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    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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A CAGger recently defended a multi track claim using the argument that the default notice was ineffective. The CAGger was successful. The Judge allowed the arrears only up to the date of claim however, the judge made the comment that the balance continues to exist and should be paid. Seems to suggest that the debt is now irredeemably unenforceable.

 

PW

 

Excellent! It's difficult to see how the OC can now claim the balance in the courts as he's already had his s87 shot.

 

Is there a link to the cagger's thread?

 

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a cagger recently appeared in court and the judge argued that as he had not been making payments before he received an invalid DN and continued after receiving the DN not to make payments but remained silent on the matter.......that he had not- by his actions shown that his intention was to accept the unlawful repudiation- and his silence was taken to mean that he intended the agreement to endure

 

the judge commented that all he need to have done was not to have remained silent- and indicated his acceptance

 

judge lottery??

 

Cocking hell!

 

Have you got a link to that one DD?

 

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Excellent! It's difficult to see how the OC can now claim the balance in the courts as he's already had his s87 shot.

 

Is there a link to the cagger's thread?

 

LA

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There's a thread somewhere....can't find it.

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Hi guys

 

Need some help regarding default, termination and the company still persuing payments etc

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/data-protection-default-issues/265833-help-plz-regarding-default.html

 

Thanks

 

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his name will come to me i am sure- my posts only log nback 50 pages but as soon as i remember i will post it up (somoeione else might remember)

 

i think his handle was something to do with sergeant or some such

 

Bill Shidding wasn't it??

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the situation can be directly related to taking out a mortgage- the documents clearly advise you to consult a solicitor if you do not understand what you are signing

 

if you ignore that advice and sign anyway- game over (normally)

 

 

"Quote"

 

a person who signs a document, and parts with it so that it comes other hands, has a responsibility, that of the normal man of prudence, to take care what he signs, which if neglected, prevents him from denying his liability under the document according to its tenor...........

 

Lord wilberforce in Gallie V Lee (1971)

 

also........

 

... a man cannot escape from the consequences, as regards innocent third parties, of signing a document if, being a man of ordinary education and competence, he chooses to sign it without informing himself of its purport and effect...

 

Lord Jutice Scott ( Norwich & peterborough b s v steed (1992)

 

this is fine but what is being discussed here is the creditor acting unlawfully outside the terms of the agreement thereby nullifying it. It is NOT a misunderstanding between parties

 

Also even the OFT AND the FSA no longer accept the argument that the debtor must understand the terms because they signed it

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Once again I would argue that in receiving a DN the debtor "should seek legal advice" was fine when there was legal aid to pay for it. As we all know that's not now possible so just how is it possible for that person, who's probably skint, able to get qualified legal help, they can't can they & the courts must take that into account when considering a case

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his name will come to me i am sure- my posts only log nback 50 pages but as soon as i remember i will post it up (somoeione else might remember)

 

i think his handle was something to do with sergeant or some such

 

BILKO!:-o

 

Dibble!,

 

Kropky!!!!...

 

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Once again I would argue that in receiving a DN the debtor "should seek legal advice" was fine when there was legal aid to pay for it. As we all know that's not now possible so just how is it possible for that person, who's probably skint, able to get qualified legal help, they can't can they & the courts must take that into account when considering a case

 

Agree!

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Most people just do not understand sections 87 & 88...

 

 

A certain firm of lawyers (I will not name them, but you wouldn't want them to administer your memorial fund), and their repellent barrister often use this point to confuse (some might say mislead) judges.

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A certain firm of lawyers (I will not name them, but you wouldn't want them to administer your memorial fund), and their repellent barrister often use this point to confuse (some might say mislead) judges.

 

I am sure that, 'they' do!

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this is fine but what is being discussed here is the creditor acting unlawfully outside the terms of the agreement thereby nullifying it. It is NOT a misunderstanding between parties

 

Also even the OFT AND the FSA no longer accept the argument that the debtor must understand the terms because they signed it

 

 

ah yess the OFT (remind me- did they win the case against the banks?) and the FSA

 

and where precisely will their opinions overrule the house of lords and high court rulings exaclty?

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'antigone'...appears to be...gone :) having taken the hint, ECPR...what a brave soul, coming on here to post all that drivel :p

 

Almost completely off topic, contradictory and clearly inaccurate. Arguments for the other side need to have some merit to be valuable here, otherwise they're completely pointless.

 

Having clearly lost credibility with that disastrous post #2866, I suggest you keep your drivel to yourselves and go roll your snouts in your own Devil's Advocacy trough.

 

BRW thanks for crystallizing what most of us must have been thinking...;)

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