Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
    • please stop using @username - sends unnecessary alerts to people. everyone that's posted on your thread inc you gets an automatic email alert when someone else posts.  
    • he Fraser group own Robin park in Wigan. The CEO's email  is  [email protected]
    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
        • Like
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

CL Finance H Cohen vs Libra007 *NOTICE OF DISCONTINUANCE*


libra007
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 5118 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

I received court claims paper from CL finance. with no documents at all. I dont even know which card is it for

I sent them CPR letter to provide me with documents to defend.

They simply sent a letter they are not obliged to provide anything to me.

I filed the defence on attaching the letters.

now I have received the AQ for small claims court.

 

I have consulted the sticky thread to prepare the general AQ form but need help to fill it completely, I have to hand in this by 27th

 

I dont know what to tick on/fill

 

A settlement

D witness

E Experts

H Fee

Please help, thanks

Link to post
Share on other sites

I received court claims paper from CL finance. with no documents at all. I dont even know which card is it for

I sent them CPR letter to provide me with documents to defend.

They simply sent a letter they are not obliged to provide anything to me.

I filed the defence on attaching the letters.

now I have received the AQ for small claims court.

 

I have consulted the sticky thread to prepare the general AQ form but need help to fill it completely, I have to hand in this by 27th

 

I dont know what to tick on/fill

 

A settlement Your choice but goes in your favour to appear amicable

D witness yourself and parter 0 =you 1= partner

E Experts None

H Fee Nil defendent

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please help, thanks

 

 

Regards

 

 

Andy

Edited by Andyorch

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi I would advocate something along the lines of:-

 

The Claimants are deliberately frustrating these proceedings and preventing me from submitting a particularised Defence/Counter-claim, by refusing to provide information first requested under a Subject Access Request/CPR 18 on the xxth xxxxx 2008. They have only partially complied with my request. I have sent letters to the Claimants Solicitors on the xxth xxxxx repsectively, requesting the outstanding information, which has to date not been furnished. I believe this is entirely unreasonable behaviour and I will shortly request an Order from the Court compelling the Claimant's compliance, to enable me to file a Particularised Defence Counter-claim

 

Without knowing a great detail of your case its difficuilt to advise but would assume the above would be suffice for part G

 

Regards

 

Andy

  • Haha 1

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

HI Libra

 

If you can post up exactly what you have received less personal details and we will advise

 

Regards

 

Andy;)

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHER

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group - The National Consumer Service

If you want advice on your Topic please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

i had no contact with court about it, and i got letter that case is stayed now. keep you posted will contact court about this today.

 

interestingly I have received another claim from CL finace for similar figure that I have no idea whats about, is their tactic to have another claim on top of this one , not it could be a different one or for the same.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

I had ongoing claim with CL , they filed another claim for similar , CL has actually filed another claim the claim particulars were not correct as I dont have any loan or card with barclays.

 

few days later they have send a letter that the claims particular were wrong and its actually another credit card company.

 

I filed acknolwedge of service

 

I sent a letter to CL for request of information.

 

no response yet,

 

I have filed the defence on basis of no supporting documents, agreement and default execution. due to xmas holidays I actually was confused when to file to filed it MCOL and called them for confirmation, I am safe as they dont count xmas holidays but if the last day fall on public day off which was saturday, so its fine to file today. lucky i guess.

 

 

having experience of CL from other ongoing case, they are very helpful to send you documents required. what sort of line action i keep in mind for this one?

 

i will post the claim and defence details here later.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

may i formally bring to the attention of our subscribers the follwing post from alanfromderby

 

quote

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/announcement.php?f=&a=149

 

 

Have you had dealings with a West Yorkshire based Debt Collection Agency?

 

If so, we have received this request for help:

 

I'm a journalist at the BBC, working in local radio in West Yorkshire. I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has had dealings with any West Yorkshire based debt collection agencies. If you too are based in West Yorkshire that would be ideal, however I'm still very interested in hearing from people all across the UK.

 

After initial chats at some stage I may wish to do a pre recorded interview with you. If anyone would like to get in touch to tell me about their past or current situations with West Yorkshire DCAs please contact me at: [email protected]

 

unquote

..

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi libra, CL finance seem to have bought a job lot of debt from Egg, they subsequently employed Cohen solicitors to take the debts to court via Northampton. They seem to have screwed up with the particulars of claim and put Barclaycard rather than Egg Card. They attempted to rectify their mistake by sending out amended particulars of claim but they can’t do that without the court’s permission or your agreement. So the claim cannot succeed.

I’d use the time to extract as much information from CL finance as you can before they come back for a second shot at you.

I do very little but I do it very, very well :cool:

 

If I've helped give my scales a click

:smile:

 

I have no legal experience and all advice given is based on the knowledge I've gained from this site.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

here we go again, in december just in time for xmas, i had another claim from CL in the shape of direct court claim was surprised at the contents in the form with an un know barclay card which i never had,

 

to solve this mystry, a notice of correction arrived that barclay should be read as some one else.

 

i acknowledge the service,

 

asked for more information under CPR

 

received the same general response from Cohen, they are not oblighed etc.

 

filed a defence online on 11 January

 

went on holiday in feb

 

aq received

 

and

 

when i came back i got bit of surprise response tom cohens

 

before the due date of aq,

NOTICE OF DISCONTINUANCE

 

upon the defendant making payment to claimant,hereby discontinues all proceedings. under the above numbered and accordingly withdraw fromt the same...

 

 

now I dont know how to respond to this, please guide me how go about this one and what does it mean to me for future for this account?

 

as hear from partner that some one droped personal letter to contact regarding this acount for repayment.. now I really dont understand whats going on!

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

as with the other claim, just when the deadline was passing to exchange the documents before the hearing date, they sent me notice of discontinuance, upon payment from defendant ..... this is discontinued etc.

 

i guess they didnt have anything to show in the court. but what should be my course of action now?

Link to post
Share on other sites

"upon payment by defendant" sounds suspicious.

But if youre sure theyve discontinued, after youve spent a lot of time and money researching your defence, you should be able to go for a wasted costs order.;)

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 11 months later...

a year later, cohan sent me another letter now, with amount increased by few more hundred pounds, that thisnt paid and 7 days will advise client for further action.

 

Now what does this mean?

another question what the course of action i should take of such claims that ends in discontinuance by the claimant?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh dear Cohens - they discontinued! They need to be reminded of the fact. A strong letter reminded them that they discontinued this claim a year ago, and as far as you are concerned the matter is settled.

 

Did you go for your costs?

 

They will need the court's permission to take legal action again, and I doubt they'd get it. Tell them that any further correspondence or action on their part will be regarded as vexatious and you will be reporting this matter to the OFT and trading standards, as well as the SRA.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...