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    • If anybody has any advice here, it would be greatly appreciated, I already suffer with pre-existing disabilities & have struggled with this so far. 
    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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Hello everyone, I am new to CAG, have read lots of the existing postings and have found them very useful so have decided to take the plunge!

 

I like a lot of people have fallen into the vicious circle of pay day loans, after months of juggling them i now have 7 PDL's, been taking out more to pay each other off and now have a total debt of circa 4K.

 

In January I took the decision not to continue the juggling and don't want to get further into debt so stopped paying, cancelled my Debit card, and contacted the lenders directly to request that I set up a repayment plan directly with them (I did look at Debt management companies but decided against using them as there fees are too high and involving them will delay the repayment process and cost more!)

 

Anyway the majority of my lenders have been cooperative and have agreed to my pro-rata repayment plans and I habe set up Standing orders to start paying at the end of February, when I next get paid.

 

However Minicredit have been the most difficukt to deal with, I have been e-mailing them to request setting up a repayment plan and at first they told me that they dont do them etc.

 

But I have percevered by contacting them via their web site as the request and they have come back to me with the following response, which I am looking for feedback and advice on, please:

 

"In order to discuss a long term payment arrangement via our debt recovery partners please follow the hardship procedure.

Microcredit Ltd has activated a Hardship application on minicredit online account. Please log in to Your account follow the instructions and send the application back to us."

 

"In order to apply for Hardship status of your account, please follow the instructions below:

 

1) Please fill in your current income details.

 

2) Please fill in your current expenditure details.

 

3) Please fill in your creditor details

 

4) Please review the details.

 

5) Click Print the form

 

6) Sign, date and fax the form to 020 7138 2919

 

7) Our team will need to assess the proposal. You will be contacted by our Hardship team member within 5 working days to come to a mutually agreeable solution.

 

"To discuss Your monthly payments and the repayment plan balance please contact us on 08718903015 from 8AM to 8PM Monday to Friday, 9AM to 8PM on Saturday and 9AM to 5PM on Sunday. We may require documentary evidence of your financial difficulties.

 

Please bear in mind that the status of the account will not be changed until an assessment has been made by our Hardship team. All the charges will be added until full repayment has been received or until the Hardship team member has contacted You and set up an agreement.

Microcredit Ltd is not able to stop the automated debit attempts so if You have the possibility then cancel the card that is registered in the system.

 

Microcredit Ltd is able to provide our Hardship customers three possibilities.

 

The first option is a settlement. The settlement means that when You contact our Customer support we are able to reduce the current outstanding balance and waive some of the failed debit attempt fees. The settlement must be paid over the phone during the phone-call with a debit card.

 

The second option we are able to provide You is a settlement plan. We provide all our clients 120 days from the due date to make payments of any amount towards their outstanding balance. You would need to make at least one payment a month towards the balance. Before the 120th comes days You would need to make a full and final settlement offer. Microcredit Ltd will then overlook all the payments we have received and they will be taken into consideration while calculating the settlement. The reasonable settlement amount must cover the daily interest for every day our funds have been used, the loan principal and the two penalties for breaking the Loan agreement. The interest is 1% of the Loan principal per day. We are able to decrease some of the failed debit attempt fees.

 

Microcredit does not provide You the dates nor the amounts when You need to make the payments. The partial payments possibility is available 24/7 on mini credit online account under 'Repayment' section. The most important part is that at least once a month a payment of any amount must be made. The loan should be cleared latest by the 120th overdue day.

 

The settlement can be discussed at any point when You have a larger amount available to offer as a full and final settlement.

 

The third option is a payment plan. The payment plan means that we will add the default date interest to the loan principal, the two penalties for breaking the Loan agreement (£80.00) and the decreased debit attempt fees and forward the account to our debt recovery partner from the beginning of the next month. The default is marked on the credit reference but You will be able to make the payments on a monthly basis to clear the balance."

 

All advice from CAG member gratefully received!

 

Regards

 

Zohan1967

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Won't happen! I've been trying for a month to do this and they keep adding charges. This morning I have sent an email entitled formal complaint to see if that happens and told them I am reporting their charges and refusal to accept standing order to the oFT, as well as theirs threatening debt collector letter. Letsnsee if that helps.

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I too have been trying to set up a payment plan with tgese and so far no luck. An £80 loan is now at over £800!!!! They keep slapping charge after charge on for their non existent doorstep collectors. Waiting for dca to drop a letter and shall try again with them. I wont pay more than original loan, 1 month interest and 1 default fee. Wish u luck

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I too have been trying to set up a payment plan with tgese and so far no luck. An £80 loan is now at over £800!!!! They keep slapping charge after charge on for their non existent doorstep collectors. Waiting for dca to drop a letter and shall try again with them. I wont pay more than original loan, 1 month interest and 1 default fee. Wish u luck

 

How long since you defaulted / how long have you been trying?

I too plan only to pay original balance, 1 month interest and default fee, also have you / anyone received the same correspondence as me??

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Thanks for the advice on what I should / should not disclose, I also have a I/E to complete for Uncle Buck and they have requested copies of my Bank statements and Pay-slips, but I have no intention of providing either of these. I think I read on another CAG posting that they come under the Data Protection Act?

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Zohan1967

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Nope. They have absolutely zero need to see a statement or payslip.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to respond to me some good advice and comforting to know that I am not alone!

Would be interested to know if anyone has had a successful outcome with Minicredit and other PD lenders?

 

Zohan1967

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What other lenders do u have? Ive had a few pdl in the past lol

 

I've set up standing orders to repay by monthly instalments with:

Txtloan, 24-7 moneybox, CFO, YES, THL, without any problems just e-mailed them told them my circumstances and made pro-raga offers based on. 9 monthly payments that I can afford. Just need to do the same with Uncle Buck and Minicredit now !

 

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Ive had no experience with uncle buck. I had one with txtloan, must admit they were helpful enough. I have currently got peachy, cash genie, pde and mini credit. Minicredit just give me a headache trying to come to an arrangement, waiting for it to go to dca now.

 

I have also found txtloan to be helpful so far as well, even CFO have been cooperative which was a surprise because I have read a lot o bad stuff about them also!

Just out of interest how long did you go without paying Minicredit before they started threatening doorstep collections etc?

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Email them once or twice a week. Make sure you get read reciepts and you cc it to a secure address so you can prove that it was sent. It is NOT your problem to chase them up. If they wont reply, it is THEIR problem and will look very bad on them if they decide to take it further.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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I can only tell you what happened to me with mini credit. They are a nightmare to deal with but I got there in the end.

They sent continual texts etc with failed debit card fees, defaults etc and a £150 loan ended up at £1204

 

I offered them loan + 1 months interest =£202.50 but they wouldn't accept.

Eventually after 9 months it was passed onto Mackenzie Hall for collection, not sold to them and I stuck to the same line, loan + 1 mths int and they (after several e-mails) accepted that in full and final settlement.

 

They know those debit card fees and default charges wouldn't stand up in court and so try to intimidate.

 

If I was you I'd stick to your guns and you'll get there, it's just hard work.

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Received my 1st threatening text from Minicredit today:

 

We would like to remind you that your MiniCredit overdue loan balance is £852.00.

 

If we are unable to recover full amount within next 10 days we'll send Your account to THE DOORSTEP COLLECTOR and You will incur extra costs.

 

We may also start legal action against You. We also report the status of Your outstanding account to Credit reference agencies. All this process affects your credit score adversely and ability to receive credit in the future.

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How will you incur extra costs from a doorstep collector? I never understood that one.

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