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    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
    • They are absolute chuckleheads. You paid but because you entered a different car park site also belonging to them they are pursuing you despite them knowing what you had done. It would be very obvious to everyone, including Alliance that your car could not have been in two places at the same time. Thank you for posting the PCN so quickly making it a pity that you appealed since there are so many things wrong with it that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. They rarely accept appeals since that would mean they lose money but they have virtually no chance of beating you in Court. Very unlikely that they will take you to Court given the circumstances. Just in case you didn't out yourself as the driver could you please post up your appeal.
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Hi everyone,there's a lot of back history to date relating to this alleged "debt" and 1st crackpots but am putting it in a new thread in the hope that someone'll be able to help?

 

Brief history: 1st credit don't have a CCA for this debt so I refused to acknowledge it (I'm really not sure what it is, as the amount is nothing I've ever borrowed). They sent a Stat demand three years back, I won in court, all went quiet then recently their letters and demands started up again, then all quiet for two years now this:

 

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How should I reply? IS there anything I can do to make them go away for good?

 

Thanks

 

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What happened with the stat demand - did you get it set aside and for what reason?

 

You could point out that they had previously issued a Stat Demand which you successfully set aside.

 

 

That you will vigorously defend any new litigation they might attempt.

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Thanks - perfect.

 

A simple letter to Past Due along the lines of the above..

 

Dear Sir or Madam

 

Account references

 

 

I was rather surprised to receive your letter DATED. It would appear your client failed to advise that on DATE, they issued a statutory demand in respect of this account. It was successfully set aside and costs were awarded to me (obviously if you didnt claim costs then remove that bit).

 

Please be aware that I consider your statement - "in order to avoid further calls and letter, I must pay immediately" - to be a threat of continued harassment, which of course is in breach of OFT debt collection guidelines.

 

I suggest you return this account to your client.

 

Yours etc..

 

PRINT OR SIGN DIGITALLY.

 

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Send the letter above to Past Credit..

 

You can if you wish, copy it to 1st credit "for information only".

 

Then wait and see if 1st credit decide to get in touch.

 

I am suggesting you send a copy to 1st credit, because it is likely Past Credit will return the account as uncollectable and 1st credit might just chance their arm with another DCA.

 

This is putting them on notice that you are aware of their little game.

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I think you are going to have to send the letters by recorded delivery so you have a record / proof of sending and receipt.

 

Please keep us updated :)

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Actually I was looking through past correspondence to find the Court date (2008) when I came across the below, which I sent to 1st credit in 2009. Does the fact that I've sent this already change what I should send now?

 

 

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05/11/2009

 

 

Your reference

 

 

Legal notice under the Data Protection Act 1980

 

 

To; The Data controller/compliance Manager

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

 

Please be advised that this is a formal notice issued under Section 10 of the Data Protection Act 1980.

I demand that you cease processing of my Data by any means whether written or electronically, with third party individuals and organisations. In addition to processing, this also means passing, amending, sharing and management in any form of my Data in whatsoever filing, both manually or electronically.

 

In compliance with the Information Commissioners guidance, I give you 14 days to comply with this request.

 

The purpose of this request is that I am of the understanding that your continual processing/controlling of my data will cause distress harm and damage.

Specifically because;

 

(i) My credit worthiness is being or has been damaged by your actions as a result of your entries to my credit files, which relate to an alleged debt and subsequent charges that I do not acknowledge.

 

(ii)That recorded defaults on my credit files by yourselves are in dispute.

 

(iii)That I fully expect to show that adverse data was wrongly filed which would mean that earlier processing was unfair and unjust.

 

(iii) That the adverse data you continue to process, manage and pass on to third parties impedes my ability to apply for credit, mortgages or other financial services.

 

(iv)That as a data controller/compliance officer, you have a responsibility under the Data Protection Act to observe all principles set out therein, within the Act.

 

 

I expect an acknowledgement of your intentions to comply, and if you do not agree, your reasons for being unable or unwilling to do so.

 

Furthermore, it must also be officially noted that this alleged ‘debt’ has already been the subject of a County Court judgment in 2008 when the Judge ruled in my favour in the matter of a Statutory Demand issued by yourselves, and it was established that no viable Consumer Credit Agreement exists in relation to this matter. The letter you have sent me is evidence of an attempt to make unlawful demands for payment contrary to s.78(6) of the CCA 1974 and the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPUTR).

 

I note that the Credit Services Association, in the first paragraph of its Code, states that members must act lawfully at all times. Furthermore, under the CPUTR 2008 failing to comply with a code of conduct to which you have subscribed is unfair trading. I require from yourselves a written acknowledgement that this alleged debt is not attributable to myself and that you have no consumer credit agreement linking me to this alleged debt.

 

In the circumstances, I will not enter into further correspondence with you, and any further unlawful demands or contact will be viewed as harassment and reported to the appropriate enforcement agency.

 

As this is the case, I formally request that yourselves – namely “1st Credit Ltd.” acknowledge in writing that this disputed debt is unenforceable and as such the matter is closed. This statement constitutes due notice that failure to acknowledge this in writing may lead to further legal action against your company.

 

You also state that you may send a representative to make a “doorstep visit.” Your visiting officers will not call at my address. This letter denotes prior written and legal warning that any such visit will constitute trespass and harassment. Normally there is an assumed right of entry to the front door of a property. However this is denied to your employees and agents and any such person as you may instruct in this or any other matter. Any such act will evidently constitute harassment since prior warning has been given.

 

Your company will not send me any threatening letters or any other correspondence; you will not visit my property. You may, of course, reply to this letter.

 

 

 

I will give you 14 days to forward this to me in writing.

 

 

Under the Data Protection Act, a County Court has the powers to order compliance of any breaches it sees fit, together with compensation, at the discretion of the court.

 

Should you fail to comply, or give just and reasonable reasons as to why you will not comply, I will consider making an application to my local Court on notice to force compliance, together with costs and compensation.

 

Yours Faithfully

 

 

 

 

Cheers!

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I dont think it changes what you need to say to Past Credit due.

 

However, it might be worth your reminding 1st credit you are not happy with them continuing to process your data in this manner.

 

 

Dear Sir or Madam

 

Account references

 

 

I was rather surprised to receive your letter DATED. It would appear your client failed to advise that on DATE, they issued a statutory demand in respect of this account. It was successfully set asidelink3.gif and costs were awarded to me (obviously if you didnt claim costs then remove that bit).

 

Please be aware that I consider your statement - "in order to avoid further calls and letter, I must pay immediately" - to be a threat of continued harassment, which of course is in breach of OFT debt collectionlink3.gif guidelines.

 

 

I suggest you return this account to your client.

 

Yours etc..

 

PRINT OR SIGN DIGITALLY.

 

 

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