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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. 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In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Hi all.

 

Iam organising a party for my little boy he will be 6.

 

i have hit a few problems which i need help with

 

1 food what things do kids like in there sandwiches. I have asked some parents and they have said anything but what does that mean?

 

So far i have Jam, strawberry. ham. cheese is there anything i have forgotten?

 

2 i have asked the school for a list of the childrens names in his classes the school have said they cant give me them as DPA and confidenatly. why can they give them to one person but not me?

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How ridiculous, lol.

 

We used to get the names for xmas cards every year. :rolleyes:

 

Is that the same school which gave your mate issues about taking her kids out on that holiday? Might be time to think about changing schools. ;-)

 

BTW, re party: best advice I can give you is don't sweat it. They're 6, as long as they have crisps, drinks, sweets and a birthday cake and lots of toys, they won't give a toss about the rest.

 

Make it easy on yourself: paper plates, paper napkins and tablecloth, lots of straws, plastic glasses and big bowls to throw the crisps and stuff in, that's all you need. Oh yes, and loads of balloons for the kids to kick around. NOT silly string or confetti or poppers or glitter stuff, you'll be picking off your floor and shelves for the next 3 years.

 

Poundland is your friend for this type of thing. ;-)

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Yes they CAN give you the list, my sons class does so all the time, they are talking bolloxs!!

As for food, at my sons party (5) I did ham, cheese, marmite, I also did mini pizzas, pots of sausages, and something that went down REALLY well, was the fact that I went to Costco and bought two giant punnets of strawberries and grapes and also those mini pots of fromage frais and jelly, plus crisps etc.

 

My view on it is that the little mites have all this healthy eating crap shoved down their cakeholes ad nauseum, so let them have fun at a party, and it is well documented that sugar per se, does NOT make them hyper.

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Kids don't eat sandwiches, like Bookie says, lots of crisps and nibbly junk food. It's hugely bad for them but it's only once so who cares.:D

 

Have to say I agree completely with the School on the names thing.

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sorry? why?

 

well, let me put it another way, why don't you know the names of the children in your sons class?

 

If the OP's son is 6 then surely he knows who he wants to invite to his party. You don't need full names just to be able to hand out party invitations around school.

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There are 30 kids to a class, if you are hiring a hall you can cater for the whole class, at this age they cannot remember everything and you never know if they have remembered everyone, I ask again, why is it sinister to have the names of the children in the class? they are not supplied with pictures, phone numbers or addresses.

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and no, I dont know all the names of the children in my sons class, I have to ask for a list.

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So why are you inviting every child in the class if you don't know who they are?

 

I never used the word sinister, but I believe that all reasonable measures should be taken to protect children and their identities, and can't see why you would need this information.

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I needed it so that I could invite all the children in the class to the party, simple as, this just seems another hysterical response to a problem that isnt there as much as people seem to think there is, obviously if it is sinister inviting a child to a party or sending a christmas card then, mea culpa!

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We don't even ask for a names list at my son's infant school. They automatically give all the parents one at Christmas time. It gives you the name of all classmates.

 

Data Protection Act my *rse, as Jim Royale would say;)

 

 

If all else fails, kick them where it hurts and SOD'EM;)

 

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I've had to orgainse a few parties for my cousins when they were younger.

 

The winning formula seems to be a novelty birthday cake, plenty of burgers, hotdogs, little nibbly things, cakes. Any food that's colourful and looks nice on a plate, then kids will love it.

 

Make sure there are plenty of party games with pound shop toys as prizes, balloons. Kids always love to leave a party with plenty of evidence they've been to a party.Also if you can stretch to it, a party bag for each child as they leave. All this needs to contain is some small novelty toys and a bag of sweets.

 

My cousins also used to get a disco with laser show thrown in. But then they do have Fuzzybobble as a member of their family. ;)

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now, godmother, you are talking right up my street - i didn't work in a playgroup for 15 years for nothing (well practically nothing but that's another story).

every year we did a xmas party and other parties. the party was always the same - ready -

 

paper plates (smallish ones).

put the food on the plate - they either eat it or they don't but it is so much simpler this way. have a big bin liner ready to clean up (take about 10 seconds)

every plate gets some party rings, a couple of cadbury's fingers, a handful of crisps, a bun, some hula hoops, and if you are pushing the boat out - a small bap with some cheese or ham or whatever on it (you could sub small dinner rolls with a hot dog for the bap) or the mini pizzas. absolutely no peanuts or nuts of any sort - too dodgy for choking and allergies.

food is the last priority at kiddies parties.

 

only fill the paper cups half full and have a pitcher ready for refills (at least half of them will spill their drinks).

 

music is a must - all the party favs from bob to builder to agadoo (there are some great compilation cd's for kids parties).

 

a balloon for everyone to play with and later to take home

 

games - pass the parcel and musical statues go down a treat.

some relay games with the balloons if you have some adult help.

small prizes for the winners - penny goodies for the winning teams in relays.

 

location is up to you - if you can have it outdoors - great. if you want lots of kids - i'd opt for a local community centre which can probably be had for minimal cost for a couple of hours.

 

as for how many.

if you are a real glutton for punishment - just invite the whole class.

the more kids - the less you try to do at the party - just put on music and let them dance. (you could opt for professional entertainment - disco, clown, magic, etc. but this will cost you)

personally, i'd opt of letting your son choose 6, 8, or 12 friends (however many you want to deal with).

then you and he get together and make a list of who he wants to be there. kids of 6 know all the other kids names so he will be able to tell you who he wants to come and it shouldn't be a problem to give his teacher a handful of invitations and ask them to be passed out.

might want to include your phone number and ask mum's to ring you if they will be coming and also if they have any special food requirements (by food requirements you actually mean allergies - so when they say he only eats cheese toasties - ignore it).

 

(could always go the mc donalds, fun junction, bowling or whatever route - they do it all at a set price per head)

 

 

 

 

i've saved the best for last - no party worth it's salt sends kids away without a goodie bag. an absolute must!

you can get them at pound shops or home bargains or most anywhere - and just buy some cheap toys (i mean like 6/£1 toys or cheaper - anything you can get cheap and cheerful) plus some miniature choc bars, and other candy you can buy in bulk. you get the idea.

 

two hours max then send them off with their goodie bags and a balloon (but not until a responsible adult arrives to take them home) then pour yourself a glass of wine and put your feet up - you'll need it!

 

have fun!

 

 

just a p.s. on the p c / confidentiality stuff - we couldn't allow the children's photos to be taken by anyone - had to be taken with their backs to the camera and no faces identifiable. so had a plethora of pics of the kids sitting listening to stories, singing, etc with our faces showing and showing kids backs. (i do recognise the reasoning - just bemoaning the need, i guess...

it's the world we live in.....sigh!)

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Data Protection covers info on a computer. If they have a printed list of kids that could be copied.

Sausages, cheese cubes, pretzels, chocolate fingers etc. Make a fun cake...

Goody bags get expensive so I started baying lots of bags of mini sweets and told the kids to take 2 or 3 sweets.

Themed parties used to be fun, they all loved dressing up as pirates, though in retropect swords and a bouncy castle weren't such a good idea:eek:

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How ridiculous, lol.

 

We used to get the names for xmas cards every year. :rolleyes:

 

Is that the same school which gave your mate issues about taking her kids out on that holiday? Might be time to think about changing schools. ;-) Yep its the same school. No changing schools is not an option for us. Its the only school near by that will not require a 45 minute walk for the kids.

 

BTW, re party: best advice I can give you is don't sweat it. They're 6, as long as they have crisps, drinks, sweets and a birthday cake and lots of toys, they won't give a toss about the rest.

 

Make it easy on yourself: paper plates, paper napkins and tablecloth, lots of straws, plastic glasses and big bowls to throw the crisps and stuff in, that's all you need. Oh yes, and loads of balloons for the kids to kick around. NOT silly string or confetti or poppers or glitter stuff, you'll be picking off your floor and shelves for the next 3 years.

 

Poundland is your friend for this type of thing. ;-)

 

Yep we have decided poundland and have found a place o hire that costs £10 an hour. Doing music our selfs with party games and everything for the tablewear is paper or binable.

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I have the goodie bags sorted the food and stuff. Kids are getting winners medals and a prize. Iam buying in bulk from some decent shops who want my business, love the party planning in a recession as places are falling over to help u.

 

Found poundland was expensive for some items. Could only get 15 paper plate for £1 when i could get 60 for £2 in wilko, 200 napkins 99p, knives forks spoons got them 80 of each for 89p per pack. paper cups have been a problem as well as bowls but hey i cant buy it all in one day.

 

Now the party bags and pinata. Well a lot of places are doing things for a pound like shed loads of hair stuff and cars dinosaurs bubbles sweets etc so i think i have that covered. Just thought how much hair stuff is to much and how many cars are to much? party bags for girls so far consist of hair bands and hair slides bouncy ball, sweets and piece of cake.

 

Party prizes range from anything i can bag for half price to free. Some places are offering gift vouchers to go in there store but i dont no if that is suitable.

 

For those who have not guessed yes this is the first time i have planned a party.

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.........and finally: Just leave the kids to enjoy themselves with only the minimal amount of supervision.

They will make their own party fun.;)

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i think some head ache tabs will be required as well.

 

I have found loads of noisey stuff for the pinata. :lol: sorry cant find the angel smiley

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Usually when one is sick it triggers a few more. :rolleyes:

 

Reminds me of when I was in primary school aged about 6. (not too long ago) One of my classmates was sick on the floor in class. By the time the teacher had got the sawdust, a bucket, etc, no less than 8 others had thrown up too. Just because they saw the first one being sick.

 

It's amazing how you seem to remember the most bizzare things from primary school.

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yep fuzzy i seem to remember the same thing happing in geography class.

 

A friend was sick in the middle of class stank the place out and as rest the clas wasevacuated but not b4 about 3/4 of the class had been sick.

 

Bona thanks for the tip but i think a mop and bucket might just work well.

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no not yet its not till august but hey iam starting early as i need to involve school kids.

 

The school have officially told me, i have in writing, they cant give me the names as it is the DPA but they dont seem to understand what they are talking about as some teachers are giving out photocopies of kids names but hey they wont give them to me.

 

they have also said if i was to do a freedom of info act request then they would not be obligated to tell me.

 

Makes me laugh really as even the secetary could not take a message correctly.

 

How is a photocopy of a piece of paper that is being given out to other parents against the DPA for me but not them. Me thinks a lawyer need educating or even a complaint to the ICO.

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