror to about 2003 it was for £5.60 per month.

 

Can I go back to that and claim that as well?

 

Do I add interest of 8%.

[dx100uk]

yess to all you questions.

 

if you look at link I below

and the spreadsheet at the end

 

it should become clear.

 

dx

[romanytony]

Thank you so much for your help.

 

One other thing,

 

I am confused over this 'miss-selling' label,

 

I was never sold anything, it just appeared on my statements without any input from me,

 

I did query it in a phone conversation when I first noticed it and told them to take it off, that never happened.

 

I was also self employed which I understand this 'insurance' does not cover.

 

Also do you know if there's any update with bank charges or is that still hopeless?

Edited August 5, 2014 by romanytony

[dx100uk]

if you have a browse in this forum

 

you'll see there are successes with Barclays on PENALTY charges

 

the mis-selling, is the fact they didn't 'actually' sell it to you

they just added it without your permission.

 

so thus was 'missold' - they never consulted you.

 

slick132 will be around later I expect

 

and cross T & dot i's for you.

 

dx

[slick132]

Hi RT,

 

Are you getting demands from Barclays about this a/c.

 

Is it showing on your CRA reports.

 

[romanytony]

Not getting any demands, haven't for years, they tried to chase the OD once but I pointed out that they owed me more than I owed them and they stopped. All I get is the statement. I haven't used the account for years but they add OD Protection and interest every month, almost £50 per month.

Edited August 4, 2014 by romanytony

[gigs]

They're crooks plain and simple.

 

Hope you get back the charges and then some.

[romanytony]

They are crooks, and I think Barclays must be the worst.

 

On my old claim they kept telling me that I would not win,

their charges were fair,

and if I took it to court and lost they would claim legal fees from me.

 

Three days before the court date they phoned and offered (as a gesture of goodwill) full repayment of all charges, plus interest,

if I would agree to a confidentuallity clause. I refused,

 

told it was my money and would not accept any conditions and told them I would see them in court, then hung up.

 

I sweated for 15 minutes, I was playing poker with Barclays bank and the stake was over £6000!

 

They phoned back and agreed to everything, paid it straight back into my account and no clauses.

 

One other thing, which is ironic,

at the start of the proceedings Barclays bounced the cheque which I had made out to the Small Claims Court for their own summons!

 

It was a real shock when the High Court eventually came down in the banks favour over bank fees.

It had a nasty smell of someone being bought to me.

[slick132]

Hi RT,

 

You say no demands for years. Is this more than 6 years - if so the debt will be Statute Barred.

 

If you reclaim the OD Protection Fees plus simple 8% interest, would the reclaim amount exceed the present a/c balance ?

 

[romanytony]

The last letter I received from Barclays was June, 2008.

 

That was to inform me that my account was overdrawn.

 

Since then I have only received the monthly statements.

 

That would mean that it has just exceeded 6 years.

 

As far as I can see that is the last letter.

 

As for the fee's exceeding the overdraft, I have no idea yet,

If I can claim all the £5.60's as well as the £24.00 plus interest it may well exceed the balance.

 

A reply from dx100uk stated that a spreadsheet would be attached to his reply but I can't see it.

[romanytony]

Could someone give advice on these issues please.

 

I wrote to Barclays back in 2008 stating that the account was overdrawn

but that overdraft figure was in dispute due to their charges.

 

I asked them to freeze the account until the matter could be resolved.

 

Since that time they have continued to add £24 per month OD Protection plus interest.

 

I have found an undated 'Termination Letter' from them,

however in the body of the text it gives a date of 2011 as a termination date.

 

I have read in forums here that you can only go back six years to reclaim PPI, so my question is this.

 

If the PPI was 'miss sold' (in my case it was just added to the account without my consent or input)

why cant I claim for the whole of the period?

 

I need to establish from what date I can work from,

 

second question is what spreadsheet should I use?

 

There are four that you have provided,

the first is for a 'one payment' fee, so which one of the other three do I use?

[dx100uk]

there is no time limit on PPI reclaims.

 

you either use the statint sheet

 

or if they have charged you interest on the PPI payments

the CISheet.

 

you need to input each PPI payment on the date it happened

on an individual new row.

 

dx

[dx100uk]

as slick has advise

you use the statint sheet

 

dx

[romanytony]

Thank you!!!!

[slick132]

When you've done that, let us know how the reclaim value compares with the a/c balance.

 

From what you say re dates, the a/c could be Statute Barred already, or should become SB'd soon.

 

[romanytony]

Now I have another question!

I am starting to use your spreadsheet and gone back to my earlyist records of O/D Protection fees.

 

I have gone from 1999 to 2006, and so far the balance is over £2200.

 

I have still to bring this upto date, so the end figure will be considerably more than this.

 

My question is this,

 

in 2006 my actual overdraft was less than the claim refund amount,

 

but I am getting 'Paid Referral' fee's of £30.

 

which I would not have had if the bank had not charged me O/D Proection.

 

Can I claim these Paid Referral fee's back?

[romanytony]

OK, just completed my spreadsheet. PPI payments plus interest exceed £5200, more than my overdraft balance.

This figure does not include bank charges such as 'Paid Referrals' and interest on them.

Looking forward to your answer re these.

[gigs]

My question is this, in 2006 my actual overdraft was less than the claim refund amount, but I am getting 'Paid Referral' fee's of £30. which I would not have had if the bank had not charged me O/D Proection.

Can I claim these Paid Referral fee's back?

 

No, there is a six year cut-off before you can claim those overdraft and paid-referral fees unless "you allowed the charges to be taken by mistake." I don't know what that means. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?415783-Which-one-of-these-could-be-unfair&p=4507145#post4507145

 

ppi has no cut-off point iirc.

[romanytony]

Thanks gigs, I forgot about the 6 year cut-off.

 

So I cannot claim back bank fees that were added to my account over six years ago, right.

 

But the account was last used by me on the 18 Aug 2008,

six years ago,

and has not been used by me since then.

 

The balance at that date was £1600 O/D.

 

Does that 6 year cut-off apply to that amount?

 

Since 2008 the bank has added PPI and interest to the O/D balance, bringing the current balance to £4760.

 

My PPI claim comes to £5329.

 

My head hurts tryong to work it out!

[dx100uk]

post up your spread pkease

 

if the charges would not have been charged due to the PPI being taken off to that point [date]

 

then barclays should address them.

 

there is no timelimit on PPI

 

and Barclays do cough on charges outside 6yrs if a court claim is issued

 

dx