WRAG without assessment

[samsmummy]

I have requested a statement of reason, but can anyone tell me is that the same as requesting the medical report. I have not had any assessment, just got the form to fill in and then the letter saying WRAG arrived.

 

I cannot walk 50m without stopping and i put this on the form, so I am not sure what they were reading. I have been on IB for 23 years so this is very worring for me, as it is for a lot of people.

 

Any help would be good. Thankyou

[itsme123]

I have requested a statement of reason, but can anyone tell me is that the same as requesting the medical report. I have not had any assessment, just got the form to fill in and then the letter saying WRAG arrived.

 

I cannot walk 50m without stopping and i put this on the form, so I am not sure what they were reading. I have been on IB for 23 years so this is very worring for me, as it is for a lot of people.

 

Any help would be good. Thankyou

 

I've recently had this I attended 2 assessments now the third they based on my EA50 form.

 

I'm guessing you have sent that off?

[samsmummy]

Yes it was my EA50. I have not had an assessment for about 4 years.

[RaeUK]

Quite a few people appear to be being shuffled from IB straight to WRAG via the ESA50 only. If you feel you meet the criteria for the Support Group you will need to appeal.

[samsmummy]

Quite a few people appear to be being shuffled from IB straight to WRAG via the ESA50 only. If you feel you meet the criteria for the Support Group you will need to appeal.

 

So is asking for a reconsideration or review no use, do I have to go straight to appeal?

[Nystagmite]

If you go straight to appeal, they reconsider it anyway.

 

It doesn't matter how far you can walk - they want to know how far you can mobilise.

[samsmummy]

If you go straight to appeal, they reconsider it anyway.

 

It doesn't matter how far you can walk - they want to know how far you can mobilise.

Thats the problem I can't mobilise

[antone]

Thats the problem I can't mobilise

 

Then you should appeal as soon as possible.

[**Margaret**]

:samsmummy:

 

What you've described is the increasingly common response of Atos and Government in their increasingly desperate attempts to get their reassessment of incapacity benefits back to a plausible timetable. Sling claimants an award of employment n support allowance with the work related activity component and hope they'll be grateful to have 'passed' without a trip to Atos.

 

In these circumstances, Jobcentreplus response to your request is anyone's guess. The statement of reasons could say little more than passed on scrutiny/the evidence suggests ...... And for conversion awards without a face to face assessment they've given up completing score sheets. The medical report is a separate document, an ESA85A, which will probably be equally vague but you'll need a copy (it's available on request) if you intend to appeal.

 

Best wishes, Margaret.

[samsmummy]

I think I will as suggested ask for a copy of the medical report. Then I will appeal as advised. Do you think a letter of support from my GP would help my case. Thank you very much.

[45002]

I have requested a statement of reason, but can anyone tell me is that the same as requesting the medical report. I have not had any assessment, just got the form to fill in and then the letter saying WRAG arrived.

 

I cannot walk 50m without stopping and i put this on the form, so I am not sure what they were reading. I have been on IB for 23 years so this is very worring for me, as it is for a lot of people.

 

Any help would be good. Thankyou

 

Hello samsmummy

 

I have a theory about people moving from IB to ESA WRAG,Have a read of what I posted hear

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?382440-ESA-Tribunal-recommended-24-months-before-reassessment-JC-only-give-12!&p=4323893&viewfull=1#post4323893

 

Can I ask as well How long have you been placed in the WRAG group for ?

[samsmummy]

It did not say on the letter, but it said that I will only get for 365 days. When I rang dwp the lad on the phone said 2 years.

[45002]

It did not say on the letter, but it said that I will only get for 365 days. When I rang dwp the lad on the phone said 2 years.

 

 

After 365 days you will be able to claim Income related ESA...

 

https://www.gov.uk/employment-support-allowance/what-youll-get

[samsmummy]

After 365 days you will be able to claim Income related ESA...

 

https://www.gov.uk/employment-support-allowance/what-youll-get

 

My husband is self employed and works full time, so I was of the understanding that I would not get it. Trouble is we live on what I get, I don't think we could put gas or electric on never mind food if I were to loose it altogether.

Edited September 16, 2013 by samsmummy
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[Nystagmite]

I think I will as suggested ask for a copy of the medical report. Then I will appeal as advised. Do you think a letter of support from my GP would help my case. Thank you very much.

 

Yes. You need to gather as much evidence as you can.

[antone]

Do you believe that you satisfy at least one of the Support Group Descriptors (scroll to page 25 and read the section titled "Limited Capability for Work Related Activity Descriptors")?

[**Margaret**]

:samsmummy:

 

Until the end of next month (when the law changes, but it won't affect your current decision) most claimants who disagree the outcome of a work capability assessment, with or without a trip to Atos, choose to appeal from the outset cos the process automatically includes a reconsideration.

 

Contributions flavoured employment n support with the work related activity component is only payable for three hundred and sixty five days. The two years mentioned by the lad on the phone will be the recommended, by Atos, interval before reassessment. It's only a recommendation that Jobcentreplus can, and sometimes do, overrule.

 

Have a look at the support group descriptors. If you believe you meet 1 (a) or (b) or any of the others, appeals need to be in writing. Either a letter to include the word 'appeal' or a GL24 form. If your doctor will write a supportive letter, it needs to explain why you can't walk or self propel a manual wheelchair for 50 metres.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/gl24-if-you-think-our-decision-is-wrong

 

CAG's guide to appeals;

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?251737-Appealing-or-going-to-a-Tribunal-Some-useful-information

 

Best wishes, Margaret.

[samsmummy]

Thank you very much for helping. I will wait for the ESA85A to get here, and as I feel that I meet the support group criteria on not being able to mobilise, then I will write and ask for a review.

 

Thanks again.

[mr_mastiff]

I have requested a statement of reason, but can anyone tell me is that the same as requesting the medical report. I have not had any assessment, just got the form to fill in and then the letter saying WRAG arrived.

 

I cannot walk 50m without stopping and i put this on the form, so I am not sure what they were reading. I have been on IB for 23 years so this is very worring for me, as it is for a lot of people.

 

Any help would be good. Thankyou

 

Exactly the same happened to me, I appealed using the same information and was placed into the support group