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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

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Quidquid Loan Now with PRA Group Ex-husband took out loans in my name....big mess...


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Hi All,

 

Firstly, apologies if something like this has already been discussed. I have seen similar posts but I think my predicament is slightly different...it's a long story but I hope that some of you will take the time to read it and have some advice for me...

 

So, some years ago, in my clearly very naive and gullible early 20s, I met my ex husband. We got married in 2010 when I was 23, less so because we thought it was the best thing to do, more so for 'financial reasons'.

 

About 6 months before we got married, my ex had started to have some money problems and I noticed some unauthorised transactions on my credit card totally about £800.

The transactions came under Victor Chandler and I reported them to my bank's fraud department.

 

 

On learning that I had done this, my ex decided to tell me that I needed to withdraw my claim to the fraud department as it was to do with him and he could get into a lot of trouble!

(He's in the RAF and works in the armoury...I believe being in debt and having gambling problems would be something that's frowned upon in his position...).

 

 

He explained that he had used a online gambling site to 'transfer money' as he needed it to help his mum...

the story was more elaborate and seemed to make more sense at the time..

.anyway I was young and stupid and decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe him.

 

I suspected he had a gambling problem, but every time he'd spin me a story and I stupidly tried to believe him.

 

As things progressed,

I buried my head in the sand and we got married and as soon as that happened, everything went from suspicious to disaster...

 

 

The guy had all my bank details, all my personal details...

he memorised my bank account numbers and card numbers off by heart!

 

 

He'd put on a girls voice and call up my bank pretending to be me and all sorts.

He took over my accounts completely and in a bid to stop me from finding things out he'd stop me going online by tampering with the phone lines, etc.

 

 

One day I found he'd taped a small piece of clear tape over the phone plug so I could check my bank online or call them!

 

My life and my finances got to the point where I was working full time and each payday, as soon as I had been paid, literally within an hour all my available funds would be gone.

 

 

My bank statements from the period which I was with him are just full of transactions of money (mostly) going out and coming in from various online gambling websites. .

 

Despite my feelings deep down and my instincts telling me everything was wrong,

I tried whatever I could to just stick it through and hoped he would change and everything would eventually go away!

I mean, he went to such lengths to prove to me that things were being sorted...!

 

By May 2013 I finally decided that I was not going to take it anymore.

I wasn't going to let him continue to ruin my life and I left him.

We separated in May 2013.

 

 

I moved back to Hong Kong for 8 months to get away from him and stayed with my parents.

During this time, my ex husband and I still had some contact as I was still having major issues with my bank and I was desperate for him to sort it out so that, even if I couldn't get any of my hard earned money back at least the black hole of debt would stop getting deeper!

 

 

Eventually, he told me that a solicitor had managed to get some money back for us, but it was being paid into my account via a payday loan company.

 

 

As I was out of the country and wasn't up for speaking to him much I didn't pay too much attention to this.

Some money did appear in my account from a payday loan company, but the money soon disappeared again.

I thought it was just the same old same old.

 

It wasn't until some time in 2015 when I had returned to the UK and got officially divorced from him that I found out that the money that went into my account was in fact a payday loan that he had taken out in MY name.

And here in my predicament lies..

.the loan was taken out online,

so he used all my details and signed electronically and the money did indeed go into an account that belonged to me.

 

 

The money then left my bank account going to various gambling websites,

and I'm taking a wild guess that all of those accounts to all of those gambling sites were probably in my name as well.

 

 

This is a debt that I don't feel I'm responsible for at all after all the punishment and the financial ruin he's left me in.

In the time I was with him I lost ALL my wages plus some money my parents had gifted me in the hopes we'd settle down and have a decent deposit to put on a house.

 

 

All in all, I would hazard a guess at losing somewhere between £60-70k in the time I was with him.

Not to mention his own salary on top of that! But, now I think I'm stuck with this loan of around £1200.

 

I am now being hounded by the PRA group who have bought the debt off QuickQuid and are sending me letters saying that I need to pay them.

 

 

I can see on my credit record there is a default against my name under the PRA group for this unpaid debt.

It's causing me a lot of stress now as I have finally settled again, with a most amazing man and we are expecting our first child together and would like to purchase our first home but my finances are making me very uneasy.

 

In all this time, I have never contacted the police as I did what I could to try to come to a civil separation from him.

I didn't want to get him in trouble as I wasn't sure if it would affect his job and whatever ill feelings I had toward him I tried to stay fair and settle things with as little trouble as possible.

 

 

Seems though, that the only person suffering is me!

Is it too late to take this to the police now?

Have I left it too long?

 

My ex husband, to name the things he's done..

.gambled our entire marriage,

made up solicitors and created fraudulent email trails.

 

 

He's taken money from me that should have gone into my bank

and brought me home a 'receipt' of paying it in to my account

then turned a story about how the money went into the 'wrong account'.

 

 

He's taken out numerous loans in my name.

Opened up accounts to gambling websites in my name.

He moved into military married quarters after we were separated using a marriage certificate that was no longer valid,

ran up trespass charges for a late march out and slapped me with a bill of nearly £1500!

 

 

He'd steal my purse...

I've never lost my purse in my entire life..

.in the 3 years we were married I managed to lose it THREE times

AND every time it's miraculously turned up back on camp..

.minus the couple hundred pounds emergency cash I had in it!

 

 

He cheated on me.

He's even lied to me now about his current girlfriend being sexually assaulted and suffering panic attacks because of it.

..and his poor girlfriend.

..he steals money from her kids...!

 

I apologise for all the excess info and I understand it's all a bit jumbled.

I just find it extremely difficult to put what he did to me in words but felt that some background on all the things he got up to might help me get some advice...

 

 

Thanks.

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Being in the forces and debt go pretty much hand in hand, so there's no surprises with your predicament.

 

What he has done however is fraud, and you need to report it as such to the police, if you still have ANY financial connection with him on your credit file then you also need to disassociate yourself from him on there also.

 

You can place a ''notice of correction'' against the entry on your credit file for the default.

 

You can also report the fraud with Action Fraud online... http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-a-fraud/how-to-report-a-fraud

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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aside to all the other terrible things...oh my

 

 

the issue here is with PRA group and the debt they have and the default they inherited?

is that the ONLY bad thing on your credit file that's upsetting getting a mortgage?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The advice you've been given above is correct. However, in respect of credit applications in which you acquiesced by not taking any action, you may have some kind of liability.

 

Your opening post is very long and we appreciate that we understand the full story. However, your position is rather difficult to unravel and so it would be very helpful if you could now restate the situation in a bullet pointed form, stating very simply which lenders/creditors, date of loan, how much is outstanding now and any further information such as what action that creditor might have taken.

 

You certainly must inform the police right now and get crime reference numbers for it all. In fact I'm quite sure that if you set the problem out in the way that I have just outlined, then that list with dates, figures et cetera, will be hugely helpful to the police as well.

 

You could also let us know against each one whether this is one that you acquiesced in or whether you have only just come to know about it and it has taken you by surprise.

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Thanks all for the advice. I will go onto action fraud and report him.

 

Essentially as it stands, the one thing that I do know about is the PRA Group debt.

I have tried to contact the original debtors for information and have contested the debt with the PRA Group.

I have never acknowledge verbally or in writing that I was in anyway responsible for the debt.

 

I first found out about the loan when I checked my credit report back in 2015.

At that time I did contact debt collection agency who gave me the name of the debtor and the reference number.

 

 

I contacted QuickQuid and all they could tell me was,

yes money was loaned so someone in my name,

at my address at the time,

money was paid into my account but they could not tell me anything else as I was unable to provide the email that was used when applying for the loan.

 

 

Some time later the debt then disappeared from my report.

It was only mid/late 2016 it reappeared on my credit report and since I have been doing what I can to try and dispute the debt.

 

After we divorced we made an agreement privately for him to pay me back some of the money that he stole from my accounts.

The loan itself came as a complete surprise when I found out about it.

I haven't done a lot to fight it but have questioned it regularly.

 

I guess most of the extra info I gave was to really ask if I reported any of those things now, would I be taken seriously at all?

 

 

Most of what my ex-husband has done, I knew about.

It happened throughout our marriage but I had tried to work things out with him and often believed what he said.

I think I was mostly in denial that my marriage was a sham and everything was crumbling around me.

 

 

I didn't have any intentions of reporting my husband to the police when I was trying to make my marriage work.

I do feel now, after some time to heal and process that what he did was abusive and quite damaging to me mentally as well.

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as we've seen QQ null numerous loans due to irresponsible lending

might this be a route here??

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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