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    • Morning, I purchased a car from Big Motoring World on 10th December 2023 for £14899.00. On the 15th December I had a problem with the auto start stop function of the car in which the car would stop in the middle of the road with a stop start error message. I called the big assist and the car was booked in for February. The BMW was with them for a week and it came back with the auto stop start feature all fine and all error codes cleared on the report from big motoring world. within 5 days I had the same issue. Warning light coming on and the car stopping. I called big assist again and the car was again booked in for an other repair in May. Car was taken back in may, they had the car for a week and returned with the report saying no issue with the auto stop start feature and blamed my driving. Within 5 days of having the car back it broke down again. This time undrivable. I had the rac pick my car up and take to Stephen James BMW for a full diagnostic. The diagnostic came back with the car needing a new fuel system as magnetic swarf was found.  I have sent big motoring world a letter stating all the issues and that under the consumer rights act 2015 I have asked for a replacement vehicle. all reports from Stephen James BMW have been sent over to big motoring world. Big motoring world have come back and said they will respond to my complaint within 14 days for the date of my complaint letter. I am not feeling confident on the response from them, what are my next steps?   Thanks in advance. 
    • That is really good is that a mistake last off "driver doesn't have a licence" I assume that should be keeper? The Court requested me to send the Court and applicant proof of my sons disability from their GP this clearly shows he has Severe Mental Impairement, he is also illiterate.  I naively assumed once the applicant received this that they would drop the claim.  It offends me that Bank has asked the Judge to throw the case out at the preliminary hearing and to make us pay up.
    • Hi, we are looking to get some opinions on weather or not to bother fighting this PCN. This comes from a very big retail park parking where there are restaurants, hotel, amongst other businesses. The parking is free but I suppose there must be a time limit on it that I am not aware of. We were in the area for around 4 hours. Makes us wonder how they deal with people staying in the hotel as the ANPR is on what appears to be a publicly maintained street (where london buses run) which leads to the different parking areas including the hotel.  1 Date of the infringement 26/05/2024 2 Date on the NTK  31/05/2024 3 Date received 07/06/2024 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]  YES 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Entry and exit photos however, based on the photographs we are almost sure the photos are taken on public street. This is the location I believe photos are taken from.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/eii8zSmFFhVZDRpbA 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A 7 Who is the parking company? UKPA. UK Parking Administration LTD 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] The Colonnades, Croydon, CR0 4RQ For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. British Parking Association (BPA) Thanks in advance for any assistance.  UKPA PCN The Collonades-redacted.pdf
    • Thank you for posting their WS. If we start with the actual WS made by the director one would have doubts that they had even read PoFA let alone understood it. Point 10  we only have the word of the director that the contract has been extended. I should have had the corroboration of the Client. Point 12 The Judge HHJ Simkiss was not the usual Judge on motoring cases and his decisions on the necessity of contracts did not align with PoFA. In Schedule 4 [1[ it is quite clearly spelt out- “relevant contract” means a contract (including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land) between the driver and a person who is—(a)the owner or occupier of the land; or (b authorised, under or  by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land; And the laughable piece of paper from the land owners cannot be described as a contract. I respectfully ask that the case be dismissed as there is no contract. WE do not even know what the parking regulations are which is really basic. It is respectfully asked that without a valid contract the case cannot continue. One would imagine that were there a valid contract it would have been produced.  So the contract that Bank has with the motorist must come from the landowner. Bank on their own cannot impose their own contract. How could a director of a parking company sign a Statement of Truth which included Point 11. Point 14. There is no offer of a contract at the entrance to the car park. Doubtful if it is even an offer to treat. The entrance sign sign does not comply with the IPC Code of Conduct nor is there any indication that ANPR cameras are in force. A major fault and breach of GDPR. Despite the lack of being offered a contract at the entrance [and how anyone could see what was offered by way of a contract in the car park is impossible owing to none of the signs in the WS being at all legible] payment was made for the car to park. A young person in the car made the payment. But before they did that, they helped an elderly lady to make her payment as she was having difficulty. After arranging payment for the lady the young lad made his payment right behind. Unfortunately he entered the old lady's number again rather than paying .for the car he was in. This can be confirmed by looking at the Allow List print out on page 25. The defendant's car arrived at 12.49 and at 12.51 and 12.52  there are two payments for the same vrm. This was also remarked on by the IPC adjudicator when the PCN was appealed.  So it is quite disgraceful that Bank have continued to pursue the Defendant knowing that it was a question of  entering the wrong vrm.  Point 21 The Defendant is not obliged to name the driver, they are only invited to do so under S9[2][e]. Also it is unreasonable to assume that the keeper is the driver. The Courts do not do that for good reason. The keeper in this case does not have a driving licence. Point 22. The Defendant DID make a further appeal which though it was also turned down their reply was very telling and should have led to the charge being dropped were the company not greedy and willing to pursue the Defendant regardless of the evidence they had in their own hands. Point 23 [111] it's a bit rich asking the Defendant to act justly and at proportionate cost while acting completely unjustly themselves and then adding an unlawful 70% on to the invoice. This  is despite PoFA S4[5] (5)The maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper by virtue of the right conferred by this paragraph is the amount specified in the notice to keeper under paragraph 9[2][d].  Point 23 [1v] the Director can deny all he wants but the PCN does not comply with PoFA. S9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN only quotes the ANPR arrival and departure times which obviously includes a fair amount of driving between the two cameras. Plus the driver and passengers are a mixture of disabled and aged persons who require more time than just a young fit single driver to exit the car and later re enter. So the ANPR times cannot be the same as the required parking period as stipulated in the ACT. Moreover in S9[2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; You will note that in the PCN the words in parentheses are not included but at the start of Section 9 the word "must" is included. As there are two faults in the PCN it follows that Bank cannot pursue the keeper . And as the driver does not have a driving licence their case must fail on that alone. And that is not even taking into consideration that the payment was made. Point 23 [v] your company is wrong a payment was made. very difficult to prove a cash payment two weeks later when the PCN arrives. However the evidence was in your print out for anyone to see had they actually done due diligence prior to writing to the DVLA. Indeed as the Defendant had paid there was no reasonable cause to have applied for the keeper details. Point 24 the Defendant did not breach the contract. The PCN claimed the Defendant failed to make a payment when they had made a payment.   I haven't finished yet but that is something to start with
    • You don't appeal to anyone. You haven't' received a demand from a statutory body like the council, the police or the courts. It's just a dodgy cowboy company trying it on. You simply don't pay.  In the vast majority of these cases the company deforest the Amazon with threats about how they are going to divert a drone from Ukraine and make it land on your home - but in the end they do nothing.
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Had an issue over a water bill for some time which has resulted in non payment.

Due to my somewhat poor state of health I've not had the energy to deal with things as well as I could do.

So I've done the worst thing possible and ignored it until today.

 

Searchlight Collections attended my property this afternoon. I was not at home at the time.

The agent spoke to someone who came to my property to collect some belongings, they do not live here.

They are a completely different gender to me also.

 

From what I've been told the doorstepper had the cheek to ask for me

and state that I owed money for a water bill and to make contact with them.

 

They left a menacing looking card with a box ticked next to "An application for a bailiff or HCEO to seize possessions" ...

I have nothing of value,

I don't drive on medical grounds so really that course of action is not going to end well for anyone.

They are also lacking a defaulted CCJ against me so I don't see how they could even do this without one!

 

They handed this over to the girl at the property and left.

They did not enter the property at any point.

 

I received a phonecall from the lady in question

and said that if he'd not gone to politely tell them that I was busy and not to be disturbed.

 

Needless to say I'm rather angry that this clown has breached the DPA in this manner.

Therefore I want to follow that up.

I've no interest in discussing the account with Searchlight.

I'd be happy to speak to water company directly however and get the billing issue resolved.

 

How should I proceed in this?

I don't want any compensation as such.

 

 

However I do want to raise the pulse-rates for them a little bit.

Thinking a letter asking them what they were doing and copy of their complaints procedure?

Then threaten the ICO but actually raise the matter with them anyway?

 

Tyia

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Searchlight collections IS Bristol Wessex Billing Services Ltd.

 

So your complaint will go to them, can you scan and post up a redacted copy of that card they left?

 

Lodge an immediate formal complaint http://www.bristolwater.co.uk/faq/what-is-your-complaints-procedure/

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Thanks for that, yes I agree, research shows they're BWBS Ltd. Here is the card they left.

 

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I'll make a formal complaint tomorrow lunchtime. Anything particular I should add to the complaint?

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someone has ticked the wrong box obv.

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The code of practice at that link gives me a 500 - Internal Server Error. That just the awful bus WiFi or should I phone them tomorrow and ask for a copy via email?

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How far in arrears are you with the account ?

 

Have you notified them of your situation ? Water companies should have a team that deal with accounts where people are struggling to pay due to health and/or financial position. There should be a telephone number on your bills to contact.

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Around 2 years.

 

I had notified them of my position both medically and financially.

 

I was told to expect a pack to be sent out to complete and return to them.

 

The pack never arrived.

 

Contacted them again numerous times and this pack just wasnt materialising.

 

Needless to say I got tired and felt ignored so I started ignoring them.

 

With hindsight that was an unwise decision I agree.

 

I'd be happy for them to deduct from my benefits, I've no issue with that there.

But the DPA issue has really got my back up.

 

Should also point out that they've threatened to take me to court on numerous occasions over that period and never done so.

 

So should I be adding that to the complaint also?

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to be honest

i'd deal with the debt

and worry about the DPA stuff another day.

 

being in dispute is not a reason to withhold 'some' sort of payment.

 

though ofcourse your health issues may have compounded this..

but its no excuse.

 

what do you owe?

how far does it go back?

 

I wouldn't gamble on them ignoring court for ever

tell us the full story

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I moved out of a property in April 2014 which I was sharing with another.

They advised me when we moved in there in 2013 that they would be taking over the water bill.

However this was never the case.

 

 

When I moved into a new property on my own, wessex water wanted to transfer the arrears across even though I was advised it would be taken care of.

 

I disputed liability for that debt and explained that I would only be willing to pay half of the amount charged

and they would need to pursue the other tenant for the remaining half.

Although met with resistance this was agreed upon.

This is where I was sent a pack to fill out.

That never turned up.

 

I chased it up a few times and was told they had sent one so would be sending another.

This brought us to the time where I was hospitalised due to requiring significant surgery

from which to present day I have never fully recovered,

has left me with several permanent complications and general bitterness.

 

My medical conditions also causes me to use copious amounts of water due to using the toilet alot.

I don't have the exact amount owed to hand right now, sat on a train at the moment.

 

I'm also not looking to avoid or offer excuses as to what happened.

It is something I want to resolve.

I have no issue paying what I owe.

 

 

I've also discovered at a youth center I volunteer at there are several of the packs from Wessex Water

so I am tempted to collect one tomorrow and fill it out, send off recorded delivery with a token payment.

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no that's good thanks for the background.

 

 

i think they are taking you for a ride then.

if there was a dispute that they may never have even supplied the water

then i'd let it run.

 

 

as further background

if they never did supply it..who did?

and was any water bill paid to anyone

if any was ever owed?

 

 

was it a rental and wre you responsible for the water or was the LL?

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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as further background

if they never did supply it..who did?

 

They are the supplier for the property I lived in from 2013 - 2014. However there were discrepancies with the meter as the property was a new build but was the showhome, so the account was held by the builders for a while. They wanted to transfer these arrears over to my account at my new property I've lived at since 2014

 

and was any water bill paid to anyone

if any was ever owed?

 

Co tenant was 'supposed' to be taking care of the bill but never did. They moved out before the tenancy ended which is when I discovered they never paid any of the bill at all

 

was it a rental and wre you responsible for the water or was the LL?

 

Rental, joint tenancy agreement. Tenants responsible. I paid gas + electric. They paid water and council tax but never did on both counts.........

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They are the supplier for the property I lived in from 2013 - 2014. However there were discrepancies with the meter as the property was a new build but was the showhome, so the account was held by the builders for a while. They wanted to transfer these arrears over to my account at my new property I've lived at since 2014

 

 

 

 

good on you..not on IMHO, if you owe anything it can only be a small amount for one year or less and certainly not the usage as a showhome.

was it a metered property or yearly thing.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Metered property

 

I believe you are only responsible for the water usage at a property while you lived there. So it a case of evidencing when you lived there and the usage level during that period. If there were not regular meter readings, it is a case of working out approximate usage and then coming to an agreement.

 

My suggestion is to write to Bristol Water with as much information as you have got and advise that you are willing to work with them to come to an agreement regarding usage for which you have any responsibility.

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I've put in an application for Water Direct this evening online,

Hopefully this will be relatively straight forward.

 

 

I've advised that I would like to deal with the debt from the previous address separately and not to include this.

 

 

Whether they do or not doesn't particularly worry me.

 

 

But at least with Water Direct I've stopped the situation escalating any further than it already has.

 

I'll advise what happens over next week or so. Thanks again for the responses folks :)

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