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    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
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Last week my bank HSBC charged me for drawing money out of the cash machine 30 mins before the cash was avaliable. I phoned them up requesting this charge to be removed but they denied my request. So I searched the internet and found this site. I am now going to claim back my charges for the last 6 years. In my haste to get this started I went into the bank and applied for my last 6 years worth of statments. They got me to fill in a Data Protection Act form that includes manual intervention. I signed the form at the bank. I have now relised that I can get all the details I need from internet banking. I want through my statments online and found they have charged me £2453.00 over the last 6 year. I am currenty filling in the Schedule of Calim. I first did the easy version that did not include intrest. I then decided to try and do the one that includes intrest on charges. All was going fine and then It started to give me the full amount of interest back. This is a sample line. 18/04/2005 1.19 -97.09 0.00 1.19

 

Is this normal to me this does not seem correct.

 

A few more questions on other things.

 

1. I have also a loan with Sainburys if I try and claim charges back for late payments can they request the full loan to be repaid. If I missed another payment would they be able to request full playment.

 

2. I have a loan with HSBC where I took out payment protection. Can I cancel the payment protection. Is there a template I searched but could not find one.

 

3. I belive I can request the signed document for all my loans and If the bank can not provide within 30 days I can have the loan cancled and any payments I have paid back.

 

4 Is there anything I can do with a CCJ that my mother is playing back. She has been paying the CCJ back at £5 a month for the last 6 years. The CCJ has just been bought by another company and still has about 10 years left. The company keep phoneing asking for the payments to be increased we are not going to increase payment as we see this as an interest free loan.

 

Sorry for the ramberling and so much in one thread if you would like me to split the questions into different threads please let me know.

 

Thanks _Mark_

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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it will give you the full interest if your overdraft does not exceed the total for unlawfull charges (if they had not charged you unlawfully you would not have been overdrawn)

 

1 no they shouldn't

2 yes you can. dont need a letter just tell them if you are sure that is what you want.

 

3 & 4 sorry i cant help you with those (fortunately i have never had that problem).

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Question 3.

 

Make a request under the consumer credit act 1974 for signed original copies of your agreement.

They have 12 working days to provide this.

There are temp letters in the baliffs and dca threads (cag ) ......where you will probably find the answer to question 4 above also.!

 

;)

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QUESTION 3!!

 

Be careful! This letter is really meant for stalling or putting off Debt Collection Agencies.

 

I think you will find that this only applies when the original lender has sold or assigned the loan to a debt collection agency.

The original lender will have a signature on an agreement from you, however when the Debt collection agency come after you saying "you owe us £x" this is where the letter comes i handy.

This letter asks them to prove that the credit agreement is with them and not the original lender, because you did not take out a credit agreement with the DCA they will be unable to prove it, this also sometimes uncovers sloppy handovers of accounts between lenders and DCA's. If they are unable to come back within the 30 days then you should report them to the appropriate agencies.

The loan won't simply be cancelled, it will remain, but the lender may give up chasing you for it, and they are also entitled to enter a default on your credit record if this happens. It's not a way of simply giving up on a loan.

28/07/06 - Prelim letter sent to HSBC for £3648

31/07/06 - Letter rec'd at HSBC

14/08/06 - LBA sent to HSBC

16/08/06 - LBA rec'd at HSBC

22/08/06 - Finally!! first reply from HSBC offering £2000

23/08/06 - Letter to HSBC declining offer, saying I want ALL my money!!

31/08/06 - MCOL filed for £4551.96, to be deemed served on 06/09/06

05/09/06 - HSBC Acknowledge claim

22/09/06 - DG Solicitors offer full amount in settlement, I accept!!

27/09/06 - Full amount paid into my acount

28/09/06 - Full amount taken out of my account!!!!!:mad:

29/09/06 - Cheque arrives, FOR SOMEBODY ELSE!! with all their account details in a letter adressed to me!!!

29/09/06 - HSBC refuse to pay money back into my account

 

 

 

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QUESTION 4!!

 

Tell them to sod off! The payments were agreed with the court at the time of the CCJ, they have no right to demand you increase payments. Stick to your guns on this one!!

28/07/06 - Prelim letter sent to HSBC for £3648

31/07/06 - Letter rec'd at HSBC

14/08/06 - LBA sent to HSBC

16/08/06 - LBA rec'd at HSBC

22/08/06 - Finally!! first reply from HSBC offering £2000

23/08/06 - Letter to HSBC declining offer, saying I want ALL my money!!

31/08/06 - MCOL filed for £4551.96, to be deemed served on 06/09/06

05/09/06 - HSBC Acknowledge claim

22/09/06 - DG Solicitors offer full amount in settlement, I accept!!

27/09/06 - Full amount paid into my acount

28/09/06 - Full amount taken out of my account!!!!!:mad:

29/09/06 - Cheque arrives, FOR SOMEBODY ELSE!! with all their account details in a letter adressed to me!!!

29/09/06 - HSBC refuse to pay money back into my account

 

 

 

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Mark, you will find people with a bit more knowledge on these situations on Debt Help UK : Free debt advice and solutions, with debt consolidation | UK debt consolidation service with free help and advice well worth checking it out.

Hope I have been of some help!!:)

28/07/06 - Prelim letter sent to HSBC for £3648

31/07/06 - Letter rec'd at HSBC

14/08/06 - LBA sent to HSBC

16/08/06 - LBA rec'd at HSBC

22/08/06 - Finally!! first reply from HSBC offering £2000

23/08/06 - Letter to HSBC declining offer, saying I want ALL my money!!

31/08/06 - MCOL filed for £4551.96, to be deemed served on 06/09/06

05/09/06 - HSBC Acknowledge claim

22/09/06 - DG Solicitors offer full amount in settlement, I accept!!

27/09/06 - Full amount paid into my acount

28/09/06 - Full amount taken out of my account!!!!!:mad:

29/09/06 - Cheque arrives, FOR SOMEBODY ELSE!! with all their account details in a letter adressed to me!!!

29/09/06 - HSBC refuse to pay money back into my account

 

 

 

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Just sent off my Request for repayment of £2589.06. I have sent the request via email hope this does not slow down the procuedure. I have read other people have sent their requests via email and been sucsessful.

Mark

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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Just received details of my parachute account with The Cooperative bank. Just need to sign the form and send it back.

 

_MARK_

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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Well done......lots of ppl had success getting one of these.........even ppl with poor credit history

 

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Just to update you all.

 

I will be filing my MCOL tomorrow as I have not heard a word from HSBC. I know I am a bit late but needed to wait until pay day. I have also been trying to get my PPI on my loan cancled. They have told me this is impossible. I have sent them the letter below today. When I first tried to cancel the PPI over the phone they said I would need to go into my local branch. I went into my local branch on Monday and they said I could not cancel the PPI and the only way to cancel is take out a new loan without the PPI. I would need to do that over the phone. Today I phoned them back again just to check how much I could save taking out a new loan without PPI. They told me I would not qualify for the new loan as I have had quite a few returned items. I think canceling my PPI is going to be a lot more difficult than reclaiming the charges.

 

Re: Account xxx

 

COMPLAINT

 

Dear Sir or Madam

I took out the above loan for £25,000 on 24/03/04. When I took it out, I signed up for Payment Protection Insurance. I phoned up on 26/09/2006 to ask to cancel it and was told that this is impossible. I am writing to complain.

 

When I took out the loan, I was told that I would not have been given the loan if I did not take PPI. I have since been told that this is not true, and that you are not allowed to make PPI a condition of taking out the loan unless you include the costs of PPI in your quoted loan interest rate, which you did not do.

I therefore consider that I have been mis-sold this expensive insurance, which I do not need and which I said that I did not want.

I have been advised that I should be able to cancel the PPI contract at any time and receive a partial refund of the premium that I have paid. I would like to do this and in view of the way I was mis-sold the insurance, I would like to ask for a full refund of the whole premium.

I would appreciate a reply to this email within fourteen days. If you reject this complaint, I would be grateful if you could explain whether you provide an internal appeals process. If you do not, please supply me with a final response letter, so that I can take up the matter with the Financial Ombudsman Service.

 

Yours faithfully,

Mark

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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My claim is now at the issued status and they have 14 days to reply. How long does it usually take for the to reply to the initial claim on mcol. I have also received the following email regarding my claim for my PPI back.

 

Mark

 

 

Thank you for your recent email.

 

We are looking into the matters you have raised and will contact you

with a full response as soon as we have completed my investigations.

 

We are formally obliged to advise you of the Bank's complaint handling

procedures you can view by logging on to Home: personal, business, online, internet, banking: HSBC Bank UK and Contact Us,

then 'How to Complain' which sets out the relevant details for you.

 

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us. I am only

sorry it has been necessary for you to do so.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Liz Schofield

Senior Service Quality Officer

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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I have just received am Email from HSBC requesting me to arrange an appointment to discuss canceling the PPI on my loan. The details are as follows.

 

Dear Mark

 

In order for us to discuss your concerns further I would be grateful if

you would contact my colleague *** (Branch manager) in

order to arrange a mutually convenient appointment.

 

 

I was happy doing everything via email as I can get advise before I proceed with anything but a appointment seems scary. Any advise you can give before I proceed.

 

Thanks Mark.

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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  • 3 weeks later...

Quick Update

 

Had a meeting with the bank manager about cancelling my PPI on my loan. To cut long story short they say they are unable to cancel the PPI on the loan and I cant take out a new loan without PPI as my credit score is too low. In the meeting I asked if they had the credit agreement she just kept telling me they would have given me a copy. So yesterday sent then the standard template requesting my signed credit agreement giving them 12 days to reply. Also requested a copy of the telephone conversation I had when I took out the loan.

 

Quick update on the charges received a letter from DG Solicitors today asking for a schedule of my charges that I am claiming. Please can anyone tell me if I can inclued new charged that have recenly been added or will I need to start the process again for them. Also how long does it take once they have received my list of charged.

 

Thanks Mark

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11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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Recevied a full offer for my bank charges from DG solicitors yesterday that I am going to accept. Anyone know if I can fax the acceptance over or do I need to send it by snail mail.

 

Thanks Mark

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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Ok I have received the money in my bank account. What now do I have to cancel the calim against them on MCOL.

HSBC

11/08/06 - Data Protection Act request at branch

14/08/06 - Prelim email sent to HSBC for £2589.06

15/08/06 - Parachute account received

28/08/06 - LBA email sent to HSBC

27/09/06 - MCOL Issued £3046.23

24/10/06 - Received full offer of £3046.23

27/10/06 - Reveived full payment of £3046.23

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