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Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. 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( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. 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WHERE IS THE SLANDER IN THIS POST?

 

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WE ALL KNOW THE Bailiffs are 2 faced **** and unless you have witnessed your FIL in his day to day duties cannot comment on his demeanour when out in the field.

 

there is plenty of documented evidence supporting my quote on Bailiffs in these forums i did not refer to your FIL i referred to Bailiffs.......and supported the fact that unless you or anyone else in that matter had witnessed your personal relative in the field cannot comment on his demeanour......................................................:rolleyes:

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Whatever the reason, it is always sad when Caggers stoop to personal insults. Not what I either expect on here nor wish to read on here. It would have been better to take arguments elsewhere and leave those expecting a thread entitled 'Beat the Bailiff on TV' actually to be about 'Beat the Bailiff on TV' ...

Humph!

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i agree KELCOU should i return the compliment and report MRSHED for the slander of me, on two occasions

im a moron

im slanderous

 

dont think so as there is nothing to be gained by such action

 

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Absolutely - and it is, believe me, a source of much frustration to "proper" baliffs.

 

My FIL is a council tax baliff, and he gets incredibly annoyed at the bad name that baliffs have.

 

OK - they are never going to win popularity contests, but he is sick of all the bad baliffs not adhering to the law and giving the group as a whole a terrible name.

 

I know that he for one, is polite, courteous, and will always give the opportunity to resolve another way. Obviously sometimes he has no option but to seize.

Surely he should not be discussing this with you these are peoples personal matters

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forget the cost of it for now..

 

Did anyone else observe the blantant lies and law/regulation breaking taking place ?

 

 

Mr JBW ... clamped a car... had no idea if it was the right car, the served the final demand.... which should of been served before car was clamped should it not... then said ok I will seize the car, which he had already done ! LOL

 

 

Also, are they or are they not allowed to take sofa ? they do on the programme ?

From a bailiffs point of view, although he may well arrive at your home in a removals type of vehicle, he really doesn’t want basic household furniture. This is because; the resale value at public auction is very low. Additionally, health and safety regulations commonly prevent electrical goods from being seized, in the same way that fireproofing regulations prevent soft furnishings, such as sofa’s etc actually being taken.

A bailiff is only allowed to take sufficient goods to cover the outstanding bill and his costs. For Child Support Agency arrears there are different items that the bailiff can and cannot take. Please refer to the Child Support Agency part of our site for further details.

Statutory Regulations state that the following items are exempt and must not be taken.

• "Such tools, books, vehicles and other items of equipment as are necessary for use personally in employment, business or vocation"

• "Such clothing, bedding, furniture, household equipment and provisions as are necessary for satisfying basic domestic needs of the person and family".

Because the above list is so vague, and not very specific, we have reviewed over 75 contracts between local authorities and their relevant bailiff companies to see what items are listed by the majority of councils as being exempt. These items are as follows:

• Goods of minimal or no resale value

• Food items, cooking utensils

• Items that would leave family unable to prepare a hot meal.

• Heating appliances

• Children’s items, toys, prams (but computers and bikes can be taken)

• Disability items to be used to care for the sick.

• Medical aids or medical equipment.

• Items purchased using money from Social Fund.

• Refrigerators.

• The main form of cooking: if you have a cooker and microwave, the bailiff could take the microwave. If you only have a microwave then this must not be seized.

• Washing machine, vacuum cleaner.

• Personal items: such as family photographs/pictures.

• Items of minimal value, and or broken items.

• Goods either rented, or hired.

Items that are actually attached are also exempt from seizure. This would include built in ovens, flat screen televisions or stereo systems attached to the wall.

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Reported posts acknowledged.

Can we settle this down-trading personal insults doesnt do anything to benefit those trying to get something from this discussion.

We all know its an emotive subject where we will never see harmonious responses-yet some of the points being made are worthy of discussion and can be done in a civilised way-Posts that sidetrack from that will have to be removed.

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Hi sorry to have to reply to you on here but your inbox is full

 

you have implied that a trade of personal insults were exchanged.

i disagree i traded no "personal" insult whatsoever. i did however recieve a personal insult or 2

Please ammend the statement you posted as this implies i personally insulted someone.

if you still feel i personally insulted someone explain who.............and how please

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K3NNY, you can relax. Martin3030 made no mention of anyone in particular. His post, therefore, was aimed at all of us. It is simply a reminder to us not to go too far. That's all. :)

Regards.

Rae.

 

Now, about that bailiff beating a tv...

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Whatever the reason, it is always sad when Caggers stoop to personal insults. Not what I either expect on here nor wish to read on here. It would have been better to take arguments elsewhere and leave those expecting a thread entitled 'Beat the Bailiff on TV' actually to be about 'Beat the Bailiff on TV' ...

Humph!

Rae.

 

Thank you Kelcou.

 

I don't know what to do about everybody's debt but my point is that getting bailiffs to sell stuff that (A) doesn't go anywhere near paying the debt and (B) leaves the debtor having to get more credit to replace the stuff is rubbish. Only the bailiffs and the auctioneers win.

 

MrShed has convinced me we must have some bailiffs who might be useful some times but I still think that almost everything bailiffs do makes things worse for everyone.

 

Can we discuss this instead of insulting people.

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K3NNY - I dont even think that deserves an answer - I'm sure a number of creditors (financial institutions AND otherwise dont forget) would disagree, and rightly so.

 

Do financial institutions really get paid anything worth the trouble when bailiffs sell stuff? I'm sure they get paid when bailiffs THREATEN to take stuff because people finally pay up even if they have to borrow to do it.

 

Is it civilised to pay bailiffs to take stuff and then pay auctioneers to sell it all for next to nothing? Nobody's said anything to make me think that's honest work.

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Rae.

 

Now, about that bailiff beating a tv...

 

Now I have a vision of one of our nefarious friends doing a Basil Fawlty (John Cleese) does wonders for the start of a Sunday morning.

 

:lol::lol::lol:

 

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Thanks Martin for coming in.

 

Will edit my posts, in heat of the moment.

 

Will continue discussion, just not with the specific poster, apart from responding to a couple of specific points. :)

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Surely he should not be discussing this with you these are peoples personal matters

 

Quite clearly, he doesnt discuss the detail.

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cant resist did you say your current job is advising your colleagues to

" turn the computer off and switch it on again":-(?

 

No - I work in IT but dont deal with computers directly, I am a network security specialist with BSc(Hons) in Computer Science, CCNP, MCSE and ITIL qualifications.

 

Just for the record :)

 

I apologise for calling you a moron. But I reiterate that any such policy such as that you have suggested would never work and is against the best interests of debtors in the long run. Thats the last I will say on that particular subject.

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In any event, lets bring this back on topic.

 

Creditors can get value from goods, but usually you are talking about high value items (obviously) - electrical goods in the main.

 

What I would say is that the debtor has had the option right up until seizure of selling the property themselves and getting market value rates.

 

This isnt to excuse baliffs from underselling, but an portion of this has to lie at the feet of the debtor - had the debt not been ignored, they may have gotten considerably more value for the assets.

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Creditors can get value from goods, but usually you are talking about high value items (obviously) - electrical goods in the main...

 

This isnt to excuse baliffs from underselling, but an portion of this has to lie at the feet of the debtor - had the debt not been ignored, they may have gotten considerably more value for the assets.

 

 

How high value must they be, for goodness sake! If selling people's cars doesn't raise much what else is more valuable?

 

Is it likely that people will get more if they sell their own stuff? Okay so they might get a bit more but is it really going to make much difference? They will still be broke, with empty homes and still owing the creditors a lot.

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i had a bailiff round here once (before i was aware of this site) and only on the doorstep

the bill was for £1200

i offered him a camera and 2 lenses worth £1500 even showed him the reciepts for the goods.....

i showed him the price they were currently being bid at on ebay totalling £1300 mine were in better condition with reciepts and boxes.

was he interested no

he was more interested in taking the tele worth £500 whilst peering through the window and saying i`ll have that off you for starters. and will be getting a locksmith and a van round to break in... what a plonker

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No - I work in IT but dont deal with computers directly, I am a network security specialist with BSc(Hons) in Computer Science, CCNP, MCSE and ITIL qualifications.

 

Just for the record :)

 

I apologise for calling you a moron. But I reiterate that any such policy such as that you have suggested would never work and is against the best interests of debtors in the long run. Thats the last I will say on that particular subject.

 

CCNP, MCSE and ITIL qualifications. my daughter got these at 14 last year in school......its just networking stuff setting up a modem and plugging wires to route a telephone sytem linked to desktops vpn and that isnt it....

The BSC with hons is only a 80 pointer if you have 2 a levels in other subjects.

with my LCG i could sit the exam pass and get the masters with 80 points to spare......

3 year course not impressive............................................................

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i had a bailiff round here once (before i was aware of this site) and only on the doorstep

the bill was for £1200

i offered him a camera and 2 lenses worth £1500 even showed him the reciepts for the goods.....

i showed him the price they were currently being bid at on ebay totalling £1300 mine were in better condition with reciepts and boxes.

was he interested no

he was more interested in taking the tele worth £500 whilst peering through the window and saying i`ll have that off you for starters. and will be getting a locksmith and a van round to break in... what a plonker

 

Was the bailiff ignorant or just trying to make life difficult for you?

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CCNP, MCSE and ITIL qualifications. my daughter got these at 14 last year in school......its just networking stuff setting up a modem and plugging wires to route a telephone sytem linked to desktops vpn and that isnt it....

The BSC with hons is only a 80 pointer if you have 2 a levels in other subjects.

with my LCG i could sit the exam pass and get the masters with 80 points to spare......

3 year course not impressive............................................................

 

K3NNY I dont intend to argue this with you.

 

What I will say is that BSc (Hons) in Computer Science is a 3 year 360 credit course.

 

CCNP is a 2 year, 4 exam course that requires 3 years networking experience before you take it. It also requires a CCNA as a prerequisite, which is in itself a 2 exam, 1-2 year course.

 

MCSE is a 7 exam, 3 year course that requires 2 years of in depth Microsoft Server working before you take it.

 

Modems do not even come into it - we are talking about dynamic switching using STP, dynamic routing using EIGRP, RIP, RIPv2, BGP and IS-IS.

 

We are talking Quality of Service (QoS, ToS, CoS) across a large corporate environment.

 

We are talking VoIP and corporate wireless, using WSDE, WCS and WLCs.

 

We are talking clusters of forests in an Active Directory environment.

 

We are talking about configuration of corporate firewalls, such as MS ISA and ASA/PIX to a high level.

 

Please dont belittle my career and qualifications, it is not appreciated - especially when you do not know what you are talking about. I have worked extremely hard to get the qualifications and career that I have got, and they are not easy or common like you insinuate.

 

I apologised - if you really are as intelligent as you harp on about, you may have had the good grace to call it a day.

 

Alternatively, please prove me wrong and show me the online public portals where your daughters professional body certifications are held.

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All this talk about bailiffs actually removing goods or refusing high value goods amounts to snobbery in my view. I'm feeling distinctly second class in this debate!

Am I the only person that bailiffs have totally refused to remove goods from despite my repeated requests to do so if they so desire? :(

After numerous visits, numerous charges (none ever paid) am I the only one who's home the bailiffs finally were refusing to come into? Please reassure me I don't live in a strange world of my own!

Oh, for the record, I may be impoverished and have nothing of value but I can assure you I don't reside in absolute squalor. And I have a BA (Hons) if that helps...

Rae.

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All this talk about bailiffs actually removing goods or refusing high value goods amounts to snobbery in my view. I'm feeling distinctly second class in this debate!

Am I the only person that bailiffs have totally refused to remove goods from despite my repeated requests to do so if they so desire? :(

After numerous visits, numerous charges (none ever paid) am I the only one who's home the bailiffs finally were refusing to come into? Please reassure me I don't live in a strange world of my own!

Oh, for the record, I may be impoverished and have nothing of value but I can assure you I don't reside in absolute squalor. And I have a BA (Hons) if that helps...

Rae.

 

Hi Kelcou,

 

First and foremost please try not to enter the apparent clash of egos between Kenny and myself :-D its pathetic I'm the first to admit, but I wont allow belittling in that fashion - I think my friends would class it as a "full bite" :D

 

Can you clarify the snobbery comment? I dont understand, perhaps just being stupid.

7 years in retail customer service

 

Expertise in letting and rental law for 6 years

 

By trade - I'm an IT engineer working in the housing sector.

 

Please note that any posts made by myself are for information only and should not and must not be taken as correct or factual. If in doubt, consult with a solicitor or other person of equal legal standing.

 

Please click the star if I have helped!!

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The other thing to remember is that there is a world of difference between a "private" baliff and a court appointed one.

 

Not according to Harrow Council, Newlyn plc and my experience - they have drivers operating as court bailiffs collecting parking fines and calling police for support - which has the full backing, trust and authorisation by the managing director himself AND hmcs.

 

Sickening!

 

We do not need bailiff's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in the same light that wilberforce helped explain to an ignorant government that we will be a better society without slaves, slavery and slavemasters (read Parking Attendents, Bailiff's and Councils)

 

we need to be protected from these evils

 

as for collecting unpaid monies, credit risk calculators & systems are some of the most advanced computer systems. Banks and lenders MUST be wholly responsible in their lending. They charge a huge premium for taking on that risk..... if they lend by calculation, they should not take by force, as the risk and cost of erroneous calculations should be bourne by the risk taker - after all that is what they are paid for!

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