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As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. 4. The Claimant claims a Notice of Assignment was served on the 22/02/2022. This is denied. 5. The Claimant claims a Default Notice was served on the defendant. This is denied. 6. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 7. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. 8. Point 3 is noted and denied. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 9. Point 5 is noted and disputed. 10. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked *** The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 11. Point 11 is noted and disputed. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. 12. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** (dates are wrong) 13. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 14. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. Conclusion 15. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 16. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 17. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter into settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter into such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment. Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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The answer does not exist for now, no doubt some guidance will come eventually.

 

'The hourly rate for Litigants in Person will increase from £9.25 per hour to £18.00 per hour (Costs PD 52.4). However, while stating that the change comes into force from 1st October 2011, it does not specifically state whether or not the new Litigant in Person rate can be backdated.'

 

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http://www.thomas-legal.com/updates-to-the-civil-procedure-rules/

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Well that will explain why I have not been able to find the answer thus far :madgrin: Thank you very much for finding that!

 

If I ask myself the question - "what would the other side do?", I think I know what I will opt for...

 

After all, if there are no specific determinations neither option can be wrong surely??

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Yes having read around now I have changed my mind and would use the £18.00 rate. If your opponent is legally represented your costs will pale into insignificance.

 

Sorry I am having the connection problems at moment and my posts are a bit all over the place.

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An unusual outcome relating to LiP costs, that effectively pushed the hourly rate to one side.

 

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2002/250.html&query=wulfsohn&method=boolean

 

Now that is interesting, I vaguely recall reading that some time ago. It wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility that I have spent many thousands of hours on this case from start to finish, but at £18 an hour that may well exceed the cap not to mention the cost of stationary and disbursements.

 

I was never really that fussed about costs, it's more about justice than anything, but I know full well the other side will crawl over hot coals to get their costs without a second thought.

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WannaBeDebtFreeSoon,

 

There is an interesting phrase used in that judgement at paragraph 11 - "and the rate is fixed by Statutory Instrument and at all relevant times was £9.25 per hour".

 

That would suggest to me that you are far less likely to find your costs being disputed if you use a rate of £9.25 per hour up to October last year, and £18.00 an hour since.

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Preparations all complete, time to chill now with a few of my favourite films to get in the mood....

 

Think I'll start with Erin Brockovich, closely followed by the classic Secretariat and then finish up with A Few Good Men and if I haven't had enough by then I might push the boat out to Legally Blonde :madgrin:

 

It's really weird to think I'll never have to write another statement, prepare another document or serve or file anything ever again. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself when this is all over :!:

 

I know I've said this before but I really have fully appreciated all the support I've had with this over the years, irrespective of the outcome of the final trial I already consider this a victory for us all :whoo:

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Wannabe,

 

This is it, the final hurdle :)

 

I had a re-read of the whole thread last week, took me 4 hours on and off lol!

 

What a slog! This is usually the first thread I come to look at when on here, I wish you all the best and well done for sticking with your morals.

 

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Fingers crossed this actually is the last hurdle!

 

Well all I can say now is, win or lose I'll always know I could never have done more.

I've laughed, I've cried, I've broken down, I've picked myself up and I've fought to the death.

Whatever will be now will just be, I'm as prepared as I'll ever be although regrettably I do seem to be having something of a bad hair day :-(

 

See you all on the other side, and thank you for being with me x

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It's been a long and strenuous battle that feels as if it has gone on forever already. On that basis, 2 more weeks won't make a lot of difference - the Judge has reserved her judgment and it will be handed down within 2 weeks.

Sorry folks, the end is in sight it just wasn't today!

 

Hmmm yes it was a very interesting day, it's over now and there's nothing else that needs to be said or argued.

There was nothing about today that I regret and I absolutely did the best I could possibly have done, I know in my heart of hearts I could not have done any more so it's all in the hands of the Judge now. Whatever the outcome it won't be through a lack of trying! :-)

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Hi - well that's time for a little break and a cuppa - is that two weeks time then another two waiting for the post?

I'm certainly in need of something a little stronger than a cuppa at the mo! :-)

 

Luckily for us we live in modern times, the draft judgment will be sent out via email within 2 weeks and the hearing to formally hand down judgment is set for 27th July. So it's not all up in the air thankfully :-D

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