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Thanks. Time to move on this. 1. You need to tweak the magnificent WS that dx suggested. Adapt it to your case. It should take you about half an hour (I recently wrote a WS from scratch during a train journey which wasn't optimum 😂 with lots of cross referencing and it took me an hour an half, you have one already cooked thanks to dx). 2. We will add bits to ridicule VCS's WS - it's rich that they moan about your defence being standard when their Particulars of Claim are too and also include the rubbish about keeper/driver that has been criticised numerous times by the courts. 3. Who wrote their WS? Was it Mohammed Wali or Ambreen Arshad or have they got someone new? 4. We need to see a good chunk of VCS's exhibits. I don't get why we have to keep asking you for things rather than them being volunteered. Isn't it obvious that we can't help you compile a decent WS if we can't see what the other side is arguing? All their silly signs aren't needed, but any contract with the landowner is important as are all the photos of your vehicle. 5. You've never shown us the court order which fixes the hearing date. It should be obvious we need to see what the court has ordered. This is the second time we've asked. 6. VCS were using Elms Legal. Are Elms Legal still involved? -
By occysrazor · Posted
As per my post above, I believe they are attending - either themselves or a representative on their behalf, as I have not received any notice either by post/email that says otherwise -
I actually did one better and came to a settlement, didn't cost me a penny. so great result...case closed. Many thanks for your help, much appreciated. -
By Badtimes123 · Posted
Yeh interesting happenings here, different to most. As there is a Judgement, it needs to be set aside and on your N244 you will state why at point 3 "What order are you asking the court to make and why?" You really need to check the Credit file to understand the CCJ before submitting any court docs -
Yes if /after you successfully set a side first using the n244...if your application fails there is no DQ
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