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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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more that they are seeing it as a GE vote issue they need to pretend to be noticing I'm quite sure

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Tories criminally and spitefully breaking the bank for their VIPals before they are evicted

Cant see any other reason

Labour should stand up now and say they will recharge this back at the Rat

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England and Wales had their respective warmest February's on record

according to provisional Met Office statistics in what was a mild and wet month for many

 

The average temperature in England for February 2024 was 7.5°C, topping the previous record of 7.0°C set in 1990. Wales saw an average mean temperature at 6.9°C for the month, marginally ahead of 1998’s record of 6.8°C. 

The UK (as a whole) experienced its second warmest February, averaging 6.3°C, but not surpassing February 1998’s figure of 6.8°C.

The UK’s 10 warmest Februarys on record  since 1884 now include 2024, 2023, 2022 and 2019. 

 

It was also a wetter than average month, with the south of England experiencing its wettest February since the series began in 1836. Many parts of southern England recorded well over twice the average rainfall.  

 

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Why?

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perhaps explains the ongoing failure to implement the plastic recycling scheme  - pals profits first eh?:

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and Thames Water has discharged raw sewage into the River Mole and its tributaries for more than 4,700 hours in the first two months of this year, according to campaigners.

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Record breaking temperatures ..

Yet we are currently at the solar minimum of a long stretch of solar minimums - fact

We should be experiencing abnormally cold weather - yet records on temperatures are being broken - and we are at the cold part of an extended cold cycle

We should be skating on canals and rivers but instead tehre are record breaking temperatures across the world.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/06/19/sun-entering-deep-solar-minimum-may-be-the-weakest-cycle-in-200-years/

 

Sun entering ‘deep solar minimum’ – ‘May be the weakest cycle in 200 years’

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Daily observations of the number of sunspots since 1 January 1977 according to Solar Influences Data Analysis Center (SIDC). The thin blue line indicates the daily sunspot number, while the dark blue line indicates the running annual average. The recent low sunspot activity is clearly reflected in the recent low values for the total solar irradiance . Compare also with the geomagnetic Ap-index . Data source: WDC-SILSO, Royal Observatory of Belgium, Brussels . Last day shown: 31 May 2019. Last diagram update: 1 June 2019 . [Courtesy climate4you.com ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NASA – Next Solar Cycle will be Weakest in 200 Years

 

September 5, 2019 by Robert at Ice Age Now

NASA dropped this bombshell announcement in a little-heralded news release coyly entitled “Solar Activity Forecast for Next Decade Favorable for Exploration.” In other words, NASA tried to make it sound like good news.

In the release, dated 12 June 2019, NASA described the upcoming decline in solar activity as a window of opportunity for space exploration instead of acknowledging the disastrous consequences such a decline could wreak on civilization.

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The Sun’s activity rises and falls in an 11-year cycle. The forecast for the next solar cycle says it will be the weakest of the last 200 years. (Emphasis added) The maximum of this next cycle – measured in terms of sunspot number, a standard measure of solar activity level – could be 30 to 50% lower than the most recent one. The results show that the next cycle will start in 2020 and reach its maximum in 2025.

Sunspots are regions on the Sun with magnetic fields thousands of times stronger than the Earth’s. Fewer of them at the point of maximum solar activity means fewer dangerous blasts of radiation.

The new research was led by Irina Kitiashvili, a researcher with the Bay Area Environmental Research Institute at NASA’s Ames Research Center, in California’s Silicon Valley. It combined observations from two NASA space missions – the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory and the Solar Dynamics Observatory – with data collected since 1976 from the ground-based National Solar Observatory.

In admitting that solar activity during sunspot-cycle 25 could be the weakest in 200 years, NASA was effectively forecasting a return to Dalton Minimum (1790-1830) conditions. But the release gives no mention of the ferocious cold, no mention of the disastrous crop losses, no mention of the ensuing starvation and famine, no mention of the wars over food, no mention of the powerful earthquakes, no mention of the catastrophic volcanic eruptions during the Dalton Minimum.

NASA Paper is HERE

Some people consider the low solar activity a trigger for other catastrophic events such as the 1811-1812 New Madrid Fault Earth Quakes and 1815 eruption of Mount Tamboura.  As you can see from this chart global cooling produced some strong eruption.

Volcanic activity

 
 

https://nextgrandminimum.com/2019/09/08/nasa-next-solar-cycle-will-be-weakest-in-200-years/

 

 

On 05/01/2020 at 21:19, tobyjugg2 said:

Now some of you may recall I said that there are going to be accelerated effects going into the current solar maximum expected to be around 2023.

I'm sticking to that despite the latest NASA projections saying that the upcoming solar maximum is going to be as low or perhaps even lower energetically than the last one - which was already low - with only around half the expected high energy sunspots.

God help us if the Sun flips back to its 1950 levels rather than its existing exceptionally low levels, and really does add to the global warming - enhanced by the greenhouse effects of the current levels of Co2, Nox, methane and water vapour.

A little reminder from 4 years ago here ..

Possible the peak likely occurred 04-09 2033 rather than the generally projected 2025 despite current levels being massively above expected - lets hope so.

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More on the effects of the wandering jet stream and massive dumps of the arctic cold into our latitudes

The arctic is warming at many times that of the rest of the world

These events will become FAR more common

 

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This seems like a no-brainer. If you don't have bees the crops don't get pollinated.

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More sewage from the poop companies enabled by the poopulists - and in these cases not just the extreemist poop-cons

 

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Over the last month, it’s been whack-a-mole time as alarmists pop no less than three poster scares of climate collapse back into the mainstream headlines. The Guardian dusted down the old ‘scientists say’ favourite that there will be ice-free summers in the Arctic “possibly” within the next decade; billionaire foundation-rewarded BBC activist Matt McGrath gave us the ever-popular “Climate change: Polar bears face starvation threat as ice melts” story, while Peter Hess for the Daily Mail and Reuters filed a pack of nonsense reporting that the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) was in grave danger of disappearing due to the Earth being on the “cusp of the worst bleaching event in history”. All very confusing given that Arctic sea ice has been recovering for over a decade
 

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No - so says the Guardian quoting NASA ... and 97%+ of all climate scientists (or scientists in related fields)

compared to barmy bridgen and his 0.97% but noisy supporters - who seem to treat climate science denial as  a faith to be held on to based on nothing more than rhetoric that flies in the face of reality from people paid to promote nonsense

 

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February was the ninth month in a row to set a global heat record, with global average temperatures 1.77°C above the pre-industrial average...

Europe saw particularly anomalous heat in February, with average temperatures rising 3.3°C above the monthly average for (even just) 1991 to 2020.

High temperatures and dry weather also drove fires in North and South America, including the deadliest wildfire in Chile’s history

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British Antarctic Survey researchers have found that the rate at which ice is melting and contributing to sea level rise will accelerate in the next century...

Its just how quickly, and how much the sea level will rise is at question.

Look at worst case scenarios for a real world median - which may well end up being conservative.

 

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...and four that offer hope.

 

 

On 21/12/2023 at 14:47, tobyjugg2 said:

Perhaps drill and capture it - before the ice melts - rather than giving licenses to drill in the North Sea for 2 weeks worth of gas?

 

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On 10/01/2024 at 20:13, tobyjugg2 said:

Absolutely misleading (as lying ***** wouldn't be allowed)

Ignore the 'science sceptic 'blog and take heed to the REAL science

 

NASA

""Summer ice extent in and around the Arctic Ocean has declined significantly since satellites began measuring it consistently in 1978. The past 16 years (2007 to 2022) have been the lowest 16 minimum extents, with 2022 tying 2017 and 2018 for 10th-lowest in 44 years of observations."

 

and Nature:

Abstract of Abstract

 Here we show that the Arctic sea ice regime shifted in 2007 from thicker and deformed to thinner and more uniform ice cover. Continuous sea ice monitoring in the Fram Strait over the last three decades revealed the shift. After the shift, the fraction of thick and deformed ice dropped by half and has not recovered to date.

The timing of the shift was preceded by a two-step reduction in residence time of sea ice in the Arctic Basin, initiated first in 2005 and followed by 2007. We demonstrate that a simple model describing the stochastic process of dynamic sea ice thickening explains the observed ice thickness changes as a result of the reduced residence time. Our study highlights the long-lasting impact of climate change on the Arctic sea ice through reduced residence time and its connection to the coupled ocean–sea ice processes in the adjacent marginal seas and shelves of the Arctic Ocean.

 

and Scientific American report (among many many other REPUTABLE sources)

"The year 2023 shattered the record for the warmest summer in the Arctic, and people and ecosystems across the region felt the impact.

Wildfires forced evacuations across Canada. Greenland was so warm that a research station at the ice sheet summit recorded melting in late June, only its fifth melting event on record. Sea surface temperatures in the Barents, Kara, Laptev and Beaufort seas were 9 to 12 degrees Fahrenheit (5 to 7 degrees Celsius) above normal in August."

 

 

 

 

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A simple model describes the stochastic process of dynamic sea ice thickening, shows how reduced residence time affects changes in ice...

 

 

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According to satellite observations, Arctic sea ice reached its annual minimum extent on Sept. 18, 2022. The ice cover shrank to an area of 4.67...

 

Thickness/actual quantity of ice has shrunk dramatically (thinner ice and shorter periods of thickening) - which will likely lead to a VERY short final collapse period

"Summer ice extent in and around the Arctic Ocean has declined significantly since satellites began measuring it consistently in 1978. The past 16 years (2007 to 2022) have been the lowest 16 minimum extents, with 2022 tying 2017 and 2018 for 10th-lowest in 44 years of observations."

 

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So the amount of Ice IS shrinking - and significantly

 

On 17/01/2024 at 20:20, honeybee13 said:

This is scary.

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Total is 20% higher than thought and may have implications for collapse of globally important north Atlantic ocean currents

 

 

On 20/01/2024 at 17:40, honeybee13 said:

Here's an interesting time lapse film from NASA on sea ice. It talks about an overall decline, as I read it.

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Arch brexiter Bamfords'JCB and a firm called Ryze Hydrogen would then distribute it in the UK.

Lord Anthony Bamford, chairman of JCB, said the deal would help to make green hydrogen a viable solution, telling the BBC it was "the right thing to do".

"Lord Bamford's son and entrepreneur Jo Bamford also owns Wrightbus, which built the world's first hydrogen double decker"

 

For what little its worth - arch Trussite fwee trade chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng has also said "low carbon hydrogen has a critical role to play in the UK's transition to net zero" "its production, and use, would have to rapidly increase for the government's ambitions to be achieved"

 

 

 

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Temperatures too high even for fake snow

 

 

On 09/02/2024 at 10:01, tobyjugg2 said:

 

So, @theoldrouge

In what real world is 20-25% LESS ice growth in the ice's main growth period

compared to the 30 year average 1981 to 2010

let alone compared to the last century's average ice coverage

anything other than 'collapse of ice sheets?

 

 

Reality (in the ice packs main growth season)

The year 2024 began with an average January Arctic sea ice extent of 13.92 million square kilometers (5.37 million square miles), the twentieth lowest in the 45-year satellite record (Figure 1a).

During the month, extent increased by 1.09 million square kilometers (421,000 square miles), which was (20-25%) slower than the 1981 to 2010 average increase of 1.33 million square kilometers (514,000 square miles) (Figure 1b).

Extent actually declined for a few days at the end of the month. (in ice growth season)

- and that isnt

even comparing it to the much higher pre-industrial average

 

- national snow and ice data center

 

Nothing Swift about January’s Arctic sea ice

 

and compare @theoldrougeseptic bog to the real skeptic blog

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Dr. Tapio Schneider discusses the science behind human-induced climate change. He is a climate scientist and Professor of Environmental Science...

 

 

On 12/02/2024 at 17:50, tobyjugg2 said:

?

 

So, @theoldrouge

In what real world is 20-25% LESS ice growth in the ice's main growth period

compared to the 30 year average 1981 to 2010

let alone compared to the last century's average ice coverage

anything other than 'collapse of ice sheets?

 

So, @theoldrouge, yet again

In what real world is 20-25% LESS ice growth in the ice's main growth period

compared to the 30 year average 1981 to 2010

let alone compared to the last century's average ice coverage

anything other than 'collapse of ice sheets?

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perhaps this goes some way to answer your question HB?

Operation Timber

 

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Exclusive: Sarah Olney to press in parliament for details of scheme being drawn up in event of supplier’s collapse

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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and of course this where they appear t have lied about how much their debt costs not 3p in the £ - but 28p in the £

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

Britain’s biggest water company said just 3p in every pound that appeared on bills went to its lenders

and lets be clear, labour are just as much to blame as the Tories

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

 “Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?”

Farage, Feb 2024 talking smack about the Peninsula town

.. before he decided he wanted their votes

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