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    • No hard or fast rules ...if you have referred to it or intend to refer to it and rely on a document as evidence it goes on the list as an exhibit. No you can raise that within your statement but remember that sec 69 is at the discretion of the court a judge may allow the full amount claimed or reduce it to a lower % or none at all. Yes the claimant must serve their N265 on you...any document on theirs that you do not have you can request a copy and then use in your statement. Will it assist your defence ?
    • Hi all, I have previously been helped by the wonderful people on these forums, which helped me out of debt and to a much stronger position that I am in today, for which I am eternally grateful. My debts were all cleared, I now have no debt (apart from a mortgage) and an excellent credit file. I did also show my gratitude with a donation, which even if it helps just one other person out of spiralling debt, it would have been worth it. Sadly, my elderly parents did also run up some debts a few years ago, some through loans and some through credit cards. A few years ago, my father had a medical episode which has left him paralysed on one side of his body and now is confined to a wheelchair, and is pretty much non verbal (he can only manage a handful of words, and gets confused easily). I'm seriously not sure how far any County Court Action would get against him due to his current state, if any of the DCAs were to proceed down that route. Luckily nonw have tried, but can only think that any action would be discontinued by a judge. Before his medical episode he did set up a payment plan with some of the DCAs that were chasing him, which have continused being paid to this day from his bank account. They are literally minimum amounts, but obviously these actions have kept those debts current. However, some of the other debts have since become statutory barred due to the time elapsed since the last COA. My mum does have Power of Attorney over his financial affairs so can act on his behalf, with me as backup if god forbid anything happens to my mum. Their wills are set up for everything to go to the other should either of them pass away, and then to their children upon the passing of both of them, with myself being named as the executor on both of their wills. I have recently been reading up on the role of an executor, and part of the duties is to pay any outstanding liabilities before distributing the remainder of the estate. I have seen, in several instances, of a recommendation of posting about any death in the local newspaper column and the gazette to limit any future liabilities as executor in case of any debts that are unknown to myself. But this does lead me onto the debts I do know about. Am I right in thinking that the current debts that my dad has been making token payments on would have to be repaid in full to the DCAs upon his death? If that is the case, is it worth negotiating a full and final settlement, with a discount, on his behalf now? And with the debts that are statutory barred, am I correct in presuming that they would not need to be paid upon my dad's death as they wouldn't be legally enforcable in court? Thanks in advance for all of your help!
    • Hello AndyOrch For the n265 please would the below list of documents be sufficient ? 1. Pre-Action protocols. Claimant confirmation that they have not complied or have only partially complied (last page of claimants N181 Direction Questionnaire) Dated 16/04/2024 2. Copy of the Lease - Dated 4th September 1998 3. Statement of account (up to 1st Feb 2024) - Dated 20/02/2024 (This shows a slightly different balance to the one included in the Claim form as theirs was only up to 24th Jan 2024) 4. CPR 31.14 Request - Dated 28/02/2024   With regards to the Claimants claim for interest under Section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 where the amount is incorrectly calculated due to the account balance and also appears to be duplicated, should I list their POC ? Additionally should I include any e-mail exchanges (I don't have all as some went to junk and auto deleted due to an issue with my e-mail account and I was reliant on my phone for seeing e-mails) ? I don't have the last e-mail that was sent prior to the claim being issued. I guess that I can ask the claimant for a copy of this one ? The claimant has refused to action the CPR 31.14 request.  Regarding the Section 20 notices relating to the major works, should I include if we have a copy ? Is there anything else that I should include in the list relevant to our defence ? Will the claimant send us a similar list via N265 ? They did include a Continuation Sheet with their N244 giving a background of the case. Just wondering how we know all of the documents that they will rely on.   As always really appreciate any help and guidance that you can provide.
    • What was the agreement start date you have obscured on the Termination Notice ? How much was added from the previous loan ?
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I will wait until I received the amended report from Equifax as they duplicated entries and when I drew this to their attention last week they said that they would send me out a new report. I was also told that a trace would only last one year and on my report one trace was on there over a year. I just do not believe them when they say everything drops off after 6 years as Equifax report clearly not correct. if I had not done a CRA check then I would never have know about these entries and it would have ended up on my file for god know how long.

 

Who are these people that are suppose to be looking after our data - it all seems very dangerous to me.:rolleyes:

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I just do not believe them when they say everything drops off after 6 years as Equifax report clearly not correct.

 

I think you'll find the CRA's don't say the old data 'drops off'. In truth it will be date-barred and it is their IT system that permits what entries to display. For argument's sake, lets assume the ICO decides after intense lobbying that credit data should be available for a longer period than at present (say 10 years instead of 6 - and lets remember the 6 years isn't enshrined anywhere as a fixed period of any sort). At a stroke, all 10 years of your existing data will magically appear on your file. Data is worth a lot of money, and the CRA's and going to let anything 'drop off' if they can possibly make a buck out of it.

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Buzby - I agree with what you say they will keep as much as possible on their files if they are going to make a buck out of it.

 

I feel that all this data about people which affects peoples lives should be control by the government and not keep to make a profit from. Does this mean that date can be kept on CRA files forever?:|

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Forgot to mention that I have just heard on the bbc news that Experian has lot 11% off their share due to what is happening in America. I feel sooooooooo sorry for them as this poor people should not be feeling the crunch!!!!!

 

Also, does if also mean now that Barclays Bank has lost over 1 billion due to the Credit crunch in America, will they go chasing us peoples now with mortgages, loans credit cards, if they should get in arrears though no fault of their own, so that Barclay can make up their losses????????????:?

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Actually, I don't trust the government with it either. Their PPP would ensure they'd sell the right to store the data to a 'carefully selected' and approved supplier. Yes right! I'd trust my family with my data, but no-one else! :)

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Well I never did! Has anyone seen the latest figures from the Credit Services Association?

CSA POSTS LATEST PREDICTIONS ON DEBT

 

CSA POSTS LATEST PREDICTIONS ON DEBT

 

Date: 13-11-2007

The Credit Services Association (CSA), the voice of the debt collection industry, has posted its preliminary predictions for 2007/8 for the amounts passed to its members for collection.

 

The CSA believes that the figure for the total passed for collection will rise to c£22.7 billion by the end of 2007, and that this figure will increase to between £23.9bn - £24.3bn by the end of 2008, although it warns the real figures may be higher still.

 

Work from independent consultants suggest that growth in debt sales over the next three to four years is likely to increase by 20%+ per annumbased on the fact that the debt mountain may be reaching its peak: consumers are tightening their belts against the background of a credit squeeze and access to credit is becoming increasingly difficult as lenders tighten their lending scorecards.

 

The speed of the ‘new’ debt is also going to be increasing. Over-indebtedness will be accelerated by more fixed-rate mortgages becoming variable at higher rates and access to new credit becoming harder.

 

The rise in the LIBOR, and the fact that most UK lenders have still not announced losses that may be linked to the US sub prime exposure, could also exacerbate the situation.

 

Total debt passed for collection:

 

September 00 £5.2 billion

 

September 03 £8.6 billion

 

September 06 £21 billion (this figure comprises £15 billion ‘traditional’ underlying debt and £6 billion of

debt sale*)

 

* The rate of growth in the underlying debt worked by the industry will in future be made up of ‘new’ debt coming in for collection as well as some of the ‘worked’ debt coming out.

Gone up quite a bit then hasn't it?:rolleyes:

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How much of that is unenforceable?

BANK CHARGES

Nat West Bus Acct £1750 reclaim - WON

 

LTSB Bus Acct £1650 charges w/o against o/s balance - WON

 

Halifax Pers Acct £1650 charges taken from benefits - WON

 

Others

 

GE Money sec loan - £1900 in charges - settlement agreed

GE Money sec loan - ERC of £2.5K valid for 15 years - on standby

FirstPlus - missold PPI of £20K for friends - WON

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Experian Prospect Locator

Experian is looking like a goldmine for enterprising Debt Collection Agencies.

Have a click through the tabs on that webpage and you'll see the wealth of information they offer on every citizen in the UK.

Now who's to say that my theoretical company couldn't buy the data?

I don't think I'd need a credit license.

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I also bet that theses people who have made the cock-up at the Banks will get big bonuses and maybe get a large golden handshake as well, they will not have to worry about door steppers turning up and harassing them. The poor people who have had no choice but to take out a mortgage, loan to get a roof over their head will be thrown out of their home and maybe left empty and be vandalised and bank would prefer that to happened to peoples home rather than letting the owners live in them – that is what has/is happening in America and it will follow here as well. :Cry:

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From Telegraph here:

Experian receives credit reality check

 

 

By Philip Aldrick

Last Updated: 12:44am GMT 16/11/2007

 

 

Credit checking group Experian has become the latest victim of the liquidity crunch after warning that organic sales growth will slow due to the turmoil in world financial markets.

The shares tumbled 44 to 430½p after chief executive Don Robert said: "We will be growing at a slower rate than hoped... the second half is likely to be slower than the second quarter, which posted 5pc organic growth."

Experian had guided the market to expect sustainable "mid-to-high single digit" performance.

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However, Mr Robert said that the group's problems "came on us rather quickly" in late August as banks started to rein in their discretionary spending as the turmoil "caused everyone to be cautious".

More than half Experian's revenues come from financial institutions who use its credit checking services when chasing new credit card or loan customers.

Mr Robert insisted the business will pick up again once the liquidity crisis is fully digested, though he would not put a timescale on this.

"We do know that these institutions cannot stop attracting new customers and they need us for that," he said.

The revelation came as Experian posted a 140pc increase in first-half profits to $285m pre-tax. Total sales rose 16pc to $1.95bn, but the figure was boosted by acquisitions.

Organic sales growth was 6pc, down from 7pc in the first quarter and 8pc in its previous financial year. Mr Robert said Experian will still meet its full-year forecasts.

Experian was helped by strong acquisition spend in the first half, which totalled $1.7bn – including $1.25bn for a majority stake in Brazil-based Seresa.

Finance director Paul Brooks said he would "expect a quieter second half" as debts have reached $3bn.

Experian, whose shares have slumped since demerging from retailer GUS at 562½p last October, will pay an interim dividend of 6.5 cents on February 1.

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More than half Experian's revenues come from financial institutions who use its credit checking services when chasing new credit card or loan customers.

Mr Robert insisted the business will pick up again once the liquidity crisis is fully digested, though he would not put a timescale on this.

"We do know that these institutions cannot stop attracting new customers and they need us for that," he said.

Use its credit checking services when chasing new credit card or loan customers.

 

Credit checking services used to chase new customers?

This isn't saying someone who's checking the credit file of an applicant for a credit card or loan, is it? It's saying 'chasing new customers' - ie. trying to get new customers!

In other words, more than half the revenue comes from businesses interested in the information they provide, to find new customers. Which means using Experian's 'marketing expertise' and 'uparallelled access' to data on UK citizens. Look at that sentence, "We do know that these institutions cannot stop attracting new customers and they need us for that... "

Does any of this balance in any way with the apparent offer of a 'free credit check'?

They are information brokers, and there's a hell of a lot of stuff going on under the surface.:evil:

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Use its credit checking services when chasing new credit card or loan customers.

 

Credit checking services used to chase new customers?

 

I don't think there's any way you could interpret that as consensual processing. Might be worth referring a complaint to the ICO?

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Dam - I miss that, I am having so much trouble with Equifax regarding my data, they have been duplicating entries on my report which I am contacted them about also they are leaving data on my file that should have fallen off as confirmed by them but it is still on my file. This organisation has such gall it is beyond belief.

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I missed it too A1. Will see if they're showing it online.

Allwood - top stuff about Equifax, saw your earlier posts. Just sorry they can cause so much distress and not apparently give a flying fig about the actual people the credit records are about! :evil:

The 'trace' from BCW we both had on Equifax is so going to be chased up by us. It's part of a much bigger TSB thing.

But tomorrow it's DLC... We're going to ring the Land Registry for an appointment, taking the letter DLC sent me. I don't think the Land Registry are in any way involved the way CRAs are, but I'd like to see if a 'successful application' by DLC (which sounds very official) was actually recorded anywhere on our Land Registry record.

Things for us are at a snail's pace at the minute, as we're both under the weather. But we'll catch up soon! :)

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