Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • If you're set on pursuing the receiver then a complaint to his governing body (if any) might be a sensible low risk first step. You need to confirm what qualifications he actually has. I don't believe an LPA Receiver necessarily needs to be a licensed insolvency practioner, although he may be. Or he may a chartered surveyor. I note you say "LPA" and "fixed charge" receiver, but aren't those two different appointments with different remits? What relevant powers are given in the mortgage terms and security? Or if that's unclear then how was the appointment described to you? Ducking back to the comment I made earlier, you consulted a solicitor who advised a claim against the receiver. How did he advise that you do so?   Some background reading .. LPA receivers owe very limited duty to borrowers; a reminder WWW.WRIGHTHASSALL.CO.UK As lenders rely more and more on their powers to appoint an LPA Receiver, a recent case has clarified the Receiver’s obligations, both to the lender and its borrower.  
    • Good Law Project are trying to force HMG to release details of how Sunak's hedge fund made large profits from Moderna. Government ordered to disclose Sunak’s hedge fund emails - Good Law Project GOODLAWPROJECT.ORG Good Law Project has won a battle with the Treasury after it tried to suppress emails between Rishi Sunak and the hedge fund he founded.  
    • Nick Wallis has written up the first day of Angela van den Bogerd's evidence to the inquiry. I thought she was awful. She's decided to go with being not bright enough to spot what was happening over Fujitsu altering entries on the Horizon system, rather than covering up important facts. She's there today as well. The First Lady of Flat Earth – Post Office Scandal WWW.POSTOFFICESCANDAL.UK Angela van den Bogerd, on oath once more It is possible that Angela van den Bogerd and her senior colleagues (Rodric Williams, Mark Davies, Susan...  
    • Thank-you dx, What you have written is certainly helpful to my understanding. The only thing I would say, what I found to be most worrying and led me to start this discussion is, I believe the judge did not merely admonish the defendant in the case in question, but used that point to dismiss the case in the claimants favour. To me, and I don't have your experience or knowledge, that is somewhat troubling. Again, the caveat being that we don't know exactly what went on but I think we can infer the reason for the judgement. Thank-you for your feedback. EDIT: I guess that the case I refer to is only one case and it may never happen again and the strategy not to appeal is still the best strategy even in this event, but I really did find the outcome of that case, not only extremely annoying but also worrying. Let's hope other judges are not quite so narrow minded and don't get fixated on one particular issue as FTMDave alluded to.
    • Indians, traditionally known as avid savers, are now stashing away less money and borrowing more.View the full article
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Vanquis debt sold to lowells


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 1222 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

  • 3 weeks later...

So I've just received a letter back from Lowell who are the DCA for Vanquis stating:

 

 

"We've requested a copy of your original credit agreement and we will reply as soon as possible but this does depend on when your original lender can send it. We will let you know if we do not hear from them in time."

 

 

My questions are -

 

 

1. does the 12 days start from the date on the letter I sent them or

 

 

2. the date they received it or

 

 

3. the date I posted it?

 

 

3. does it start from the date they requested it from Vanquis?

 

 

Sorry - so many questions!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I've just got a letter back from Lowell stating:

 

"We have ordered statements on your account. As we have requested these from Vanquis, it may take some time for them to be returned to us. During this time your account has been placed on hold."

 

They go on...

 

"In the meantime there is no need to contact us again regarding this matter, however, should you wish to speak to someone (yeah right!!) in our Customer Service team please do not hesitate to call on 08448444716"...

 

Where does that leave the CCA request and what are my next steps, please?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Until they can comply with your CCA request they should not be contacting you. The actual timescale is 12 days from their receipt which is classed as 12+2 days from posting. You need to remember there is no actual penalty for not complying with the request only that they can not enforce the debt until they do ( They could issue a claim and hope it was undefended but that's a bit naughty and can be dealt with)

I am guessing that the agreement is post 2005 and possibly post 2007. If it is post 2005 then it could be an electronic signature and if post 2007 they do not even need a legally compliant agreement , all they need to do is fulfil your CCA request.

Having said that my Vanquis account has no valid DN and is purely an application form, so far so good, in fact I think if memory serves me Lowell have written it off

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

Link to post
Share on other sites

There is no letter you need to send especially as they have replied. As for stopping payments that is a decision only you can make . I stopped but I wasn't working and had no income. Sorry if that's no help but I can only tell you what I did as I don't know your circumstances, work, assets, home owner etc

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Good evening all,

 

I've received my CCA paperwork from Lowell... However I think I have a problem....

It is a very bad photocopy of the electronic application and a statement.

I do not *feel* this is right but I'm not sure where to go now.

Is this it?

From what fletch said above there's no Default notification.

But I'm not sure whether there's anything I can do now or just start paying again?

 

In their letter they state that they consider this to comply with the CCA sections and that they purchased the account from Vanquis and they are entitled to receive payment of the outstanding balance.

 

There are also lots of lines on the "statement" that say: Billed finance charges purchase interest - I have no idea what this is! This basically goes from June 2011 to January 2012 and adds up to well over £200.

 

There is also a copy of some generic T&C's enclosed which are really badly photocopied and feel wrong (I could be wrong, but it just doesn't feel right)

 

Some advise please guys?

 

Bump - anyone, please?

Link to post
Share on other sites

You may have answered these

when did you take the agreement out?

How many sets of term did you get, why do they feel wrong

Did you ever receive a default notice as opposed to a notice of default sums?

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

Link to post
Share on other sites

According to the paperwork it was taken out on 15/9/2010

 

Just one set of T&C's (really small lettering and a bad photocopy)

 

Never received a default notice

 

It's just a really bad photocopy

 

I thought I read on another thread that they have to give you the original documents....

 

I'm not sure why it seems wrong, maybe I've been reading too much and got myself confused :)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Has to be legible to be compliant.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

tbh , with your ac starting in 2010, you are not going to get very far with the cca route

 

very easy to comply

 

Big1978 said:
Thanks fletch :)

 

So, do I stop the monthly payment I am making to them? Or shall I keep it going?

 

Is there another letter I need to write after the 12 + 2 days is up (on 9th Feb)?

 

stopping payments will leave you open to litigation

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Not quite. They still need to comply with a S78 request and they do still need to comply with other aspects of the cca such as DN and annual statements etc. Yes stopping paying is a risk. I have recently had a 2008 debt written off by lowells .

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks guys! Fletch - should I write to them now then?

I'm obviously wanting to pay, but I read so much about bad DCA's that I want to make that Lowell are acting correctly.

 

When do they need to send a DN?

It's possible I got some from Vanquis but obviously I was going through a break up and wasn't at the address.

 

That being said I've NEVER received a statement or DN from Lowells since they acquired the account.

Do they still have to do these things?

Link to post
Share on other sites

You need to check EVERYTHING about a debt if lowells have their grubby hands on it. Dont blindly pay simply because you are panicking.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

There are a few things to think about

1) Do you own any property or other substantial assets? I am thinking here about how financially viable it could be for them to take action

2) The DN should have been issued by Vanquis before the debt was sold , I believe it may be too late now to fix that

3) The terms and conditions , do they have the interest rate on them, I may be wrong but they need to include a total cost for credit and I know on mine it was very vague and the interest rate varied depending on your credit limit. Sadly though an improperly executed agreement is no longer grounds to make the debt unenforceable

 

I would be sending back a letter saying they have not complied with your S78 request because the alleged agreement is illegible

 

Do you have any funds available to maybe make an offer in the future , only a small amount though

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Thanks for your reply Fletch:

 

1) No no assets or property

2) Should I mention that in the letter?

3) I'll check that (if I can find a magnifying glass!!)

 

I'll do the letter and offer them maybe £200 as full and final settlement? Or is that too low (is pretty much what I can afford as a lump sum)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Big

All I can tell you is what I did which was with a few bigger debts I wrote to them saying look not only do I dispute the account because..... but I have no job no money and no assets with no prospects in the short or medium term but if you believe that you can win please issue me with a statutory demand and make me BR as you would be doing me a massive favour. If you do issue the SD I will not contest it

 

Of course I was fully prepared to go BR but didn't have the money, I haven't heard a word in a good while now.

 

I would not mention the DN , keep that up your sleeve just in case

 

P.S. just how much is the balance, I would not offer a full n final but there again if I had a few spare quid I might just to be rid

Any opinion I give is from personal experience .

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 5 years later...

open

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • dx100uk changed the title to Vanquis debt sold to lowells

where the CCA return from lowells?

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

we've seen that already today.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...