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    • If you have not kept the original PCN you can always send an SAR to Excel and they have to send you all the info they have on you within a month. failure to do so can lead to you being able to sue them for their failure.......................................nice irony.
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    • Hi,   I am not sure if I posted this already here but I don't think I did. I attach a judgement that raises very interesting points IMO. Essentially EVRi did their usual non attendance that we normally see, however the judge (for the first time I've seen in these threads) dismissed the notice and awarded me judgement by default because their notice misses the "confirmation of compliance" paragraph. in and out in 3 minutes (aside from the chat at the end with the judge about his problems with evri) Redacted - evri CPR loss.pdf
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Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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Odd, I made two other replies that haven't appeared. Just as well really as I'm sure they would have been shot down as bigoted, racist, 6-year old rants or something by Hinge & Bracket.

 

Never mind.

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

Don't get me confused with somebody knowledgeable by all those green blobs. I got most of them by making people laugh.

 

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So would we all, but most of us who have been on this thread, and others where you post, don't feel that your kind of debate including sarcasm, which you appear to think is superior to other people's "stupid" remarks, is very kind or very nice.

 

I just don't think it's necessary to be sarcastic, critical or nasty.

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You are of course entitled to your opinions. It would be nice if you could follow what you preach of course. ;-)

 

I am going to ask the site team to split this thread, preferably from where you chose to turn your bile on me and from then on completely derailed this thread. Until then, people had had a debate, heated without a doubt (it usually is when emotions run high) but still a debate. You turned it into something quite different and frankly irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

 

I hope that once that is done, people can go back to a debate on the original subject if they so wish. If you feel that you want to keep bitching at and/or about me, feel free to do so on the new thread. If nothing else, please do so out of the respect YOU profess so loud for these soldiers who were the main topic of this thread. :-|

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I did not turn my bile on you.

 

I just pointed out that it is not nice to be rude, and you keep trying to justify that it is all right to imply that people are stupid and to be sarcastic which you admit you are on many threads.

 

I have not accused anyone of being racist, xenophobic or anything else like that. If you think that qualifies as a heated debate we'll have to agree to differ.

 

You speak about respect. Great. Let's all be respectful of one another, and I would think that means no more sarcasm implying that people are stupid if they happen to disagree, or don't have the knowledge that someone else has on a particular subject but are only posting because they are trying to be helpful.

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]I did not turn my bile on you.
Others will read your posts and make up their own mind on that.

I just pointed out that it is not nice to be rude, and you keep trying to justify that it is all right to imply that people are stupid and to be sarcastic which you admit you are on many threads.
I'd rather be sarcastic than venomous. Hint.

I have not accused anyone of being racist, xenophobic or anything else like that.
Obviously not, since I doubt you would recognise it unless it came from someone a different colour than yours.

 

If you think that qualifies as a heated debate we'll have to agree to differ.

Your prerogative of course.

 

 

You speak about respect. Great. Let's all be respectful of one another, and I would think that means no more sarcasm implying that people are stupid if they happen to disagree, or don't have the knowledge that someone else has on a particular subject but are only posting because they are trying to be helpful.

Actually, I think that respect goes a lot further than this tiny thread and applies to respecting other people's beliefs, ideas, thoughts, however misguided we believe them to be, something which has been sorely missing from this thread, and not by me may I add. ;-) I wish you could see the irony. :-D

 

Bookie out, at least until this thread has been split. ;-)

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Quite frankly I'm appalled by the bitching and rantings on this thread and cannot even begin to comprehend it. I'm glad the thread was split because all the comments on this thread stink of one upmanship.

 

DD, Bookie, surfer and Fred you should all be ashamed, very ashamed :(

 

*BB cowering in the corner 'cos of the in fighting*

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I'm not going to comment on the nature of that thread, what was said and who was and right or wrong, as what do I know. However, I feel justified in knowing that something that was said about somebody was not right.

 

Personally, I'd like to thank the 'vinegar' lady for all she has done on these forums, and she has done so much for me. The same lady who has worked tirelessly on here writing letters for the use of the community (templates) and whom might just write a hum-dinger on the spot for a poster in need. Also, I might mention the 20,000+ posts displaying selflessness, empathy, sympathy, well-reasoned advice and support in helping more members than I can count.

 

It's not even arguable to state that Bookie was here from the start and helped to, with many others, make CAG what it is. To call her a name like that and infer that she is somehow against, or being somehow unhelpful, towards the forum is bonkers. DD, please don't feel the need to compare forums to illustrate a very badly made point.

 

Bookie, IMO, does come across a little strong at times! but it is not her intention to belittle (or whatever was said) - she just cuts to the chase because she is focused and let's face it - she knows her apples!!! (and that doesn't mean she thinks she's a know-it-all either -not that anyone is suggesting that). Sarcasm? Well, I can't live without it so no comment - though this post is free of it.

 

I think that emotion is often lost on here because, even with emoitcons, not all things translate well. I know only a small handful of people know what I'm really like, and admittedly, I was a bit scared of the worm until I met her, but she's the nicest person you could ever hope to meet. I am sure the same is true of the other contributers who I don't know and I'm not saying anything bad about them for that same reason.

 

If anyone thinks I have a 'brown tongue' then sobeit, but I know her quite well and know she doesn't deserve this.

 

I also think that the truth can sometimes be stern, but be viewed as being horrible - when it's not. I have been offended in the past, and taken things personally, when I should not have.

 

I am not attacking you either, DD.

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In all honesty, Bb, I don't think I have anything to feel ashamed of. I got attacked and felt that I had to justify who I am and how I am. Throughout the thread, all I did was try and take the middle of the road and got vilified for it. I expressed my opinions about points of view I despise, at no point did I attack the person(s) expressing those opinions. I presented arguments which played devil's advocate, as I am wont to do, and all I got in return is very personal comments, to which you can see for yourself I did not respond in kind.

 

Furthermore, it was I who asked for the thread to be split that someone else had taken wildly off-topic.

 

So no, I don't think I have anything to be ashamed of, apart from maybe not being able to turn the other cheek. Well, as I have pointed out before, I am no christian, so have no compunction to do so. ;-)

 

Thailand, thanks for the kind words, it's nice to see that some people are happy to see the bigger picture. :-)

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I do see the bigger picture but that's what hurts me. People lose sight of the main goal here just because of an extremist group have gained a bit of publicity but now, justly, have the wrath of the home office to deal with...

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Hello Thailand,

 

I wouldn't disagree with you one iota about the massive contribution Bookie has made on this forum and of course she has given a phenomenal amount of help to so many people.

 

I have only been on the forum for just over a year and obviously I cannot contribute anything like the hours that Bookie can. However, I have contributed when I can, and given hope and support whenever I can on a thread even if I don't know all the answers. Sometimes a new poster sounds just desperate and if I can be kind and make them feel better that is what I do. (If I do know the answers obviously it's better.)

 

I just don't believe in being sarcastic on a self-help or 'need some help' forum. I can be very sarcastic off-forum (usually to unhelpful people in call centres, DCAs, and so on) but I just don't agree with it here.

 

Sometimes posters do come up with some really silly stuff but I just wouldn't ever imply they were stupid.

 

I don't in any way see what you are saying as an attack, Thailand.

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Oh, BB, don't think that! I have dealt with far worse in my near on 4 yrs here, believe me, and it would take a lot more than bitching from people whose opinion I don't care about to upset me.

 

I know that you probably have issues with not taking things literally, but I can assure you that people may say one thing and still get on, and you shouldn't let that worry you unduly. :-) I don't want you to get upset over something as trivial as this, it is truly and simply not worth it, sweetie, ok?

 

Don't worry, I can assure you that the main goal is still very much in sight for me, always was. For example, I am currently working privately on new angles with which to attack the banks and hopefully will be ready to test those myself before sharing them if successful.

 

Please don't worry, ok? In the great scheme of things, these are mere skirmishes. :-)

 

{{HUGS}}

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