andrew hart/hartinvestments/paydayoverdraft.com/Wage Payments and Payday Loans Ltd - claimform - PDL i know nothing about - scam? **Claim Discontinued**

[citizenB]

Have unapproved a few posts made by teaboy. Anyone who quoted a post will have also received a CAGbotting.. apologies for that.

 

If and only if, admin confirm that there is no issue with those posts, they will be restored.

[twoman]

Ads,

Do you have a copy of the e-mail that was sent as you will be able to check the address as Cerbs quoted in an earlier post.

You really need to follow through the advice given about contacting the police etc.

Mr.Hart is a man of desperation in my opinion and the only way to put this to bed is to follow the advice given as the more evidence you have of fraudulent claims etc the easier the court case will be and not forgetting the bigger the claim could be... and why not for all the hassle and grief Mr.Hart has put you through.

[noomill060]

ads- on the email there will be a button that says "include headers" or something like that. The headers will include the IP address from which it was sent

[noomill060]

And for God's sake, report the fraudulent use of your paypal to the police.

 

teaboy- no one cares, this isnt about you. Start your own thread if you want to witter away off topic.

[ads_uk]

I have never recieved any email, all i had wasphone call from the DC.. no copy of the email no nothing,,

[teaboy2]

I personally would make a complaint against the officer that gave you the warning on the grounds you were not responsible for the email nor do you have such an email account and as such the email needs to be investigated so the true offender can be found and dealt with appropriately. And also ask for a copy of the alleged email and details as to the senders IP address so you can present it in court since there is currently court proceedings ongoing and it is therefore relevant to the court case.

[Revenant]

The Police Officer's that you spoke to have acted like Judge and Jury found you guilty WITHOUT presenting you with any evidence thereby not giving you a chance to defend yourself and to me that warrants a complaint as it goes against what we are meant to perceive of our "Justice system" . . . . innocent before being proved guilty eh :?:

 

As the Court case is still live all the relevant information re this alleged threatening email should be presented to them and the good thing is as you've been told not to contact Mr H this will go in your favour because if he keeps contacting you and getting 'rsy because you don't reply I think you'd be quite within your rights to get back in touch with the CID and get them to tell him to back off and wait till August to make his point in Court

 

Regards

 

R

[DonkeyB]

I personally would make a complaint against the officer that gave you the warning on the grounds you were not responsible for the email nor do you have such an email account and as such the email needs to be investigated so the true offender can be found and dealt with appropriately. And also ask for a copy of the alleged email and details as to the senders IP address so you can present it in court since there is currently court proceedings ongoing and it is therefore relevant to the court case.

 

Agree. You must not let this slip by uncontested.

 

Ditto Revenant’s points.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

A formal police warning cannot be made on the phone, a senior officer has

to authorise such action, to act on what seems to be a vexatious complaint

is totally out of a DC's remit.

Any further activity must be reported to the PCA and the Commisioner, don't

bother with the locals any more.

Brig.

[unclebulgaria67]

I would be surprised if the call came from a Police Office, as they refused to provide their number, which they have to do on request. To not do so, is actually a disciplinary offence.

[Huff&Puff]

The call is kosha. Have spoken to the met and it is a cid office etcAs she gave me a warning the matter is closed

 

If that is so, then I think you should make a complaint to a senior officer that you want the matter investigated properly. As the others have said, it is an easy enough matter to trace the origins of an email. I don't even know what a police "warning" given over the phone means, it sounds to me that it has a very dubious legal basis. I certainly don't think you should accept it.

 

Have they actually confirmed that this call came from a genuine Detective Constable, or merely that the number belongs to the MET?

[noomill060]

"She gave me a warning the matter is closed"

 

In other words, this DC told you that the matter is closed.

 

So the matter is closed. In other words they arent taking Hart's complaint any further.

 

Clearly they dont take it seriously

 

I can assure you that you didnt get a police warning about anything.

 

The thing that concerns me is why this "DC" mentioned the civil case. WTF is that to do with the cops, and why did this "DC" tell you the civil case had been dropped?

 

As this nonsense happened over the phone, the "DC" had no idea who she was talking to so was in breach of DPA for a start. It all sounds like a load of bollocks, to be honest.

Edited June 29, 2011 by noomill060

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

If that was not a police officer phoning then the misuse of that phone is a serious matter and the

person who made the call has several charges to answer THE POLICE COMPLAINT AUTHORITY IS THE FIRST STOP

not jusr for you ads but it will prevent others being treated the same way.

Brig.

[noomill060]

Like a lot of things in this thread, this just doesnt add up. Its totally insane.

[ads_uk]

Well met have said a letter will be out in the post so the doubters again can start now cooking there humble pie..

Why would I want to make such a story up, I have nothing to achieve from it.

people have seen word for word everything that has been sent to me and submitted by me, Except personal info.

[noomill060]

Im not doubting you, ads, insane things happen all the time.

 

What I cant fathom is why you havent reported the fraud on your Paypal account to the cops.

[DonkeyB]

Good, the letter will give you a reference to counter-complain.

[DonkeyB]

have you reported the abuse to Yahoo yet?

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Never doubted you ads no reason to!!

[noomill060]

I'd like to see a countercomplaint too, donkey.

 

Official letter from the Met confirming all this will be a delight to behold.

[ads_uk]

I want to get the letter first to confirm that it was a yahoo or what ever email account its supposed to have come from. I was that annoyed and frustrated at the call as it did not seem to make any sense, I really didnt catch the domain but I am sure she said ymail (only heard of gmail till then) but did ask her to repeat it.

As for the telephone number, I think you misunderstood what I said.. They called my mobile number and Unknown came on the screen. She provided me with the telephone number & crime number when I requested it, hence why we have tied it down to Muswell Hill and how I called them back.

 

Now again as for the email, I have not recieved an email nor sent an email to anybody..... The email was sent by Mr H to the police in his claim for harrassment/threatening behaviour - hence again my comment of he now looks the victim..

 

Until I recieve the letter from the police I will not send anything to anyone (giving it 3days) then I will send something next week if I could request some help when I set about writing something...

The chappy from the Met I spoke to did say and confirm to me about the DC saying the court case is ceased/closed but then said (he seemed a quite intelligent chap - mainly cos he took the initiative to call the number whilst i was on the line!!) from submission of withdrawing a claim it can take a while for the paper work to filter through.... that being said I am still treating this as an open case until otherwise.

[defizr]

Excuse me for butting in but what number did you call the Met on? Was it the same number as the woman 'DC' gave to you or a different number?

[ads_uk]

different number that I got off the internet 02072301212

[unclebulgaria67]

I have not disbelieved anything you have said, just queried the way that the Police Officer had performed their job. Sounds below par work to me. They can't really just phone someone, tell them that a complaint has been made against them and that it had been closed. Or is this a case of the Police not being too bothered and just looking to save work.

 

When you get the letter remember to ask them whether the complaint would come up in any CRB check made by anyone.

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

CRB records will only show offences where an arrest is made, or a caution is formally administered,

by an authorised officer.