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Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
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Please help me, We have been claiming tax credits for the last 11/12 years and have never declared my partners income. last friday the dreaded letter appeared in the post, advising that the income didnt match up and they are doing a enquiry on my 2010/11 claim, they have not asked me to send in any details just that if i dont phone them before the 7th October they will amend my award with the details they hold and will have to pay a penalty.....also on the letter it states if they may prosecute, i know what i have done is stupid but i really do not want me or my partner to go to prison i am so frightened of losing my kids........could some one please give me some advice on what i should do ? i am really scared and dont think i can cope any longer.....i have been working it out and i think i have been overpayed by £80,000 please please help :(

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Welcome to the site.

The CAG does not condone nor support fraud or dishonesty,but we are not here to be condemning nor to be acting as Judge and Jury.

 

You are admitting that you failed to provide info which would have affected your award,and in all likelyhood there will be more coming out if they are minded to go into the former years.

Personally I would suggest that you co-operate fully with them and take some advice from an external agency.

The important thing is to try to mitigate any outcome by way of punishment.

If you hold your hands up and co-operate this will count for a lot.

There is not really much more I can say than that.

I am sure others will be along to offer thoughts.

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Hi vinnie,

Are there any mitigating factors that you could ask the tax credit office to take into account? Did you for example think that you did not have to declare your partners income because you were making the claim.

Is your partner actually living with you?

Do either you or your partner have any disabilities ?

As Martin says ring the tax credit office and be honest with them

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There are some info packs here in pdf which you might like to look at.

 

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcredits/forms-and-leaflets/leaflets.htm

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Hi vinnie,

Are there any mitigating factors that you could ask the tax credit office to take into account? Did you for example think that you did not have to declare your partners income because you were making the claim.

Is your partner actually living with you?

Do either you or your partner have any disabilities ?

As Martin says ring the tax credit office and be honest with them

 

My partner does and always has lived me, just that i have never declared her income.....i feel sick and so ashamed......i have not even told my partner yet as i know it will break her with the thought of us being put away and our children taken away i dont think she will be able to cope.....we have already been through a rough time over the years losing our house and recently we have had death threats which the police are dealiing with, i was off work last year through anxiety and depression.....i dont know where to start i dont if i should wait for them to start the enquiry which is tommorow and when they ask questiion is to give them what they want....i am so scared.

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I can't do much more than add my advice to the others - ring the tax credit office NOW, don't wait until they come back to you, that will just make it worse.

 

Confess to them just as you have here. If you lie or cover things up, again that will make it worse because once they are on to you, they will uncover it all.

 

There is little chance of your partner going to prison but you could and your best chance of avoiding that is to be fully open now.

 

We have so little detail that it is not possible to know whether your £80,000 calculation is accurate, but all we can do is advise you to make that call NOW.

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Hi again Vinnie,

From what you say, it appears that you were under extreme stress.....did you visit your GP at thae time? The reason i ask is that you may be able to ask the tax credit office to take your mental health into account in respect of any non declaration.

If worst comes to worst, you will have to pay it back under a time to pay arrangement. So don't worry about going to prision etc, they're not going to do that.

Ring them, see what they say and then post back here for advice.

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If worst comes to worst, you will have to pay it back under a time to pay arrangement. So don't worry about going to prision etc, they're not going to do that.

 

Can't they also recover some of the repayment from future tax credits?

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Thank you everyone for taking the time out to respond....I feel like i want to give up, just so scared of going to court and being sent down and to see the look of my 2 children....I really dont know what to do for the best, does anyone know what sort of sentance i would get for this ie time in prison.....i know what i have done is wrong and i am so ashamed will not be able to look a member of my family in there eyes again....given the amount of money overpayed i cant seeing them doing anything but prosecuiting me i just feel so alone at the moment and keep thinking will it be for the best for me to diassappear but then i am thinking of my children :(

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I'm beginning to doubt that this is genuine. We have all told you that the only thing to do is ring them immediately and be open and honest and it is unlikely that they would want you in prison costing the taxpayer even more money than you already have, but you still keep posting the same things. Just get on the 'phone before it is too late.

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Hello there. I think you should just ring and get this over with. You can't feel any worse than you do, and you might feel a bit better afterwards. As someone already said, you will look better if you don't just wait for them.

 

I think the compliance people are the ones to go for, because they will have your file. Have their letter in front of you so you can quote the reference.

 

Then come back and tell us how you got on. Good luck,

 

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Hi

 

Can I just point out that Child Tax Credit and Working Tax credit came into existence from April 2003.

 

Family Credits ran from April 1986 to March 1999

Working Families Tax Credit ran from April 1999 to March 2003

Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit started April 2003

 

So HMRC will investigate from April 2003 . They many just be looking at 2010/2011 .

 

 

Regards Ruby.

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Hi

 

Can I just point out that Child Tax Credit and Working Tax credit came into existence from April 2003.

 

Family Credits ran from April 1986 to March 1999

Working Families Tax Credit ran from April 1999 to March 2003

Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit started April 2003

 

So HMRC will investigate from April 2003 . They many just be looking at 2010/2011 .

 

 

Regards Ruby.

 

Hi RubyWhat do you suggest ? i have a feeling when they realise that i lied about my income for 10/11 they will check into my current and past credits......i dont know if to own up now or wait till they write back to me....as in the letter they have not asked me to call them all it states is if i dont call them by the 7th October they will amend my claim with the information they hold and i may be liable for a penalty also it states if they feel as if i have commmited a criminal offence they may do a criminal investigation and prosecute....i am so worried. I dont want to incriminate myself any further :(

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Hi

 

To be honest I wouldn't suggest you lie to them.

 

What Dates has the letter stated ?.

 

 

Regards Ruby .

 

Hi RubyThey state they are looking into 10/11 claim, they gave me the income i had declared and then put the income that i didnt declare. Shall i just wait to see what they do next as it states in the letter if i disagree then call them by the 7th october and if they dont hear from me they wil go of the income they have and may charge a penalty...i dont know what to do

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Hello again. Well, you only have the rest of this afternoon to decide and then I guess things will take their course. You've had a lot of advice here, has it helped at all?

 

Fwiw, I personally wouldn't lie and I wouldn't expect them not to uncover more if they start digging. If it were me, I'd try to gain some sort of credibility by co-operating.

 

My best, HB

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Hello again.

 

In case it helps, here is what the HMRC website says about investigations. It does mention a possible reduction in any penalty for co-operating.

 

My best, HB

 

Types of fraud investigations

 

When the Tax Credit Office discovers a case of fraud they can:

 

  • charge a financial penalty
  • prosecute

There are two types of investigation they can use to deal with tax credit fraud:

 

  • civil investigations
  • criminal investigations

Civil investigations

 

The aim of a civil investigation is to get back any tax credits payments that have been falsely claimed through fraud, along with any interest. The Tax Credit Office will also charge a financial penalty. A civil investigation does not prosecute.

The Tax Credit Office will offer a person the chance to co-operate with them and tell them all the facts. This is known as making a full disclosure. To encourage someone to co-operate with them, they’ll consider lowering their penalty. The amount they’ll lower it by depends on why the penalty's being charged:

 

  • if it's for giving wrong information they’ll reduce it by up to 50 per cent
  • if it's for not telling them about a change in circumstances, the amount they’ll reduce it by depends on if it's the first time it's happened and the amounts involved

When the Tax Credit Office is sure the person responsible has told them all the facts about the fraud, they’ll work out how much the person has to pay.

Tax credit penalties

Criminal investigations

 

The Tax Credit Office tries to deal with tax credit fraud using civil investigations whenever possible. They’ll only use criminal investigations in very serious cases where:

 

  • they want to send a strong message to stop other people from trying the same thing
  • the person has acted in a way that makes a criminal investigation the only option

Serious cases include:

 

  • organised tax credit fraud
  • where false statements have been made
  • where fake documents have been given to the Tax Credit Office
  • where people claiming tax credit have hidden information from the Tax Credit Office or misled them on purpose
  • where someone's carried out the same type of offence before
  • where there's proof that Tax Credit Office staff have been assaulted or threatened
  • where people have pretended to be their employees

More useful links

 

Learn more about reporting benefit theft on the Directgov website

 

More about crime, justice and the law on the Directgov website

HM Revenue & Customs criminal investigation policy

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HiThanks for all your advice, I have spoken to a lawyer this afternoon who is going to be taking over my case and he has advised for me not to speak to tax credits, as they will deal with it for me on my behalf. So hopefully i might now be able to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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does your solicitor specialise in social security cases? or criminal cases?

 

the only reason i ask is that in my experience you are better to get a specialist social security solicitor, as criminal solicitors can sometimes give poor advice on the best way to deal with social security issues

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It says on the HMRC if you tell them everything they will not bring criminal charges, so why esculate it to a criminal case by keeping stum and employ a criminal lawer who'll makes loads out of a criminal case?

 

I thought your main worry was going to prison. You won't go to prison for a civil case but you can for a criminal.

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It says on the HMRC if you tell them everything they will not bring criminal charges, so why esculate it to a criminal case by keeping stum and employ a criminal lawer who'll makes loads out of a criminal case?

 

I thought your main worry was going to prison. You won't go to prison for a civil case but you can for a criminal.

 

Hi Vinni, was. Just wondering if you had heard anything from the tax credits???? I have just received a letter daying I am being reviewed for 2010/2011 because the income is not matching!!!!! I am now worried sick about it all!!!! Should I call them or wait for the 25th of Oct I just don't know what to do?????any advise would be great!!!!

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