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    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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I'm feeling decidedly chipper at the moment, so am going to go out for a drink or two...

 

Next weeks interrogation can wait.....

I may or may not fill in the ESA50 they sent me and take it with me, or I may just take the shed load of medical notes I've acquired over the last three years

to finally get me into the SG...

 

There is nothing new to add, apart from a broken leg done crossing the road, a fight on a train throwing two kids off, and having therapy

through combat stress......all in all no improvement since my TBI in 2005......

 

Thank you for all your help, everyone, no doubt I will be opening a new thread in a few weeks when I score zero points, again!, and have another three year fight on my hands, at least this time round, i have a new MP who claims to support veterans.....we'll see! :thumb:

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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at least you'll have the back pay to be a bit of a cushion if they chuck you back in wrag again.

 

Yes that's what I was thinking, although I do have utility bills which need paying off due to the lack of income!

And no doubt the LA will want all their HB paid back?!?!?

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Arrears payments of benefits aren't taking into account when calculating hb, so you're fine with that.

 

Are you serious?

Because my LA is currently docking £10 a week of my HB entitlement due to arrears at the beginning of this farce!!

 

Please tell me I can tackle the LA over this, I can start a new thread!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Are you serious?

Because my LA is currently docking £10 a week of my HB entitlement due to arrears at the beginning of this farce!!

 

Please tell me I can tackle the LA over this, I can start a new thread!

 

Yes. Arrears are disregarded in full for 52 weeks.

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Yes. Arrears are disregarded in full for 52 weeks.

 

Oh dear! Dear oh dear oh dear!!

Standby PCC, brace yourselves!!

 

Here's my new thread, http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?446289-LA-amp-HB-overpayment-due-to-ESA-woes!-Legal-Possibly-not!&p=4738439#post4738439

 

Would love your advice Nystagmite

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Just as an update in case anyone else goes through similar...

 

As I was placed in the SG (albeit 20 months later after the failed WCA) then the appointment I have next week (another WCA)

is null & void.

 

Even though I was given a 12 month prognosis, this was when I was placed in the WRAG, which was back dated ten months meaning I had 8 weeks till the end of my prognosis, the new WCA next Friday is to see if I remain in the WRAG, even though I wouldn't receive any state assistance (benefit).

 

I have informed them that I will not be attending next weeks assessment as I am waiting for a decision notice, along with a new 'prognosis' before I attend any further assessments.

 

That in itself was a palava!

 

ESA were trying to tell me to ring up the assessment centre and cancel it?

Told them that it can't come from me it has to come direct from them/DWP as it is them who tell the interrogation centres when the victims need to be farmed in.

 

Anyhow, all in all a three year fight which has left me truly exhausted, the day I got the directions notice from HMCTS all I wanted to do was sleep!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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sorry to tell you this, but you should still attend the wca. You risk your benefit being stopped if you don't attend and would probably be due for reassessment anyway even if you had been initially put in support group. Waiting for a decision notice on an appeal isn't good cause not to attend.

 

I understand that after the long fight, you don't want to be put in the position of having to fight again - but my concern for you is that if you don't attend you will have a completely different (and in fact harder) fight on your hands.

 

It is of course up to you.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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Right OK.....

 

How I was told by the ESA hotline, that as the appeal has found in my favour, that all decisions made by ATOS, JCP DM, are now struck out, they don't exist.

 

And I should now wait for the decision notice with a new prognosis, and then any subsequent assessments I should attend...

 

However it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that was a pack of lies!

 

I'll have to double check the phone recording, but knowing this shower, you are quite correct, belt & braces approach, I will turn up on the day I think.....

 

Unless I get anything in the post prior telling me different, I really couldn't go through another three years, or more, of bureaucratic political cr@p, I'd top myself!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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If you have the recording saying you don't have to go the wca - in those words then maybe it would be OK..........but, if it were me I'd request a call back from a decision maker as phone monkeys actually know very little.

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Cheers will double check the recording, however if I don't receive anything in writing, I think I will just attend anyway.....don't want to give them any excuses.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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well yes, even if you have the higher ground with the recording, you'd still have a fight on your hands to get benefit reinstated....and then you'd probably still have to go to a wca.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office ~ Aesop

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As it turns out, and true to form, they cancelled the WCA the evening before!

 

Stating that the Dr was 'ill'......ah bless, hope it's nothing too trivial.

 

The sheer arrogance of this corrupt department is truly staggering!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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RX'd (Received)a letter from the JCP regarding wanting my pension details because they believe it will be increasing soon, it isn't, it increases in April the start of the financial year, anyhow.........

 

Got through to one of their call centres, did the usual DPA checks and proceeded with asking why they wanted it as it went up in Apr and won't rise again until next April..

 

''That's fine sir, if you just send a letter in stating that it'll be fine, it's just some pensions rise in August as well''

 

I then asked him why I'd not received a response to my three letters asking them to provide me with a breakdown of how exactly the contribution based ESA has been made up, and what they have deducted and why.

 

He tells me he can tell me over the phone how it has been made up etc etc, I tell him I want it in writing, so I have evidence, and can provide it to the LA etc. This falls on deaf ears, again, and by now my blood pressure is increasing...

 

I then discuss how the DWP haven't had my pension statement for the last three years, since they stopped my ESA after the WCA farce, blah blah blah, and that since they have accepted I am unfit for work, they have simply rubber stamped a figure out of fresh air, with no breakdown as to how they arrived at that figure.

 

Then the condescending arrogant little oik, turns it round and blames me for them not providing the info, with a flippant remark, that ''if you sent in the information we have asked for then we can respond to your letters?????????????????????''

 

I simply told him it's a two way street, respond to my letters and I'll respond to theirs.

 

By now he was as annoyed as me just going round in circles, but I think I had the upper hand, told him to have a good weekend, before ending the call.

 

I'm going to have to transcript the call and send it to my local MP, not that she cares, nor responds to my previous letters, I see a distinct correlation between the DWP and my new Tory MP....

 

Anyhow, I just wanted to vent, and praise truecall once again, what an absolute godsend that little box of tricks is!

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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OK, latest update, the independent case examiner (ICE) have responded and have 'defined the element of your complaint as;'

 

"DWP failed to provide you with the opportunity to provide all of the evidence you had available in advance of the decision made regarding your ESA in January 2013"

 

Er no...not quite.... I've got a while to contact them and either agree or not that they have correctly defined my complaint.

 

So I have come up with my definition of my complaint, and wanted to get others views on it?

 

"The DWP failed to accurately use the evidence provided in order to correctly diagnose a prognosis, instead ignoring all evidence, and causing severe financial hardship and further exacerbating my mental health issues".

 

Does that sound better?

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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