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    • Well I sent them the letter of claim, the only responses so far was a few emails reopening the claims on the parcels where they asked for information such as proof of value (which I get) but other things like photos of the parcels, which I haven't got as I never took photos of them. It's been well over the 14 days since I sent the letter now anyway, so what do you think I should do now?
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    • Since you were stopped at the time there is no requirement for the police give you anything there and then or to send you anything before they have decided how to deal with the offence.  They have three choices: Offer you a course Offer you a fixed penalty (£100 and three points) Prosecute you in court  The only option that has a formal time limit is (3). They must begin court proceedings within six months of the date of the alleged offence. Options (1) and (2) have no time limit but since the only alternative the police have if you decline those offers is (3) they will not usually offer a course beyond three months from the date of the offence and will not usually offer a fixed penalty beyond four months from that date. This is so as to allow time for the driver to accept and comply with their offer and to give them the time to go to option (3) if he declines or ignores it.  Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, the action they take will usually be in accordance with the National Police Chiefs' Council's guidance on speeding enforcement. In a 40mph limit this is as follows Up to 45mph - no action. Between 46mph and 53mph - offer a course Between 54mph and 65mph - offer a fixed penalty Over 65mph - prosecution in court So you can see that 54mph should see you offered a fixed penalty. Three weeks is not overly long for a fixed penalty offer to arrive. As well as that, there has been Easter in that period which will have slowed things down a bit. However, I would suggest that if it gets to about two months from the offence date and you have still heard nohing, I would contact the ticket office for the area where you were stopped to see if anything has been sent to you. Of course this raises the danger that you might be "stirring the hornets' nest". But in all honesty, if the police have decided to take no action, you jogging their memory should not really influence them. The bigger danger, IMHO, is that your fixed penalty offer may have been sent but lost and if you do not respond it will lapse. This will see the police revert to option (3) above. Whilst there is a mechanism in these circumstances  to persuade the court to sentence you at the fixed penalty level (rather than in accordance with the normal guidelines which will see a harsher penalty), it relies on them believing you when you say you did not received an offer. In any case it is aggravation you could well do without so for the sake of a phone call, I'd enquire if it was me.  I think I've answered all your questions but if I can help further just let me know. Just a tip - if you are offered a fixed penalty be sure to submit your driving licence details as instructed. I've seen lots of instances where a driver has not done this. There will be no reminder and no second chance; your £100 will be refunded and the police will prosecute you through the courts.
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They are acting for Aintree and are denying they are fixed penalties.

 

Have a look at this!

 

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=9867

 

Mainly this sentence. "It facilitates a penalty being applied to motorists who transgress our parking rules"

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I have a pic of their tickets and it clearly states FIXED PENALTY NOTICE in a little yellow sticky bag!!

 

I have their board of governers meeting on 24/01/07 printed out Esmerobbo and will highlight their statement about penalties!!

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Doh- hit send too soon!! So I take the letter he got today to the hearing with us and ask how a private co can impose a penalty- what was the case law- was it Dunlop v someone!! I will have to read up on the laws me thinks :???:

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In your case its different as you never entered a car park where the signs are that they are relying on, what is there to say what any parking restrictions there are between where you drove in to where you parked?

Then the argument is you parked on DYL which they chose to paint on the road. It is common knowledge that a Blue badge holder can park on a DYL if there is no other restrictions in force. Then you have the point of the security man telling you to park where you did. Them asking you to prove which security man told you to park is ridiculous how would your dad know his name?

 

I would be interested to know how they know disabled bays were available. Having been there 100s of times myself and having a blue badge I have never found one empty.

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I've never noticed any signs before the ticket but there are some as you drive in past the taxi rank- how the hell you're supposed to read them whilst driving and having 10 cars up your bum I don't know. Gonna drop my mum off on Wednesday armed with my camera!! :-)

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I've never noticed any signs before the ticket but there are some as you drive in past the taxi rank- how the hell you're supposed to read them whilst driving and having 10 cars up your bum I don't know. Gonna drop my mum off on Wednesday armed with my camera!! :-)

 

Watch where you park!!!!:jaw:

 

The first sign I don't know if you have seen it is as you drive in from Lower lane is set back about 10 metres back from the road and 6 metres up a lamp post on the right. Get a picture of them so we can see what they actually offer or warn!

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Went today armed with camera- got photos of signs which can't be read even by zooming in. Got a photo of the middle entrance sign as we were driving past- needless to say it's impossible to see what it says as your driving. I'm sure the signs have been changed cos they did seem a lot higher up- prob about 8-9 feet from floor!!

 

Got pics of their work vehicles parked in junction box, double yellows and totally blocking the highway- they can't have 1 rule for them can they - preaching to people about parking properly whilst there own workforce don't adhere to their rules??

 

More pics of their Fixed PENALTY Notices!!

 

Was also going to ask them for mugshots of their parking attendants if they want him to prove he was indeed told to park on the kerb!! Like that's gonna happen:razz:

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Judge granted set-aside:-D full defence done!!! Just have to wait for court date now. Thankyou everybody esp Al27 and esmerobbo- couldn't have done that defence without your support and advice:-)

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Got court hearing soon!!! The judge has recommended mediation and Trethowans have agreed so that is going ahead real soon:wink: -was going to suggest we'd pay the £25 penalty if they pay our costs- it's a compromise isn't it!!:lol:

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Got court hearing soon!!! The judge has recommended mediation and Trethowans have agreed so that is going ahead real soon:wink: -was going to suggest we'd pay the £25 penalty if they pay our costs- it's a compromise isn't it!!:lol:

 

Stand your ground as it was an "invoice" and not a ticket. Their T & Cs probably refer to a ticket and not an invoice. Good luck.

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Cheers surfer01 :-) Sailor Sam the local paper aren't interested as somebody else has already informed them of what's going on and they don't want to know :-(

DBC- it's them that are saying it's a penalty- in their little yellow envelopes and their board of governers meetings!! We all know private co's can't charge penalties:-D

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Sailor Sam the local paper aren't interested as somebody else has already informed them of what's going on and they don't want to know :-(

 

Indeed local paper and local radio have chosen to ignore this disgraceful waste of money by the hospital trust. £120,000 odd paid to their solicitors in the last two years! I was thinking of parking up at the hospital and putting the reg number of a well known local radio phone in presenter, or the news editor of the local paper on my car!

See if getting an invoice would wake them up to this operation!

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