Islington PCN code 01 confusing signage and road markings

[sclunn]

I have been given a ticket and appealed it on the basis that the signage isnt clear. The council say that its a market traders bay and active only on match days as it is near arsenal football ground. Before I went there the person I was seeing made the effort to get a valid temporary residents parking permit for the day which I correctly adjusted. I researched the day before to make sure that it wasn't a match day and the team were in fact playing away.

I arrived on the day and read the sign very carefully and there was a bay with a number in it but on reading the sign which was between my space and another it said there were additional controls on match days. I parked in the space and got a ticket. I have attached photos that I took as soon as I saw that I had a ticket.

 

I don't believe that the signage and road markings are clear, the single yellow line is in fact broken and the sign makes it seem that the yellow line was in fact there for match days. I have never seen a number in a space before and there was no info on the sign to indicate that it was a market traders space at all.

 

can any one advise please as I am quite annoyed by this and the council are acting like stubborn mules. I don't live in London and where I do live there is no market.

[Michael Browne]

Exact location?

 

Post up the PCN (minus PCN no and reg no)

[sclunn]

photo of front side of ticket attached

[Michael Browne]

http://goo.gl/maps/FH9lM

 

Downside is that the market bay is considerably smaller than a normal bay and has a SYL running through it, which the resident parking bays don't.

 

However the timeplate is at the end of the resident bay and could be mistaken for applying to both.

 

The council are unlikely to accept this and you would have to take this to adjudication.

Whether the adjudicator would agree with you would be a gamble.

 

If you still have the discount available, I'd probably pay. If you are at the NTO stage, (ie full penalty) then you have nothing to lose by appealing.

[sclunn]

sadly I am at the NTO stage but believe that the signage was inadequate for any reasonable person to understand how it linked to the syl or space. The fact that on the sign it did not have an arrow indicating which side it applied to or that this space was for market traders is my main reason why this PCN was wrongly given. When I parked there I didn't notice that it was shorter than the next one either. I might remember to check next time to make sure but why is it that this sort of information doesnt really get known about until you get a PCN or you are involved in traffic/parking control. there should be a statement on the sign saying it is a market traders space. its mad

[Michael Browne]

I am at the NTO stage

Make a formal appeal to the NTO, and when that is rejected, appeal to PATAS.. Even if you subsequently lose at adjudication, you will still only be liable for the full penalty. And if the adjudicator agrees with the confusing signage, the penalty is cancelled.

[sclunn]

will do.

 

thanks

[Conniff]

You need green and Mean in on this one