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    • Is the letter headed Letter of Claim/before Claim or similar? If not, it sounds like more of the threatogram chain. If you're not sure, post up an anonymised copy of the letter and we'll check. HB
    • So guess what, we have received a final demand letter for £100. It states if payment is not made by 11/06 they will have no option but to forward the case to their litigation dept with a view to commence County Court Proceedings. So just wondering if anyone has any advice. Do we ignore this? or do we need to take action? Thanks 
    • hi dx, thanks for helping just re-reading everything this morning and I must have missed this one from uncle in his thread "What you should not do, is not contact the Banks and simply default on payments. "  are you in disagreement with this based on your last sentence?
    • Thanks for the reply and clarification, that might just explain why in my case contact has pretty much ceased. Though with such companies it doesn't mean they won't ever threaten to return to court as a tool to force one's hand if they feel they are not self informed on their chances etc.  But concerning how last year they tried to use the CCJ to get a charging order and the court granted an intirum order on our mortgage using the CCJ that would have been a good 2-3 months beyond the 6 years, should the court not have checked the age of the CCJ in the first case or would they always grant an interim order simply off the back of a CCJ being produced without even checking the age of it?.  Had I not defended that action at the time they may well have got a default using a CCJ older than 6 years which could be a concern going forwards. At the time when I contacted the court to question the paperwork for a final order application the clerk suggested people don't get informed when companies apply for interim charging orders, they are automatic if a claimant has a CCJ and people only get contacted once a date for a final order application goes through. kind of begs the question if such companies can continue a seemingly backdoor method to attempt default action if un-defended if the initial application doesn't need to check the age of a CCJ?.
    • Hello!  Wondering if someone can help with this.  I suspect not but worth a go.  I appreciate the "contract is with the seller" line, which is what Evri has fed me but wanted to see if someone with experience in these things could suggest anything else I could do here.  I appreciate there are many topics about lost parcels - My parcels weren't lost, until the driver walked up to my door with them and then decided to make them lost/stolen... I'll summarise what has happened.  Wednesday of last week - Evri delivery driver stole / walked off with 3 of my parcels.  -  Arrived outside my properly, took photos (3 separate photos as its 3 separate deliveries) of the tops of the parcels (pointlessly zoomed in on just the labels, couldn't see anything else, other than a small piece of the pavement and a little weed, which doubly confirms it was outside my door as I can see the same plant), marked the order as delivered and walked off with them.  He's marked on the Evri GPS marked that he was outside.   -  3 different deliveries, from the same company (same boxes etc.), but 3 separate tracking numbers. -  Went through the Evri bot which opened a case on each tracking number.  I then phoned them and left a voicemail explaining what had happened. -  24 hours later had a canned response asking me if the packages had turned up and to check around etc..  I responded explaining again what happened and that they've definitely been taken. -  4 days later,  this morning, I get a response telling me to ask the merchant to refund me. I've responded to this message with a long email, repeating what I said, that I believe the driver has stolen these packages and that he took those suspicious top down shots of the packages, marked them as delivered without ringing or knocking etc.  I've said that I expect them to investigate further, but I gather they won't. In my several messages to them initially and later, I told them I don't care about a refund and wanted the parcels.  They contain some sentimental stuff, nothing of high monetary value, hence me going to this trouble.  I only paid £25 for the contents. I did contact the merchant when this first happened and they asked me to wait a few days.  They ended up refunding me despite me asking them not to and that I wanted them to escalate it with Evri because this appears to be a case of theft.  They didn't seem bothered - Refunded me and told me to go back to Evri and escalate it with them? So - Is there any way to compel Evri to conduct a proper investigation with this driver?  Search for my parcels? I have quite a lot of deliveries handled by Evri (not out of choice) - They used to have a fantastic chap and I rarely had any issues.  He has been replaced by a new guy and I believe the route is handled by this same guy who I believe has taken my packages.  Naturally, I fear this is going to happen again in the future if no investigation occurs. Appreciate any assistance - Thanks for reading. Al.  
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but still send the letter though! strengthens your case against them.

Me Vs AA/Blair Oliver - Defaulted on CCA, Committed Criminal Offence, started chasing payment

 

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/74209-me-littlewoods-catalogue.html

 

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/75075-my-friend-lowell-victory.html

 

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Richard or DICK for short is whistling in the wind for some money. Should he have managed to get through to you it would have been as my Simian friend says some cock and bull nonsense. Useless Ruthless have failed to produce the CCA and therefore are not in any position to demand you ring them. In the unlikely event they produce an executed CCA without flaws then you can talk to them. Ignore all ther calls and threats. KEEP A LOG OF THEM ALL FOR LATER :) )You have the law and CAG on your side. So if you are reading this DICK please dont bother ManF any more. We have our eyes on you and your disreputable organisation.

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right guys heres an update ive just got home and ive had 3 letter 2 from you know howand 1 telegram its gonna be quite a long post i do apologise but im writing everything thats in the letter

 

telogram 17th August 07

 

dear blah blah

 

we are currently holding a message for you under message reference ======

 

TO RETRIVE THIS MESSAGE,PLEASE CONTACT one of our customer service reps on ===== ======

the message will be deleted from the telgram system on 23rd AUG

WHEN CALLING PLEASE QUOTE THE MESSAGE REF AS SHOWN ABOVE

 

i dont have a clue who its from any ideas ??????????

 

next one from RUTHBRIDGE DATED 20th August

 

COURT WARNING NOTICE

 

the above overdue account had been passed to our enforcement division due to non-payment

A county court claim form is due to be served seven days from the date of this notice and any subsequent proceddings would then take place at Kingston County Court

to prevent these proceddings being entered agaisnt you,which will incluse costs and back dated interest,you must contact the enforcement officer immediately on the abve telephone no to discuss the options available to you

any cheques drafts or postal orders should be sent to the above add and made payable to ruthbridge ltd with our ref no clearly stated at all times or you can make a payment by usuing credit card on the abve no

 

sorry its long

the 3rd one

 

dated 20th AUG

 

dear blah blah

 

as we have been unable to gain contact with you,its now imperative that you call our offices on the above tele no as a matter of urgency in order to discuss your ac in further detail

please ensure when calling quote yur ref no

we anticipate your reply within the next 72 hours

 

thats its guys what shall i do now im really crapping myself now im shaking like a leaf again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Manf,

 

CHILL! These are just more threats!

You know who this supposed 'message' is from, don't you? They're just trying to get you to contact them. Ignore it!

Their 'court warning' is a heavier version of the same thing. Can I just make it clear to you:

 

IF THEY HAVE NOT PRODUCED THE CCA YOU ASKED FOR, THEY WILL BE KICKED OUT OF THE COURT!

 

Write to them - 'I would welcome the chance to go to the County Court and allow you to explain why you have brought a case to court without any evidence, and wasted the time of the court.'

 

Just threats and more threats. They have NOTHING, and are just trying to intimidate you. :mad:

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Hi manf as oneofakind say write to them asking how they are going to take you to court when they cannot produce any agreement include the following I have used this before to effect.

 

"May I remind you that I have requested a True Copy of the Original Credit Agreement, containing all the required prescribed terms as per the act, and enclosing true copies of all documents referred to in it, specifically the Terms and Conditions that were in effect at the inception of the agreement, plus all variations to them since. I support this request with County Court Pre-Action Protocol 4.6 ( c ) ."

 

This is part of my letter to Littlewoods after they defaulted on my CCA request. Littlewoods then folded.

 

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Hi manf,

 

I had the same letters last week from out friends so don't worry, they always send these letter when it's a holiday or weekend coming up just to make you feel bad just put them with all the other letter that is what i have done, :)

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Manf

Do not worry.

As everyone has told you this is a Ruthless standard scary letter. Its very simple NO CCA=NO COURT CASE.

 

Let the idiots make all kinds of empty threats. Obviously now they are getting desperate. They have made a couple of glowing errors on their supposed Court letter but there is no point in letting them know on an open forum because we know they are reading it.

 

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES PHONE THEM. You may want to use a public call box to telephone the supposed telegram number just to confirm for your harrasment complaint that its RUTHLESS ringing you. If they had sufficient evidence to merit a court case they would have done so long ago and would not be sending you scary letters. Contact any of us by PM if there is anything we can help you with regarding this shower. Dont let them worry you. We have taken on a defeated people a lot more professional than Ruthless

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hi guys ive just sent a letter in the post to remind ruthbridge that their 12 days have been and gone and they have until the 12 th of september to comply....................... i pm'd dpick and he sent me back a letter so ive typed it up at work and i will post it off in the morning just thought i would keep you all updated;)

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hi guys ive just sent a letter in the post to remind ruthbridge that their 12 days have been and gone and they have until the 12 th of september to comply....................... i pm'd dpick and he sent me back a letter so ive typed it up at work and i will post it off in the morning just thought i would keep you all updated;)
Personally I really think you should wait until the 12th September when the commit the summary offence. Its not your job to remind Ruthless that they are in default. They will use your letter as an excuse to ring you up to discuss the matter for the sake of another couple of weeks I would wait. Then you can report the arrogant imbeciles direct to TS

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manf, you really should of waited.

There's NO point in reminding them as they know the law.

NEVER point out their failings until you have a cast iron case with which to use.

 

Well what's done is done.

Be VERY careful whose advice you listen too

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Manf as we told you before the onus is on RUTHLESS not you. Next time you feel like helping them DONT. Just think of some of the sh!tty things they have told you on the fone. If you waith the Calendar Month you can report them directly to TS as well as sending them one of Curlybens very effective BOG OFF letters. By the time the month is up you will know they have diddly squat and can sleep easy in the knowledge they can do sweet FA to you. They will get bored and move on to some other victim to [problem]. Its unfortuante for the Piers Morgan at Ruthless that drew your account wont get his/her monthly blood money but hey this is life and sh!t happens:D

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