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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ?  Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account 4546384809766042. The defendant faild to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. The dbt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred?  No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ?  Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.  It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor?  Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment?  May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
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    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
    • what device are you using? copy all the questions then come here to this thread and paste them. then answer each question click on red give answers here. when done  hit submit reply bottom right.  
    • No because it's locked. You need to copy the relevant part of the questionnaire and paste it into this thread. That way you can overwrite. HB
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Hi,I never posted here before but I need some advice and this seems like the perfect place.My boyfriend had a letter from MH about two months ago, asking him to call and if he wasn't the above named person could he call and tell them. I googled the company & realised they are a debt collection agency. We didn't get in touch as it seemed they wasn't even sure if he lived at the address.He had a postcard type letter yesterday saying: Please call .... no later than september 12th if you are not the above named person please call ..... this is not a circular or junk mail we need to speak to you urgently regarding reference number .....He doesn't remember having any outstanding debts. He was going to get a credit report however I have read somewhere that if you do that MH will know & it will make them chase you further?I don't know whether to:1) wait for them to send another letter detailing how much is owed etc & then my boyf will know if he has that outstanding debt OR2) send them a letter asking for the original agreement OR3) send them the letter claiming that the debt is status barred as neither me or my boyf have any recollection of him corresponding with anyone in the last 6yrs regarding money owed to them.If anyone could offer some advice, I would be really grateful!!

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Hi,I never posted here before but I need some advice and this seems like the perfect place.My boyfriend had a letter from MH about two months ago, asking him to call and if he wasn't the above named person could he call and tell them. I googled the company & realised they are a debt collection agency. We didn't get in touch as it seemed they wasn't even sure if he lived at the address.He had a postcard type letter yesterday saying: Please call .... no later than september 12th if you are not the above named person please call ..... this is not a circular or junk mail we need to speak to you urgently regarding reference number .....He doesn't remember having any outstanding debts. He was going to get a credit report however I have read somewhere that if you do that MH will know & it will make them chase you further?I don't know whether to:1) wait for them to send another letter detailing how much is owed etc & then my boyf will know if he has that outstanding debt OR2) send them a letter asking for the original agreement OR3) send them the letter claiming that the debt is status barred as neither me or my boyf have any recollection of him corresponding with anyone in the last 6yrs regarding money owed to them.If anyone could offer some advice, I would be really grateful!!

 

If you're certain there's been no correspondance or monies paid within the last 6 years then the debt is statute barred. Ignore this letter (but keep it) for the time being and wait to see what they send next.

Just hate every DCA out there

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I'd agree. There's a decent chance that they're fishing for somebody with a similar name, or that they've bought a lemon - a stature barred or unenforcable debt.

 

You've done the right thing by asking for advice here, but for now I'd ignore them and wait for their next move.

 

The most important advice I'd give is NEVER speak to these people by phone: they'll twist your words and try to trap you into admitting that you owe them money.

 

The onus is on a DCA to prove that you owe money, they can't force you to prove that you don't.

 

Do keep us posted :)

  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

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Thank-you for your quick response!Do you think we should just ignore it even though we can't be 100% sure that there's been no correspondence or monies paid for six years? Also Is it at all possible that they have the right name but wrong person?

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I'd still ignore it.

 

If you genuinely do owe some money, let the DCA prove it. There's a tried and tested route which involves asking for a copy of the original agreement. If it does turn out that there's a genuine debt, and all the paperwork is in order, then you can begin negotiating a repayment.

 

But let them do the legwork!

 

Btw, even if there has been correspondance in the last six years, unless you've admitted a debt in writing (or made a payment) that doesn't affect the Stature Barred timescale.

  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

<--- If I've been helpful please remember the scales ;)

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Thank-you for your quick response!Do you think we should just ignore it even though we can't be 100% sure that there's been no correspondence or monies paid for six years? Also Is it at all possible that they have the right name but wrong person?

Definately. MH specialise in Statute Barred debt and unenforceable debt. They send out loads of letters to people with similar sounding names in the hope that someone will be mug enough to pay them. LET THEM PROVE YOU ACTUALLY OWE money. They wont

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So basically if they send another letter asking for money etc then I should send them one back asking for the original agreement? If they don't provide it what do I do then? I won't turn up at the house or anything will they?I really appreciate your help!

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Don't panic. They're incredibly unlikely to send anybody round, and even if they did a debt collector is not a baliff and has absolutely no legal powers, including right of entry.

 

If and when they send another letter, let us know what it says and we'll take it from there.

 

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  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

<--- If I've been helpful please remember the scales ;)

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They are based in a tatty office in Kilmarnock so unless you live two streets from them they will not call. You have more chance of finding Shergar than thes numpties calling. Wait until you get another lying letter from them and come back here. Personally at the moment I would not waste the £1 for the CCA

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Thank-you so much for the advice. I do feel a lot better now. I will wait & see what they do next - I assume they won't leave it there! so will keep you posted when I do hear from them.I'm so glad this site exists!

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I would check your credit file to see whether this DCA has registered it!

 

Oddly enough, I'm going through the same situation & have just been in contact with my local TS who had the audacity to tell me that a DCA can add statute barred debts to credit reference files. To be honest the woman I spoke to wasn't particularly 'clued up' & soon got lost when I started quoting various legislations & guidelines!:(

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ODC - Will def tell my friends, fam etc about this site!Cerberusalert - I think I might just wait & see what their next letter says & if needs be then check my boyf credit file. I just don't want MH to be alerted that we are looking at my boyf credit file. It might encourage them more!I don't understand how they have the rights to do these things, shouldn't personal information be kept personal?!

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I don't understand how they have the rights to do these things, shouldn't personal information be kept personal?!

That's the $64,000 question, sadly.

  • Barclays: WON!!! It took four months but was totally worth it!
  • Cabot: I'm still waiting for an enforcable agreement, more than a year after requesting it. Go on, Uncle Ken, take me to court if you dare. You know you want to!
  • Elephant.co.uk: VICTORY - they admitted there was no debt!
  • Ashbourne Management (gym membership): Finally got my default removed and out-of-court settlement; I'm not finished with them yet!

<--- If I've been helpful please remember the scales ;)

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IF you do decide to check your file with some of the CRAs cough Equifax cough you should be aware that you will get more letters from other DCAs chancing their arm and trying to pin an old debt on you. Not only that but you will find a remarkable number of loan offers appear through the post. Hardly a coincidence. DCAs and CRAs work very closely together in what couild be cynically described as an incestuous relationship

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