Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • The property was our family home.  A fixed low rate btl/ development loan was given (last century!). It was derelict. Did it up/ was rented out for a while.  Then moved in/out over the years (mostly around school)  It was a mix of rental and family home. The ad-hoc rents covered the loan amply.  Nowadays  banks don't allow such a mix.  (I have written this before.) Problems started when the lease was extended and needed to re-mortgage to cover the expense.  Wanted another btl.  Got a tenant in situ. Was located elsewhere (work). A broker found a btl lender, they reneged.  Broker didn't find another btl loan.  The tenant was paying enough to cover the proposed annual btl mortgage in 4 months. The broker gave up trying to find another.  I ended up on a bridge and this disastrous path.  (I have raised previous issues about the broker) Not sure what you mean by 'split'.  The property was always leasehold with a separate freeholder  The freeholder eventually sold the fh to another entity by private agreement (the trust) but it's always been separate.  That's quite normal.  One can't merge titles - unless lease runs out/ is forfeited and new one is not created/ granted.
    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
    • Weaknesses in some banks' security measures for online and mobile banking could leave customers more exposed to scammers, new data from Which? reveals.View the full article
    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Welcome secured loans/charge - sold to Alpha/Prime -repo received - ***Claim Dismissed***


cruzhughes
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 1695 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

you sent a letter of complaint about the whole thing dated?

 

 

refer to that letter, even inc it then state about the bogus court date

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 1.7k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

add to the end.

 

I also bring to your attention my letter of march

whereby I outlined my full complaint to you.

 

the whole debt and the resultant charge is entirely bla bla bla

 

put the pressure back on them

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Great thanks I'm on it

 

Do you think I should add something along the lines of I believe all the above is why this debt got passed to you the minute I put the original irresponsible lending and penalty claim to welcome in sept 2016 and it was sold to you immediately.

Link to post
Share on other sites

sold to you no passed.

drop the hot potateo quick

I wonder if that other person here is on that list of 38 others?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Do you think it's good to go? I need to add sold.

 

But what about this as I think it may be too much info.

 

The charge you hold refers to a debt dated 19/10/2006 for £8019.62 which had £1485.75 PPIicon £175 personal accident plan and £3339.03 Intrest added. I have paid over and above this figure.

Link to post
Share on other sites

wouldn't bother save that for court if itever goes back there.

again proves they aint got a clue about wha they've purchased

just hoped that you'd be like the other 38 mugs and blindly pay.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

your addition

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok was a bit confused then. As long as you think the doc i emailed is up to scratch it will be going off tomorrow. Another letter which I'm not banking on a reply to though... lol

 

Has Ell enn been on here

Link to post
Share on other sites

just not the addition you posted here

get on with it..

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Here it is final one. Is it ok?

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

Thank you for your letter dated 21/07/2017 the contents of which have once again been noted.

 

The statement you have provided is still incorrect as you have not removed all the said fees. You have also have 2 credits on there a cheque receipt for £1.00 on 13/03/2017 and another for £9.00 on the 17/05/2017. This payment totalling £10.00 was for a Subject Access Request and not to be credited to the account.

 

I would like to remind you that you are in default of providing this the 40 days were up on the 24/6/2017.

 

On 30/05/2017 you wrote to telling me you wanted to close the matter as you could not trace receipt of the requested information. However you had cashed the cheque enclosed with my letter above 13 days prior. A second request for this information was then made in letter dated 02/06/2017.

 

You are still in default of providing me with this Subject Access Request.

 

I would like to bring to your attention the last paragraph in the said letter about you instructing solicitors on 11/07/2017 and for me to disregard this action as it was carried out in error. So can you please explain how I have received a letter from the courts stating this hearing has been restored to 21/08/2017.

 

Further to this Lightfoots Solicitors have sent a letter to the owner occupier of my old address on the 26/07/2017 giving notice of possession proceedings 5 days after your letter to me.

 

The District Judge stated in the previous hearing the whole thing needs to be reviewed which I don’t think you have carried out.

 

I would also like to bring to your attention that in every correspondence you have received from me since March 2017 requesting information. Your responses has either been unsatisfactory or you have totally failed to provide any evidence of anything I have requested from you. Every letter I have sent to you a member of your staff has signed for. I have electronic proof of each delivery showing signatures and the dates. These consist of

 

• 08/03/2017 - CCA Request

• 25/03/2017 – Account in Serious Dispute Letter

• 29/03/2017 - 2nd CCA Request

• 24/04/2017 - 2nd Request for Account information

• 15/05/2017 - 3rd Request for Account information and 1st Subject Access Request

• 02/06/2017 – 2nd Subject Access Request and response to your letter dated 30/05/2017

 

You have failed to provide me with any evidence from the list above. Further to that there has been no Notice Of Assignment or even a Credit Agreement for the debt in question. Yet you have still accepted a payment for £8,163.29 due to previous complaints of miss selling of PPI on loans owned by Welcome Finance.

 

I am requesting you remove the charge and write the bogus debt off. My evidence has been clearly submitted many times. I also bring to your attention my letter off 25/03/2017 whereby I outlined my full complaint to you in regard to the whole debt and the resultant charge being entirely made up of numerous penalty charges for all manner of indiscretions and other insurances and Mass Irresponsible Lending, forcing the roll over of loans without doing the required affordability checks. Some only months apart.

 

Again if all these and their interest were taken into account this even further exceeds the sum outstanding

 

The account was already in serious dispute with Welcome Finance. This debt got sold to you in Sept 2016 which was almost immediately after I put the Irresponsible Lending and Penalty Claim to them. At no point could they substantiate the amount they said I owed to them for 6 months prior to this. If they were able to prove this don’t you think they would have pursued it not sold it to you?

 

Once again I request you remove the charge from my property and null any balances as you are totally unable to provide any documents proving the sum outstanding or how you could hold a 2006 deed of variation for a legal charge on my property for a loan that supposedly started in 2 years later in 2008.

 

I thank you for your time look forward to hearing from you within 14 days.

 

 

Regards

Link to post
Share on other sites

per I don't think they have scoobies how UK laws or credit really works in the UK

 

 

that they've been able to get away with this for so long

its like 2nd nature to them

we can throw out whatever threats we like and 99% of the mugs we have on our UK books cough up whatever we write

 

 

the case is subject to suspended court case

which they've failed to comply to the judges orders yet

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

i would suggest its simply lettereheads in the same printer

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

In your opinion do you think they will go to court???

 

 

Cos surely from everything I put in that letter if a judge was to take a look at that.

 

 

It's got to be bad for them?

 

 

How on earth can they justify the lack of correspondence?

Link to post
Share on other sites

wont go anywhere near one.

I really do think they've not an idea on what they should be doing or should not be doing.

 

 

its a forign owner being guided by fools in the UK that simply want to earn money out of people that don't knowhow the UK legal/debt system works.

 

 

IMHO alpha/prime have been conned here into the mass welcome debt sale that they were told was worth £1M's.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Do you mean they won't turn up but the hearing is still on and I go?

 

Where does that leave me and the other 38?!!!

 

I wonder if they are even fighting?

 

Something's got to give soon. It isn't going to be me.

Link to post
Share on other sites

until you are told by the court that you don't need to attend as the case has been dismissed you go.

 

 

you simply refer to the last court case and what the judge ordered

and that that has not be complied with

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...