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    • Morning dx and thank you for your message.   With regards to your comment about them not needing to produce the deed, the additional directions ordered by the judge included 'a copy of any assignment o the debt or agreement relied upon'  so that is why I thought that point was relevant?
    • Sorry for the long post but I don't want to miss out any relevant information: My wife bought a car from Trade Centre UK and have been having nothing but trouble with it. Unfortunately we paid of the finance used to buy the car as we weren't expecting this much trouble with the car as we we though we would have protection as buying from a dealer. We are wondering if we can still reject the vehicle since the finance plan has been paid off. Timeline is as follows: 13/12/2023 -15/12/2023 Bought car from Trade Centre UK for £10548 £2000 deposit paid on credit card on 13/12/2023 £8548 on finance from Moneybarn (arranged through Trade Centre UK). picked up car on 15/12/2023 Also bought lifetime warranty for £50/month 25/12/2023 Engine Management Light comes on. The AA called out and diagnosed the following error codes: P0133 - Lambda sensor (bank 1, sensor 1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Slow reaction. Error sporadic P0135 - Lambda sensor heat. circ.(bank1,sensor1) Oxygen Sensor. 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Fault seems to clear after engine was switched off. 07/02/2024 In the Morning, I take it to local garage who say as the light gone off – the warranty company is unlikely to cover the cost of the repair or diagnostics and recommend I contact them when the light comes back on. In the evening the light comes back on and luckily I manage to get it back to the garage just before it shuts for the day. 08/02/2024 The Garage sends me a diagnostics video showing a lot error codes been picked up by their diagnostics machine including codes for Oxygen sensor and Nox Sensors, Accelerator pedal and several more. Video also shows EGR Hose not connected to the intake manifold properly, they believed this was confusing the onboard system as it is unlikely this many sensors would trigger at same the time but they couldn’t be certain until they repaired the hose. 13/02/2024 Finally get the car back as it took a while to get approval and payment for the repairs from the Warranty company. Garage told me to keep an eye the car as errors had cleared with the hose but couldn’t 100% certain that’s what caused the problem. 06/03/2024 Engine management light comes on again. Fed up I go into Trade Centre as I was just around the corner when it happened and asked them how to reject the car or have the problem fixed. They insist that as it’s over 28 days I need to get the car fixed under the warranty package I purchased and they could no longer fix the car as it was over 28 days. When I tried telling them it appeared to be the same or related problem they said they couldn’t help as I hadn’t contacted them earlier. I asked them if they were willing to connect the car to the diagnostics machine and tell me what the problem was, as a goodwill gesture, which he agreed to do and took the car to the back He came back around 30 minutes later and said they took a look at the sensor they replaced previously and there was nothing wrong with it and engine management light went off when they removed the sensor to check it. When I asked what the error code he couldn’t give me an exact fault but the said it one of the problems I told him earlier (Accelerator pedal). I have this visit audio recorded on my phone – I informed the reps I was recording several times. As the light wasn’t on, local garage couldn’t book me for a repair under warranty. 07/03/2024 Light came on so managed to book back into local garage for the 12/03/2024 Whilst waiting to take car into garage, I borrowed a OBD sensor and scanned for errors on the car. This showed the following errors: P11BE – Manufacturer specific code (Google showed this to be NOX sensor) P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow 12/03/2024 Took car to local garage and the confirmed the above errors. This leads me to believe that either Trade Centre UK reps lied and just reset the light or just didn’t check properly (Obviously I am unable to prove this) 22/03/2024 Finally got the car back as according to garage, the warranty company took a long to time to pay for the repairs 28/04/2024 Engine management Light has come back on. Using the borrowed OBD scanner I am getting the following codes: P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow P2138 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185): Implausible Correlation I have not yet booked into a garage as I wanted to see what my rights are in terms of rejecting the car as to me the faults seem related. I can’t keep using taxi or train to get to work every time the car goes into the garage as it is getting very expensive. Am I right in thinking that they have used up their chance to repair when they conducted the repair end of January or when they refused to repair it in February ? If I am still able to reject the vehicle could you point to any sample letters or emails I can use. Thankyou for your advice on my next steps.
    • Ok noted about the screenshot uploads. In terms of screwing up I had one previous ticket that defaulted and ended up in a CCJ from Southend airport because for some reason during COVID I didn't receive their claim form just a notice of default. This hospital ticket was the 2nd ticket that went to CCJ due to a lack of knowledge of the process. Maybe it's easier just to pay them in future I'm thinking though, I don't get them very often anyway
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    • please stop posting up unnecessary unnamed screenshot files  you've done it throughout your threads and we have to renamed them. RENAME THE FILE before you upload if its just text information like a defence or a claim history or a link to a previous post  type it here not by an unnamed screenshot attachment  . sorry NM but you've been here dealing with PPC claims since 2021 somehow you always manage to screw up.......or do totally the opposite of std repeated advice on 10'000 of PPC threads here you are your own worst enemy... dx  
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Andy - just received last transaction information. On the 15th April 2009 two transactions took place on the account. Both were payments made to the account, one was for £1 the other for £201 pounds. That was the last time the account was active I assume. They also said that the account was placed into recovery on the 28th October 2009.

 

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Andy - just received last transaction information. On the 15th April 2009 two transactions took place on the account. Both were payments made to the account, one was for £1 the other for £201 pounds. That was the last time the account was active I assume. They also said that the account was placed into recovery on the 28th October 2009.

 

So if you made no payments after April 09, then the account would have gone into default in about June/July 09, so will be statute barred. With credit cards, it is usually about 2 months after a missed bill that the default is registered.

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Assuming they have issued a Default Notice UB......had a couple of cases were the Court accepted defaulting upto one year later was acceptable and the cause of action...madness.

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Assuming they have issued a Default Notice UB......had a couple of cases were the Court accepted defaulting upto one year later was acceptable and the cause of action...madness.

 

A case of examining the account t&c's,

asking for copy of default notice and

a copy of the creditors internal account processing manual.

 

 

All companies covered by FSA/FCA, have to have fully documented processes for accounts,

which shows how their staff should deal with customer accounts.

This is so that it is possible for auditors to check that the company is maintaining the financial standards expected under FCA handbook.

 

 

When you get audited, they check a load of random customer accounts and compare it with the process guides/maps.

 

Would suggest that the default a year later is an exceptional case or the creditor did not have to disclose the standard process model they followed to meet account terms, as well as regulators financial standards.

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they have 12+2 working days from the day you sent it.

 

 

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Just received today 12th Jan a letter from Cabot dated 8th Jan.

 

 

QTE You recently sent us a payment by postal order,

unfortunately we were not able to cash this postal order because there was no payee filed out . UNQTE

 

 

Then

 

 

QTE When sending your cheque to us, please ensure the amount of payment is stated on the cheque UNQTE

 

 

I left the PO blank as suggested above but I had filled the amount in!

 

 

I imagine this is a stalling tactic by Cabot but

 

 

my question is does the clock still tick re the 12+2 days from the day I sent the CCA request

or has this letter negated that?

 

 

Thanks in anticipation..

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yep std crap.

 

 

send it back

 

 

and no don't use a cheque or sign anything.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you could write cabot on it

 

send another cca request

 

as you are not paying the 12+2 working days are immaterial really.

 

until/unless the produce an enforceable agreement

 

they cant demand anything

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Today, 23rd Jan, letter received from Cabot.. .......... 'We confirm that we do not hold all your information on file, therefore we have requested a copy of the Agreement and Statement of account from the original creditor and will forward to you upon receipt. The account is on hold whilst we await this information.'

 

How long do they have to provide this information?

 

Thanks in advance

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doesnt appear to be one, yet.

scrivenger - if it was placed in recovery oct 09 (that usually indicates a prior default), and no payment/acknowlegment since then, bar looks likely :)

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Just sit back and wait for those at Cabot to say we will leave your account on hold as the original credit needs to find the agreement. When that arrives don't start letter tennis its counter productive. Their letter will state they have 40 days to comply not true...

 

 

Simply wait and keep ALL letters from Cabot. Then only respond to them within say 30 days between each letter. Then stay off of the phone unless you are recording it....

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Good Afternoon,

 

I'm after some assistance please with the following:-

 

I received today in the post a letter from CABOT regarding my account. It states that 'as we have not been able to come to a mutual arrangement to repay your account, Cabot Financial will be passing your account out to Ruthbridge Limited, a debt collection agency.'

 

My previous dealings with Cabot involved me sending an SB letter that was kindly supplied by yourselves. That was over 7 or 8 years ago now and I hadn't heard from them until today.

 

My question is should I send another SB letter to Ruthbridge or should I just ignore them?. I'm assuming Cabot have sold the debt on and that Ruthbridge will just use slimeball tactics to try and convince me that I still owe.

 

TIA

 

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which debt is this

the citi card

or

the Lloyds card

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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threads merged for history

 

cabot have not sold the debt anywhere

 

if you read the letter carefully

you'll see ruths are just another trading name/sol? and their client is cabot.

 

since you sent the old SB letter

the rules have change and the FCA conc rules have come into force

 

send cabot our new SB letter

in the debt collection section of our library

you should then hear nothing more

 

 

since

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ok, i'm very grateful for your advice. I will follow it and send a revised SB letter to CABOT. However I am unable to find any refereance in either letter to Ruthbridge being a solicitor. Grateful if you could show me where.

 

TIA

 

Scrivenger

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correct just another cabot trading name

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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both?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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