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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Just looking at that letter from LD. It states that Fred admitted to recieving a caution at the 1St of July hearing. There is no mention of that in your summary of what happened but unless my mind is going, I do recall somewhere along the line that it was mentioned by a LD representative that Fred didnt respond to. I know how meticulous you are at reporting the facts and this kind of stuck in my mind. What other dates has Fred had direct personal contact with LD.

Hi Royboy,Fred has never denied being cautioned, but he has always believed he was wrongly cautioned. At the outset if you remember he applied for a stay in proceedings in order to challenge the caution.

That application was never responded to by the Judge and he asked the Judge about the outcome of that application at the Directions Hearing.

LD's representative pretended to know nothing of this or of the caution and insisted she needed to know what Fred was referring to.(despite the fact that LD had known for some 7 months at that point that no evidence of any caution existed.)

She tried to twist things to get him to admit causing criminal damage and he was very clear in telling the court that he did not accept that he had caused damage. The Directions Hearing was the only time so far that Fred has had personal contact with anyone from Lyons Davidson.

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

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Isnt there some sort of abuse of process rule that would cover this?

 

They are demanding Fred PAY for them to prove THEIR case against him to the court. :confused:

 

Ok there's a mystery prize for the first person to find an abuse of process rule we can get them for on this:D:D

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Blimey, been away all week and returned to a few developements!!!

 

Firstly I would write to LD and state that its upto them to provide evidence and you have no intention of contributing to their case fees!

 

Secondly, I would have thought tht even if Fred thought he had been given a caution,

1) he doesnt necessarily agree with it and can, as now, fight it in court. 2) without evidence that once was actually given then Fred is obviously mistaken :)

 

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Blimey, been away all week and returned to a few developements!!!

 

Firstly I would write to LD and state that its upto them to provide evidence and you have no intention of contributing to their case fees!

 

Secondly, I would have thought tht even if Fred thought he had been given a caution,

1) he doesnt necessarily agree with it and can, as now, fight it in court. 2) without evidence that once was actually given then Fred is obviously mistaken :)

 

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HI Yorky, glad to see you back.

I agree you're absolutely right. We didn't ask them to contribute to the cost of our transcript. They can just fork out for it when they lose the case:p

Your second point expresses the situation in a nutshell.:D

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Also, does the fact that they are suddenly demanding Fred contribute to their evidence costs suggest that someone at the college has had a look at LD's bill :eek:

Now that's a very good point caledfwlch. I hadn't thought of that as a possibility, but by sheer coincidence our letter to the Principal was delivered on Wednesday 14th October, maybe she took exception to a bill of £10,500 and rising.:eek::eek:

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Now that's a very good point caledfwlch. I hadn't thought of that as a possibility, but by sheer coincidence our letter to the Principal was delivered on Wednesday 14th October, maybe she took exception to a bill of £10,500 and rising.:eek::eek:

 

Did you make her aware that even if her college WINS they will be massively out of pocket, since most of that would be unclaimable against Fred.

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This therefore means that they either received their copy of the order before Fred did or they already knew about it some other way.

 

This is highly irregular and I would be tempted to write to the court manager and ask him/her how the situation arose.

 

It could happen if LD received the Court's order via DX and were on the ball with their reply, also served via DX.

 

I'd want to know if I were Fred.

 

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This is what the gem of a letter from Lyons Davidson says :rolleyes::rolleyes:.......

 

"We refer to the Court order dated 15th October . We are prepared to request a transcript of the Directions Hearing in which you admit you received a caution for causing criminal damage to the claimant's barrier, on the basis that you are prepared to incur half the cost of that document.

Please confirm that you are prepared to pay your contribution towards the cost of the transcript and we will contact the court in order to obtain it."

 

It is signed by undecipherable squiggle.

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Dear LD,

 

Thank you for your letter dated XXXX, the content of which is noted.

 

In an attempt to help you avoid further unnecessary costs, I suggest you contact Devon and Cornwall Police as they may supply the evidence you seek free of charge.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Fred.

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This is highly irregular and I would be tempted to write to the court manager and ask him/her how the situation arose.

 

It could happen if LD received the Court's order via DX and were on the ball with their reply, also served via DX.

 

I'd want to know if I were Fred.

Thanks for mentioning that Alphageek. We've been concerned about that and also about the length of time it typically takes for Fred's applications to get a response as opposed to LD's. These last two for instance were handed in to the court on 1st October and the response arrived on 17th. We still don't have an answer though because the claimants have till 2nd November to make representations. Presumably shortly after that the judge will make a decision, but by then the bundle for the final hearing will have had to have been sent in. :eek:

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It could happen if LD received the Court's order via DX and were on the ball with their reply, also served via DX.

LD's letter to Fred which arrived at the same time as the court order came by normal first class post. Is DX a sort of private courier service?

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they do use very fast courier service between various solicitors and court in city centres.

 

In this case Lyons Davidson's office dealing with the case is in Bristol and the court is in Plymouth.

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I'm not totally au fait with police terminology, but surely there is a huge difference between "being cautioned" as in "you have the right to remain silent, etc..." and "receiving a caution" as in "you've been a bad boy, next time it won't go so smoothly and this goes on your record, we're just not going to prosecute"???

 

In no 1, it is your legal right and protection, in the other it is the lower rung of punishment.

 

Discuss and demolish as you want. :-)

 

Edit: sorry, I wasn't just being random, I meant that maybe Fred confused the 2. When interviewed, he would have been interviewed under caution, but it doesn't mean he would have received a caution. If that makes sense. ;-)

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I thought that cautions were delivered formally by a relatively high ranking police officer, they would be presented with the details & would then would go & formally caution

 

So even if you agree to be cautioned, that might get turned down a short time later & it gets referred to the CPS, or the caution is delivered, or the senior guy realises that its a load of rubbish & the person is let out without realising that everything was dropped and the caution never given

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Bookworm and 2Grumpy, you both make very good points.

In Fred's case he believes he received a caution. The Duty solicitor present with him believes Fred received a caution and the Police must have believed they'd cautioned Fred because they informed Plymouth College of Art that Fred had been cautioned and they then wrote to Fred demanding he pay them the money in view of the fact that he'd received a police caution.

In January 2008 Lyons Davidson wrote to the police asking for documentation for the caution so they could use it against Fred in their planned court claim, but it didn't work out because the police wrote back unable to find it.

Correspondence ensued through 2008 culminating in a final definitive letter from the police stating there was no record of any caution on paper, or on computer and they can still find no record of it or any evidence.

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Interesting from that link, that you can only receive a caution if you admit the offence....

 

Did Fred ever admit to the offence of criminal damage?

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From the link that middenmess posted, there are 4 things that need to happen before a simple caution can be given.

there's evidence an offender is guilty

the offender is 18 years of age or over

the offender admits they committed the crime

the offender agrees to be given a caution – if the offender does not agree to receive a caution then they may be charged instead

The evidence was not conclusive

Fred did not admit the offence

Fred did not agree to a caution

The only thing they have going for them is hes over 18

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Have a read of this from the Home Office--all you need to know about cautions,

 

 

 

Cautions, penalty notices and other alternatives | Home Office

 

That's an interesting read middenmess. Fred allegedly received a Simple Caution, but the conditions were certainly not complied with by the police.

 

there's evidence an offender is guilty There was no evidence of guilt, all physical evidence of the damaged barrier had already been removed by the time the police were involved and the new barrier had already been installed. Fred was shown only edited cctv footage of him raising the barrier.The police did not visit the scene.

the offender is 18 years of age or over

the offender admits they committed the crime Fred insisted he had not damaged the barrier only lifted it to exit the car park. He also pointed out that the video was edited.

the offender agrees to be given a caution – if the offender does not agree to receive a caution then they may be charged instead if the conditions listed weren't complied with.Fred only reluctantly agreed as he was given to understand at the time that strong evidence of damage had been presented to the police. He was worried and thought they would keep him locked up if he didn't agree. The solicitor encouraged him to accept a caution and get it over with.

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Interesting from that link, that you can only receive a caution if you admit the offence....

 

Did Fred ever admit to the offence of criminal damage?

No he never admitted causing criminal damage. He always insisted he only carefully raised the barrier. Anyone who has seen the unedited cctv footage can see the truth of that.

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