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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
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Hi all,

 

I am after some help with my other half's personal loan from Lloyds TSB if I can please? We have come across a problem with it and are now struggling to work out the next step.

 

The loan is a few years old and everything was running smoothly until my other half went on maternity leave in Feb 2009 and struggled to make the monthly £230 payment. She spoke to Lloyds who agreed to accept £30 per month for the duration of her reduced income.

 

This started off well but after a couple of months, without warning, Lloyds suddenly increased the monthly Direct Debit to £230. There was insufficient money in her current account to cover this and consequently the figure was returned unpaid and a charge of £30 levied by Lloyds. My other half contacted Lloyds, who after a lot of passing around departments agreed it was a mistake, cancelled the £230 direct debit, refunded the £30 and set up a new direct debit for the agreed £30.

 

For the next two months, exactly the same happened again and £230 was debited from her account, but this time, along with the agreed £30. At one point, despite cancelling the direct debit, Lloyds actually forcibly set up a new one without my other half's permission. This time I wrote to them to complain about breaches of the direct debit guarantee. Lloyds upheld the complaint, apologised for their mistake and awarded £75 compensation.

 

As we had completely lost faith in Lloyds being able to manage a direct debit, my other half insisted that she pay manually in future and after some negotiation, Lloyds furnished some account details for her to make payments to.

 

Unfortunately, however, in November 09, she was taken into hospital and missed the £30 payment. She received a call from Lloyds who said that she had broken the agreement and that they now required in excess of £110 per month from her. She explained she couldn't pay that much and asked to be put back on the agreed £30. Lloyds said that they needed her incomings and outgoings to make this decision, which she gave over the phone. The man did some calculations and agreed that she could stay on the £30 and the call was ended. 10 minutes later, he called back and said he had made a mistake and they could not accept less than £110. She again said she could not pay this much and was told that she would therefore be hearing from their collection agents.

 

On 17th December 09, my other half received a default notice, dated 14th December, demanding the full outstanding balance on the account of over £6600 and giving her until 4th January 2010 to pay it. I have attached a scanned copy of this notice here, pages 1 & 2:

 

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http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp192/JRP1414/LloydsLoanDN2.jpg

 

On 5th January 10, she then received a letter from SCM Solicitors also demanding the outstanding balance in full:

 

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We have checked her credit file on Credit Expert and there is no default registered. It does however say that she is 6 payments late, which cannot be correct.

 

I did request a copy of the Credit Agreement a little while back, which is attached here:

 

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp192/JRP1414/LloydsLoanCCA1.jpg

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and going through the FOS, successfully managed to get the PPI refunded.

 

Since looking through the statements that were sent with the CCA, I have spotted a couple of inaccuracies with the account, where it seems that they have charged back the returned £230 monthly payments more than once, thus incorrectly increasing the debt. They have also charged some fees in relation to this that have not been refunded. So its possible that the amount in debt is disputed too.

 

We have not yet replied to the Default Notice, nor the Solicitors letter and really do not know what step to take next. Should we consider a complaint to Lloyds that cancelling the voluntary agreement after missing one payment, when they took incorrect amounts several times seems quite unfair? Or should we simply contact the Solicitors to see if they will be reasonable and accept the agreed £30?

 

Any help would be gratefully received!

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That would be my port of call, CEO Office.

I can truly appreciate what you're going through, having problems with a similar issue ourselves, just awaiting a response from eric :)

Well his secretary ;)

Somebody else may have alternative suggestions, but that would be mine for starters.

Just explain everything to mr daniels that you have here, and you should have a reply rather sharpish.

 

Best wishes.

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Thanks Mills, that's certainly worth a try. I hadn't even considered complaining to the top. You just get to the point where you simply cannot see an end to the ridiculous situation!

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Hi JRP:)

 

It is definitely worth a try and I do wish you every success. From my own personal experience of sending both an email and a letter to Mr Daniels, I would say the chances of a response from his office are slim. A similar complaint with the added bonus of referring to apalling verbal abuse on the telephone by a LTSB staff member met with my complaint merely being passed to Customer Service Recovery in Hove. The response received (from a 'Senior Officer') stated that it had been passed to them for 'special attention' and then proceeded to inform me that they had nothing to add to any previous letters I had received in relation to my complaint:(

 

However, let's just hope Mr D and his staff have made New Years resolutions to be more sympathetic to their customers and you receive a more positive reply. Let us know how you get on!

 

Best wishes,

 

Landy x

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Thanks Landy. I just don't know how these guys excuse their behaviour. I can't imagine a customer writing to the Chief Exec at my work and not receiving a thorough reply to their concerns! What a way to run a business.

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Thanks Landy. I just don't know how these guys excuse their behaviour. I can't imagine a customer writing to the Chief Exec at my work and not receiving a thorough reply to their concerns! What a way to run a business.

 

Ah yes, but this is LTSB we are talking about and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them:eek:

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Personally, I would not alert them to the problem with the DN - they have certainly ballsed it up arrears must be the arrears and not the total balance.

 

This would become very useful in court if it gets that far.

 

If you alert them they could easily come back with the correct DN and then you are stuffed so to speak I would not contact them regarding this but this is my personal opinion.

 

HH

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