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    • OK  so you may not have outed yourself if you said "we". No matter either way you paid. Snotty letter I am surprised that they were so quick off the mark threatening Court. They usually take months to go that far. No doubt that as you paid the first one they decided to strike quickly and scare you into paying. Dear Chuckleheads  aka Alliance,  I am replying to your LOCs You may have caught me the first time but that is  the end. What a nasty organisation you are. You do realise that you now have now no reason to continue to pursue me after reading my appeal since you know that my car was not cloned. Any further pursuit will end up with a complaint to the ICO that you are breaching my GDPR.  Please confirm that you have removed my details from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I haven't gone for a snotty letter this time as they know that you paid for your car in another car park. So using a shot across their bows .  If it doesn't deter them and they send in the debt collectors or the Court you will then be able to get more money back from them for  breachi.ng your data protection than they will get should they win in Court-and they have no chance of that as you have paid. So go in with guns blazing and they might see sense.  Although never underestimate how stupid they are. Or greedy.
    • Thank you. Such a good point. They did issue all 3 before I paid though. I only paid one because I didn’t have proof of parking that time, only for two others.    Unfortunately no proof of my appeal as it was just submitted through a form on their website and no copy was sent to me. I only have the reply. I believe I just put something like “we made the honest mistake of using the incorrect parking area on the app” and that’s it. Thanks again for your help. 
    • They are absolute chuckleheads. You paid but because you entered a different car park site also belonging to them they are pursuing you despite them knowing what you had done. It would be very obvious to everyone, including Alliance that your car could not have been in two places at the same time. Thank you for posting the PCN so quickly making it a pity that you appealed since there are so many things wrong with it that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. They rarely accept appeals since that would mean they lose money but they have virtually no chance of beating you in Court. Very unlikely that they will take you to Court given the circumstances. Just in case you didn't out yourself as the driver could you please post up your appeal.
    • Jasowter I hope that common sense prevails with Iceland and the whole matter can be successfully ended. I would perhaps not have used a spell checker just to prove the dyslexia 🙂 though it may have made it more difficult to read. I noticed that you haven't uploaded the original PCN .Might not be necessary if the nes from Iceland is good. Otherwise perhaps you could get your son to do it by following the upload instructions so that we can appeal again with the extra ammunition provided by the PCN. Most of them rarely manage to get the wording right which means that you as the keeper are not liable to pay the charge-only the driver is and they do not know the name and address of the driver. So that would put you both in the clear if the PCN is non compliant.
    • Thank you so much. Yes, I wish I had done my research and not paid. It's all for the same car park. Here is one of the original PCNs, they are all the same bar different dates. PCN-22.03.24-1.pdf PCN-22.03.24-2.pdf
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Keefy - thanks for the info! I've been off for a while, so sorry for not getting back sooner.

 

I can't believe it's not covered past the UK????? What exactly is the point of it if it's not for the whole journey?

 

I've had several more 'we have you item' messages now and it is definitely the new way they're doing it, but as has been said, this often doesn't change to 'delivered' so is next to useless. Perhaps it's a way of trying to get people to upgrade to Special delivery?

back to this, did you ever get it sorted?

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back to this, did you ever get it sorted?

 

How are you after your terrible problems with the wine glass? I have that with vodka bottles - they all have leaks in them;)

 

And no, primarily because I've been a bit of a lazy git and haven't contacted rm to complain. Essentially though it seems that paying for recorded is pretty pointless if it never gets past the 'we have your item' bit. How do you prove delivery if they don't update properly?:mad:

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How are you after your terrible problems with the wine glass? I have that with vodka bottles - they all have leaks in them;)

 

And no, primarily because I've been a bit of a lazy git and haven't contacted rm to complain. Essentially though it seems that paying for recorded is pretty pointless if it never gets past the 'we have your item' bit. How do you prove delivery if they don't update properly?:mad:

I have had a few of those, although it is clear that they have responded to the letters.

 

I am sending more letters out now with just a first class stamp. Apart from the realy important ones, I think you can expect them to receive them. If they deny it, then tough on them. That after all is what they say to us about their mail.

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I am sending more letters out now with just a first class stamp. Apart from the realy important ones, I think you can expect them to receive them. If they deny it, then tough on them. That after all is what they say to us about their mail.

I sometimes cut corners on the less important ones by buying the postage online from Royal Mail, then when you set the print up I put PROOF OF POSTING in place of return address in top left corner.

Means you have a receipt for it, specifically addressed to the recipient, and dated. It's hardly likely you'd buy it then not use it, so it's a good cheap method.

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Well I'll act as your control. If the same thing happens with my brandy and coke I think we're onto something.

Maybe a conspiracy whereby CAGGERs are having their beverages syphoned off for resale by DCAs to offset unenforceable agreements...

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Its all become clear now. A conspiracy.

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I sometimes cut corners on the less important ones by buying the postage online from Royal Mail, then when you set the print up I put PROOF OF POSTING in place of return address in top left corner.

Means you have a receipt for it, specifically addressed to the recipient, and dated. It's hardly likely you'd buy it then not use it, so it's a good cheap method.

Good point Elsa, I will try that

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I have had a few of those, although it is clear that they have responded to the letters.

 

I am sending more letters out now with just a first class stamp. Apart from the realy important ones, I think you can expect them to receive them. If they deny it, then tough on them. That after all is what they say to us about their mail.

 

All you really need proof of is that you HAVE posted it.. you can get this PoP free at the post office counter:)

 

In respect of RD/SD where Royal Mail's Track and Trace shows no signature/or delivery details.

 

Download the form from their site copy the slips you are given at the post office.. Then list all the letters that you have no delivery/signature details and send a covering letter.

 

They will either write to you with a copy of the signature/delivery details or advise that it is considered lost and in respect of RD give you stamps to the value of your letter/postage and in respect of SD send you a cheque.

 

 

 

"Dear Sirs,

 

I am at the present in contact with quite a few finance and subsidiary companies.

 

As there is a possibility of court action between myself and these companies. I have to be able to not only prove that a letter has been sent, but delivered as well.

 

I have taken advantage of the supposedly secure and foolproof method of proving that my letters ARE being received. However, on many occasion your Track n Trace web site facility shows letters either static at the point of posting, not delivered, not signed for, or just plain missing with no details.

 

This is not acceptable.

 

As I will need to produce in court the original reciepts as evidence that I at least did make the effort to get my letter(s) where and when I say I did then I am unable to provide you with these and attach copies in order for you to investigate.

 

I look forward to hearing from you , etc.. "

 

 

 

I sometimes cut corners on the less important ones by buying the postage online from Royal Mail, then when you set the print up I put PROOF OF POSTING in place of return address in top left corner.

 

Means you have a receipt for it, specifically addressed to the recipient, and dated. It's hardly likely you'd buy it then not use it, so it's a good cheap method.

 

Interesting, Elsa.. how do you do this please ?

 

Damn the blighters! They can have my kidneys but I draw the line at my brandy!!!

 

 

I'll fox their dastardly conspiracy..I'll officially become an adept of Freemanism, then they'll leave me alone eh...eh?

 

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I sometimes cut corners on the less important ones by buying the postage online from Royal Mail, then when you set the print up I put PROOF OF POSTING in place of return address in top left corner.

 

Means you have a receipt for it, specifically addressed to the recipient, and dated. It's hardly likely you'd buy it then not use it, so it's a good cheap method.

 

Interesting, Elsa.. how do you do this please ?

 

 

Hi Citib :)

Just log onto Royal mail and register for an online account. Then you can buy postage, you input size/weight of envelope, the address and (as said I put PROOF OF POSTING instead of a return address) it then automatically creates a printed label with a barcode, which you can print straight onto an envelope or label.You can access your account anytime to see what you've printed before, including receipt for payment.

I then just post them in normal post box its not TECHNICALLY proof but they think it is cos it says so..LOL, and as you can at least prove you bought postage on that day for that address, its better than nothing if you're stuck and can't get to PO. (If you can get to PO you can of course do this and get a free Proof of Posting receipt too).

I figured this way out as I can only get to a PO once a week and standing in front of a long queue of Calendar Girls at the village PO sending loads of Registered Mail to Retail Bank Collections etc...is not my kind of fun! :D

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Damn the blighters! They can have my kidneys but I draw the line at my brandy!!!

I'll fox their dastardly conspiracy..I'll officially become an adept of Freemanism, then they'll leave me alone eh...eh?

 

So that's what happened!!!! All this time I thought I had renal disease but in fact it was the bleedin' banks!!

 

I've got them though as little do they know, I have a spare. Yes, in addition to my posh windows I am that posh that I've got 3 kidneys. Better keep that one on the down low or they'll be after it as a down payment on one of my cards:eek:

 

ps - thanks for the letter CB. I can see a few books of stamps heading my way with the amount they've cocked up on!

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Fruit flies like a banana.

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Well, it happened with my brandy last night.

Just to be on the safe side, I'm testing the theory again tonight.

Brandy is actually quite a POSH drink so I hope that's in order?

In view of your posh status Lexis, and your superfluous kidney, I think you need to upgrade to TenaMILADY.

 

Elsa x

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Brandy is actually quite a POSH drink so I hope that's in order?

In view of your posh status Lexis, and your superfluous kidney, I think you need to upgrade to TenaMILADY.

 

Elsa x

 

Hi there Elsa,

 

...also with brandy usually comes a "Romeo Y Juliet" cigar:D

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I'm here!!

 

Sorry, I was so busy staring out of my posh windows whilst opening and closing my posh door that I forgot to look in here.

 

Oh, and while I think about it - Oi Elsa - Tenamilady??? Not for another few years thank you very much. Or, you know, when I laugh a lot:D:lol:

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Lexis!!!

I didn't mean step THAT far away from the keyboard...

Come back! We promise to be good, don't we Vint.

Vint??

Hello????

Sorry Elsa, Her insida de doors, she who must be obeyed, insisted that I finish tiling the bathroom yesterday:sad: I am driven like a slave!

 

Could be that Lexis is away from the keyboard, having been upset by the fact that the Posh windows need more cleaning, now there is press interest. Any news on the Butcher.

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I'm here!!

 

Sorry, I was so busy staring out of my posh windows whilst opening and closing my posh door that I forgot to look in here.

 

Oh, and while I think about it - Oi Elsa - Tenamilady??? Not for another few years thank you very much. Or, you know, when I laugh a lot:D:lol:

There she is:)

 

Just waiting for them to market Tenaman. The nappy for the decerning gent:D

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POSH LEXIS, CAT FLAP AND WIDOW QUEEN THAT ATE 12 DEAD SHEEP!, IN NEW TENALADY AND NAPPY SCANDAL.

 

Our intrepid reporter caught up with Lexis yesterday, while cleaning her windows. " Have you seen my posh door" was her only response to our probing questions.

 

Investigations continue into the dissapearance of a lorry load of Tenalady. Lexis has so far denied involvement stating " I dont need those for another few years, thank you very much". This reported has his doubts, looking at the soft white pads being used to clean Lexis's windows.

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