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    • I'm at work now but promise to look in later. Can you confirm how you paid the first invoice?  It wasn't your fault if the signal was so poor and there was no alternative way to pay.  There must be a chance of reversing the charge with your bank.  There are no guarantees but Kev  https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09766749/officers  has never had the backbone to do court so far.  Not even in one case,  
    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
    • They are absolute chuckleheads. You paid but because you entered a different car park site also belonging to them they are pursuing you despite them knowing what you had done. It would be very obvious to everyone, including Alliance that your car could not have been in two places at the same time. Thank you for posting the PCN so quickly making it a pity that you appealed since there are so many things wrong with it that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. They rarely accept appeals since that would mean they lose money but they have virtually no chance of beating you in Court. Very unlikely that they will take you to Court given the circumstances. Just in case you didn't out yourself as the driver could you please post up your appeal.
    • Jasowter I hope that common sense prevails with Iceland and the whole matter can be successfully ended. I would perhaps not have used a spell checker just to prove the dyslexia 🙂 though it may have made it more difficult to read. I noticed that you haven't uploaded the original PCN .Might not be necessary if the nes from Iceland is good. Otherwise perhaps you could get your son to do it by following the upload instructions so that we can appeal again with the extra ammunition provided by the PCN. Most of them rarely manage to get the wording right which means that you as the keeper are not liable to pay the charge-only the driver is and they do not know the name and address of the driver. So that would put you both in the clear if the PCN is non compliant.
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Re road v. rail.

 

The answer to which is the best depends on what is being transported and to where. Rail is ideal for large volumes from one place to another e.g. coal from a port to a power station while road is ideal for smaller loads or anything with multiple drops.

 

What is interesting is where rail is used for the main trunk section with road for the ends of the journey - Tesco have really gone for this.

 

I also have a number of clichés which can be challenged (please note most are very tongue in cheek):

  • All French cars are unreliable
  • All German cars are driven aggressively
  • VWs are always reliable
  • Only Rovers get HGF
  • Only pensioners drive Yarises
  • Only footballers drive Ferraris and Bentley Continentals
  • Fords are made in the UK
  • All BMWs, VWs, Mercedes and Audis are made in Germany
  • All vans are white
  • Audis have a manufacturing defect in their windscreens that makes 3cm look like a safe gap to the car in front
  • Chavs and Barry Boys know more about car styling with their stick on stuff than the styling departments of major companies

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=Andrew-P Re road v. rail.

 

 

 

I also have a number of clichés which can be challenged (please note most are very tongue in cheek):

 

A great list but they aren't all cliches:

 

All French cars are unreliable - I would defy anyone to prove otherwise

 

Fords are made in the UK - And the same for Range Rovers

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All French cars are unreliable - I would defy anyone to prove otherwise

 

Fair enough - my Dad once had a Renault which made BL products look like masterpieces of quality workmanship

 

Fords are made in the UK - And the same for Range Rovers

 

I thought they were - so curious now - where are they made overseas? (I know they are going to be made in China, Defenders have been made all over the place and Freelanders are made in India but never knew that about the Rangie)

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The Indian company that owns them are building an assembly plant in China. They aren't closing the UK plant, the China one will be to compliment the UK one.

 

In time proven English that says.

 

We are building a plant in China and when that is up and running and we see that it cost us half as much to build in China as it does in the UK, we will shut the UK plant.

 

I would even put money on the operation in the UK being gone within 5 years.

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How on earth did we get from grumpy old men to road v rail then on to car manufacturing???? My initial post was supposed to inspire, in a joking fashion, reference to a certain small blue pill sometimes not readily available to old men, thus making them grumpy LOL LOL.

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Quite willing to defy you Conniff. Hard evidence is on my drive for you to see. 10 years, 250,000 miles and absolutely zero breakdowns.

 

As regards Range Rovers etc................you could not be further from the truth.

 

There are those who know and those who think they know. What's happening is actually good news for the UK for now and the foreseeable future.

 

Heathen!

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How on earth did we get from grumpy old men to road v rail then on to car manufacturing???? My initial post was supposed to inspire, in a joking fashion, reference to a certain small blue pill sometimes not readily available to old men, thus making them grumpy LOL LOL.

 

Am in the eastern territories next week and second week of Jan scania (take note Conniff). How many would you like bringing back. Apparently you can get double strength for conniff. He probably needs them.

 

Alternatively I'm back dawn sarf the following week so can collect some of Dell Boys dolls for you both.

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Of course Conniff. I notice a numerous number of studs closing down lately!

 

But of course, when you got yours, I take it you got a warranty with it? Age, mileage etc or you could take the bank fodder approach...........issue proceedings after 14 days irrespective of what has actually happened.

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Had a day off so went to Tesco's new store in an effort to convince SWMBO that itmight be cheaper than using the local Waitrose. Had lunch in the cafe and ordered a burger. The waitress asked if I wanted anything on it. I said a fiver each way............er didn't go down too well.............think we'll stick to Waitrose!!

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I believe that.

 

Anyway what did you get a day off from? don't say you couldn't get to work in the snow. People today, when I was you age I would walk 25 miles to work, do 2 mens jobs, (in the rain) and then walk 35 miles back home via the local town where I got me an oggy for my tea.

 

PS I forgot, and all for tuppence a week

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Just fancied a day off from the last two weeks extrenuous efforts to keep the customer satisfied. Nothing to do with the smattering of snow. And what you describe is very true. One boss I had said ishelios is in then you all should be in.................and Iwas commuting 100 miles each way then!!

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Wish some of the ar--hol-- using the A92 today had taken the day off. Grid lock and mega queues caused by incompetent drivers who obviously had no idea how to drive on snow. 2hours to get out of Morrisons car park then driving at 10mph on the main road. All on black roads.!!!!!!!!!!

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One viewer speaking this morning said "it just came out of nowhere", think again sunshine, it was forecast two days ago, so unplug that crap music emitting from those stupid earplugs and put the news/weather forecast on once in a while.

 

I should add, or maybe boast, we had absolutely nothing, not a single flake of snow or a hint of frost. If you did, serves you right for living where you do . :)

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I believe that.

 

Anyway what did you get a day off from? don't say you couldn't get to work in the snow. People today, when I was you age I would walk 25 miles to work, do 2 mens jobs, (in the rain) and then walk 35 miles back home via the local town where I got me an oggy for my tea.

 

PS I forgot, and all for tuppence a week

 

 

 

You think that's bad...

 

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Ooooh, I love that sketch! 'I had to get up at 10 o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to sleep!'.

 

Quality! :-D

"Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me". Martin Niemöller

 

"A vital ingredient of success is not knowing that what you're attempting can't be done. A person ignorant of the possibility of failure can be a half-brick in the path of the bicycle of history". - Terry Pratchett

 

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Anyone seen heliosuk, he can't still be in Tesco shopping can he?

 

So he went on a long weekend to Cornwall and the car broke down. It's a darn long walk home especially carrying the misses bags.

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I like an Indian now and then. I remember years ago with a mate we had an Indian and then half a mile down the street saw a Chinese so popped in there and had another meal.

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