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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Hi all,

 

Out of the blue today, I received a letter from a DCA called Fredrickson International Limited, and all it says is the following:-

 

"Dear X

 

We have been instructed to collect the outstanding balance on the above account.

 

We have made tracing enquiries for confirmation of your current place of residence and information has been received confirming that your address details have changed to this address.

 

Please contact us immediately on 0845 0349711 quoting the above reference."

 

It seems a bit strange to have received this, it DOESN'T mention who the debt is owed to, and the reference number on the letter has no relevance whatsoever! I'm not going to call them as I don't want to open a can of worms!

 

I do owe Barclays a sum of money for a loan which a PREVIOUS debt collector tried to collect about 2 years ago, but they couldn't supply me with a copy of my signed credit agreement, so they wrote back saying they had closed the case.

 

I also owed Smile a sum of money for a credit card, but haven't paid that for about 4 years or so nor have I ever heard from anyone chasing any payments!

 

So what advice do you guys offer? Shall I just ignore it and see where it goes?

 

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Lee

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Ignore and wait for the next letter. The next letter should tell you who the original creditor is and then you can decide what to do next.

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leehuk1982................Hi.............Uncle advise fine,next letter should produce OC,if you are feeling Fredrickson are a Pain in Ars...............send them a letter along the lines of their 1st two paragraphs ( I have been instructed to collect the outstanding balance on the above account) it usually stops them in their tracks,might even send you a cheque.................................FS

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Keep a diary of events, and file everything including the envelopes they send their rubbish in, as it is Freds you should expect to receive some irrelevant nonsense from their side kick Bryan 'bloody' Carter.

 

If they can't be bothered to tell you what the debt actually relates to, then firmly ignore the fools, you should also make a complaint to the OFT/TS via http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/contact for once again, failing miserably, to inform you of the reason for contacting you.

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Hi all,

 

I've received a 2nd letter from Fredrickson International Ltd, this time it actually has details of who the debt is owed to! Here's what it says:-

 

"Re Brand/Product: Additions Direct

Balance: £800 (just over!)

Our Client: Phoenix Recoveries (UK) Ltd S.a.r.l

 

Dear Mr X,

 

DO NOT IGNORE - IMMEDIATE PAYMENT REQUIRED

 

We are instructed by Phoenix Recoveries (UK) Ltd S.a.r.l to collect the above debt which is now seriously overdue.

 

You have failed to pay the balance of £800 (just over!) which remains outstanding despite previous repeated requests for payment. Our client now requires payment in full to avoid further action.

 

YOU MUST CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY ON 0845 0349701 to discuss the matter further.

 

Payment should be made to Fredrickson International Ltd quoting our full reference number. For your convenience, payment can be accepted by Maesto, Delta, Credit Card or Cheque.

 

This is a serious matter and you may wish to seek independent legal advice."

 

 

Now.....I do recall owing Additions Direct Catalogue a sum of money, but can't remember how much! It's been a good 3 or 4 years since I made any payment! What steps should I take next? I can afford to pay it (on my hubby's credit card!!), but of course I'd rather tell them to politely F Off if I can!! What should I respond with?

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Lee

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Send them the prove it letter from the templates, it sounds like their standard pishing exercise.... Fredricksons are one of the firms which specialise in nearly statute barred debts.

 

You need to head the letters "I do not acknowledge any alleged debt to you or your agents or clients...."

 

Which letter in the templates section should I use?

 

Thanks,

Lee

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I got one of them letters from Fredricksons yesterday, re Additions catalogue. The must be starting at the begining of the alphabet, either that or they can't get past "a". I would like to be a fly on the wall in the morning when they receive the "account in serious dispute" letter. Moorcroft could not provide a CCA in 2008, so I doubt if they will be able to now!

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You will find Phoenix Recoveries SARL UK Ltd are the subject of huge threads on this site,they are based in Luxembourg and use companies like Fredrickson to do the dirty work, Sillygirl and Bazooka are right,tell Fredrickson to prove it,head your letter I do not acknowledge any debt to Phoenix Recoveries I have never heard of this company there has been no communication between us and I only have your word that you represent them,which you will understand as there are so many [problem] letters and emails in existence I need absolute proof of the existence of this debt and the company you claim to represent....................FS

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You will find Phoenix Recoveries SARL UK Ltd are the subject of huge threads on this site,they are based in Luxembourg and use companies like Fredrickson to do the dirty work, Sillygirl and Bazooka are right,tell Fredrickson to prove it,head your letter I do not acknowledge any debt to Phoenix Recoveries I have never heard of this company there has been no communication between us and I only have your word that you represent them,which you will understand as there are so many [problem] letters and emails in existence I need absolute proof of the existence of this debt and the company you claim to represent....................FS

 

Thanks for the info - but is there a letter within the template section that I should state the above on? Or should I literally just knock something basic up?

 

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Lee

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Is this the one I should send?

 

Regards,

Lee

 

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

You have contacted me/us regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by myself/ourselves.

 

I/we would point out that I/we have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to (insert company name).

 

I am/we are familiar with the Office of Fair Trading debt collectionGuidance which states that it unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question.

 

I/we would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods.

 

Furthermore ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment.

 

I/we would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above account unless you can provide evidence as to my/our liability for the debt in question.

 

I/we await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the trading standards department and consider informing the OFT of your actions.

 

I/we look forward to your reply.

 

Yours faithfully

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Hi

that is the one to send. Don't forget-Recorded Delivery

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Last question before I send this off tomorrow...

 

The address at the top of the letter from Fredrickson is a PO Box address - I can't send a recorded delivery letter to a PO Box address can I?? There is a registered address at the bottom of the letter which is in London (whereas the PO Box address is in Surrey) - so should I send it to the registered office address instead?

 

Thank you all so far for your help!

 

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Lee

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I have sent plenty of letters to PO boxes so don't worry about it. The post office will do it by the post code anyway.

 

I'm sending them a letter tomorrow too so they'll both land on the table at the same time.:-)

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I'm sending them a letter tomorrow too so they'll both land on the table at the same time.:-)

 

Looks like they are going to busy because I sent one off yesterday.

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