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    • thread title updated. so a sold debt. who are the solicitors? TM legal? why didn't ovo do this themselves as they do but chose to sell the debt on for 10p=£1? funny debt you state you reived a letter of claim, why did you not reply too it.? also is there is no indication of the date this bill comes from on the claimform? how do you know its from 2022? what other previous paperwork have you received? please scan page 1 of the claimform and bothsides of ALL previous letters upto one mass pdf read upload carefully. .................. pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/466952-lowelloverdales-claimform-old-cap1-debt/?do=findComment&comment=5260464 .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Thank you again. I'm hoping it will come out in the wash and will endeavour to check my online account. I'm a bit unsettled by not hearing from Booking.com but the host is sounding helpful at the moment. HB
    • I've just remembered that a friend of mine had bookings cancelled on Booking.com about a month ago - and the good news is that all worked out in the wash. I'm at work now but will scribble properly in a couple of hours with the full tale.
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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre Name of the Claimant ? JC INTERNATIONAL AQUISITION How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – 22 May 2024  Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – 1. The def owes the claimant £300 in respect of gas and electricity charges supplied by OVO. 2. Debt was assigned to the claimant with notice given to the def. 3. Despite formal demand the def has failed to pay the debt and the claimant claims £300 and further claims interest pursuant to s69 of the CCA 1984. What is the total value of the claim? £385 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Energy debt When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Moved home and they were the current energy supplier  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax/Etc...) ? No Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Debt assigned to JC International Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not sure probably  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Again can't remember but probably  Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? Changed supplier What was the date of your last payment? Never  Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No
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hi,

i took out a £4500 loan with logbook loans and fell into arrears due to accident needing operation and not being able to work.

i signed up for my loan in a street miles from my house and the only one to sign the bill of sale was myself and the rep who also signed the witness part with a squiggle.

i have so far paid them back £3500 and they want another £6500 to stop them taking the car.

i wish to sell the car and have got a new V5 from dvla. have done hpi check and is says finance outstanding and security risk.

i paid cash for the car. i have hidden the car well away as i got no intention of them getting it as i worked very hard to get this car.

i have emailed hpi to ask them to remove it and i am waiting for a reply. any help welcomed.

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busy be warned now that you have contacted HPI LBL WILL be informed that you may be intending to dispose of the vehicle.

 

Also they have been known (mistakenly I'm sure) to snatch vehicles which are NOT the subject of a 'bill of sale' so again be careful if driving a friends or relatives car.

 

If you are approached in such circumstances immediately contact the police

 

Finally they DO trawl through these sites in the hope of identifying problems so be careful about what info you give.

 

Is it fitted with a 'tracker'?

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Hi, I am in the same boat i owe money to lbl and they want the car. I have hidden the car so they cant get it and have done a hpi check. the hpi says there is outstanding finance and car is a security risk. i have contacted them and they will not remove it neither will lbl. i have read about checking on the bill of sale ans wondered who do make the cheque out to. my girlfriend is sending it as i dont have a bank account.

Please can anyone advise on this and also how to get the hpi removed as i have been told this is illegally put on by lbl and i need to sell the car.

thanks

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I have sold my car privately now as gemini said it was ok providing the payment goes to them. buyer said he would send payment. i dont care whether he does or not. I asked for LBL for proof that bill of sale had been registered and they did not have a clue what i was talkking about. lady from gemini said they dont have one. LOL what a horrible company. i refuse to pay them anymore money. borrowed £5500 and they want £23000 back.

lol

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we had a loan with these and fell into arrears. lbl said we could sell

the car providing the buyer sent the money direct to them.

we obtained a new logbook from dvla and sold the car private. the new

owner has now come back at us saying lbl has repossessed the car from

him and saying that he knew nothing about the hpi and saying that he

wants us to pay him for the money he lost on the car stating the sale of

goods act1979. i have been told that he cannot touch us as it is his word

against ours that he knew about the hpi. he claiming he paid them and

saying he gave us money. this bloke is harassing me and i am now

getting worried about it. please advise

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If he's a private citizen & not a dealer then his complaint is with LBL as they took his car unlawfully. no matter what they might claim.

 

Did he pay the outstanding finance or did he pay you. If you he could sue you for his money. but he can't claim to have paid both.

 

My only thought is that LBL have added late payment charges (of which you knew nothing) to the outstanding debt & have used these as an excuse to snatch the car. This is a common 'tactic' of LBL I'm afraid

 

There is court action being taken against this company by a number of former customers

 

The Sunday Mail article is ongoing also perhaps you should contact BBC Watchdog

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we had a loan with these and fell into arrears. lbl said we could sell

the car providing the buyer sent the money direct to them.

we obtained a new logbook from dvla and sold the car private. the new

owner has now come back at us saying lbl has repossessed the car from

him and saying that he knew nothing about the hpi and saying that he

wants us to pay him for the money he lost on the car stating the sale of

goods act1979. i have been told that he cannot touch us as it is his word

against ours that he knew about the hpi. he claiming he paid them and

saying he gave us money. this bloke is harassing me and i am now

getting worried about it. please advise.

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we had a loan with these and fell into arrears. lbl said we could sell

the car providing the buyer sent the money direct to them.

we obtained a new logbook from dvla and sold the car private. the new

owner has now come back at us saying lbl has repossessed the car from

him and saying that he knew nothing about the hpi and saying that he

wants us to pay him for the money he lost on the car stating the sale of

goods act1979. i have been told that he cannot touch us as it is his word

against ours that he knew about the hpi. he claiming he paid them and

saying he gave us money. this bloke is harassing me and i am now

getting worried about it. please advise.

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well, its a difficult situation to be honest

 

the guy is talking out of his bottom about the Sale Of Goods Act 1979 for starters, the SOGA is not relevent here,

 

His actions may place him in breach of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 , depending on how he is behaving

 

the best thing to do IMHO is write to him setting out what the terms of the contract were.

 

if he failed to keep to the contract its his own fault and there is no liability on you for his losses. he really has very little ground to argue unless he can establish you knowing there was HPI on the car allowed him to buy it without first telling him the HPI needed settling

 

however the figures sort of suggest that it would be clear that he would not get a 7000 pound car for 850 so i think that would be in your favour

 

that would be how i would approach this

 

Regards

paul

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