Help To Find Madeleine McCann

[bathgatebuyer]

I hope to god that someone still has her, and is looking after her in a way that won't hurt her. The only thing that matters at the moment is her safe return and that those responsible are dealt with in the most appropriate manner possible.

[gyzmo]

I believe indeed that this is not the place to discuss this particular missing person case or any other one if it does not relate to the purpose of the forum, and that the whole thread should be deleted.

 

I also find it objectionable that one cause, due disproportionate media attention, is allowed to be put on this site, when there are dozens of worthy equally worthwhile causes not given a mention.

[sandbag]

If you have objections to a ' non- consumer issue' thread then don't read it.

We are simply showing that we care about a missing child - and all the other missing children in the world.

There are plenty of threads about consumer issues for you to read.

 

Sandbag.

[gyzmo]

If you have objections to a ' non- consumer issue' thread then don't read it.

We are simply showing that we care about a missing child - and all the other missing children in the world.

There are plenty of threads about consumer issues for you to read.

 

Sandbag.

 

If there is so much care for all the other missing children, then where are all the posts and campaigns and news coverage (ad nauseam) for them? Where are all the gangs of volunteers, all the (rather pointless, imho) ribbons, the rememberance masses and vigils? Where are the crocodile tears for such people who we don't know or have not cared about unless we are told to do so by the media? The hypocrisy is amazing.

 

As for not reading posts that I find objectionable, look at all my other posts. They are to viewpoints that are objectionable (in that they are completely wrong). Were people not to read them and post, then this or any other forum would not get very far would it?

 

My point is that this thread has no place in this forum.

[buzby]

I quite agree. This is a forum for consumer issues - the Moderators appear unwilling to act in removing subject matter that is being discussed ad nauseum elsewhere. The CAG Forum is not a place to discuss the news of the day (unless it relates to consumer matters). Conspiracy theories, Diana and missing children are more properly dealt with elsewhere. Keep the bandwidth for consumer issues.

[sandbag]

Needless to say we are not going to agree on this issue. Therefore I will cry my crocodile tears in private.

 

Sandbag.

[demon_x_slash]

This should be in Bear Garden, or removed - I agree that this is not the place for this sort of subject. Maybe it should be locked until another OT forum is set up?

 

I think when referring to 'crocodile tears', sandbag, gyzmo was talking about the various media organisation that pretend to care now - but as soon as a politician gets caught with his trousers down, or a celebrity's cat gets stuck up a tree, will turn their cameras away from Madeline's case like a shot. See my post on the same theme above.

[basil the birman]

Nobody with an ounce of heart could fail to wish for the safe return of this child regardless of the reasons surrounding her disappearance.

 

I'm not trying to point fingers here at all but I must admit to a lot of curiosity as to why they didn't use the childminding services available, especially as they are relatively well off. I mean even if you take abduction out of the equation it is just so much easier than trekking back to your room every 15/30 mins to check on them.

 

Anyway, the point I want to make is this: I wonder just how keen the media/celebrities/footballers etc would have been to jump on the bandwagon if this child and her family were your average Mr + Mrs. Joe Bloggs from a council estate rather than the middle class Doctor/Consultant family that they are.

I somehow suspect there would be little to zero money in a reward fund, nowhere near as much 'good' publicity and much more media vilification of the bad parenting skills of said working class, cigarette smoking, beer swilling, council house renting people.

 

By the way - before anyone gets too mad with me - I am a working class council house renter. Also, when my son was about 18mths old he went missing from right outside my front door. Someone had opened my gate and he'd gone for a walk in his jammies and little bunny slippers. It took 2/3 mins to discover him missing, and racing out to the street I heard a neighbour from across the road shouting that someone had just put my son in a car and driven off before they could stop him. There are no words to describe the feelings of this time and the thoughts that go through your head; to say this was the worst moment of my life does not even come close. Fortunately for us, this ordeal 'only' lasted about 2hrs and ended happily with no harm of any kind to my son and the police were fantastic arriving within 5 mins of calling. He is now 21 yrs old but I still have difficulty revisiting this memory.

Here's the bit that will probably gobsmack everyone - the man who took him was a social worker!!! He saw him on the road, took him to his home and called the police immediately but the mind boggles as to his reasons for this, I don't think it takes a lot of brains to realise that an 18mth child in jammies and slippers can't have come very far from home so why not knock on a few doors.

 

Anyway, my reason for sharing this with you is to show that I do not have it in for the parents, I totally understand how they are feeling because I have unfortunately been there. My heart goes out to them regardless of how this happened and though I doubt it will happen now I hope they also have a good ending.

[Guest littlesally]

I don't think this has much to do with the family having money - Sarah Paynes family didn't and look at the press coverage she had.

For some reason, some missing children make big headlines.

Thank God they do, less we forget.

A few years ago the police took photo's of Bournemouth beach, they found 93 known paedophiles there! And parents let their children run around naked on the beach.

 

A friend of mine went on holiday in Portugal, she was going to have a hotel babysitter, then found out hardly any of them are police vetted! Maybe the Mccann's also found this out.

 

Slagging them off will not help them. I dare say no-one could say worse than they are saying to themselves. They have to live with their decision for the rest of their lives. It was ultimately the wrong choice, time can never change that, but how harsh the lesson!

 

I hope and pray the family get through this, whatever the outcome.

Sally x

[patdavies]

Am I the only one feeling p*ssed off that this whole matter is being spammed across the whole board with somebody wanting us to text a number to raise funds to continue the publicity.

 

FFS, this is a consumer site, not a missing persons forum.

 

We hear of and advise on telephone scams frequently - how are we sure that this is not another?

 

(waits for this post to be moderated off)

[demon_x_slash]

It is annoying to go to what you think is a new post and see the same sticky repeated over and over. Everyone knows where to go to donate/volunteer/give information now, unless you've been buried in a steel box thirteen foot underground for the past two weeks. And I note that the text number doesn't tell you how to donate a certain amount, or how much the text will cost in the first place - I could text the number and be automatically taken for £25 plus text - I just don't know.

Also, isn't there a £2mil reward for her now? Do missing persons posters cost that much to print? I think people are getting a little caught up personally in the tragedy... as I've said before, this subject IMHO should be confined to an OT forum, or a stickie in 'General', not plastered over the whole site. I'll reiterate before people jump on my head - JMHO.

[Bookworm]

The way it has been posted has been approved by the site owners, folks.

[trubster]

I am really sorry about sounding negative, but I have looked on the "Official Find Madeline McCann Site" and... why are people still donating money??? Has anyone seen the figure on the site?

 

Donations of £901,234.89 have been received to the fund to date.

 

I cant remember nearly a million pounds cheque and a worldwide cruise being given to sarah paynes family

 

I dont see how all that money can really help, sorry.

[chocolatte]

I am really sorry about sounding negative, but I have looked on the "Official Find Madeline McCann Site" and... why are people still donating money??? Has anyone seen the figure on the site?

 

 

 

I cant remember nearly a million pounds cheque and a worldwide cruise being given to sarah paynes family

 

I dont see how all that money can really help, sorry.

I understand what you are trying to say here.

I hope they have returned home for the sake of their two other children and try to give them a sense of normality and stability in their little lives.

The McCanns are probably torn between the frustration of wanting to actively search and campaign for Madeleine's safe return and taking care of the children left behind.

The investigation is , of course, still ongoing, and in my opinion, they would probably benefit from being at home with their children trying to relieve their confused little minds.

I hope I haven't offended anyone, I am merely thinking of their welfare.

[trubster]

Same Here, I dont intend to be offensive, but I just cant see the point of throwing money at a problem like this... I cant begin to think what its like for the mccanns but I also wouldnt leave any of my children unattended, esp to go for a meal (if thats what it was...)

 

I hope she is found alive and well as well as everyone else who is missing

[demon_x_slash]

Bear Garden's back now - more appropriate there?

[gyzmo]

Have just been emailed a notification of a posting to this thread. It was, to understate the matter, rather tasteless (posted by captainlulz according to the email).

 

Whilst I abhor the continuous media frenzy on this one particular matter, I find such "jokes" pretty much tasteless and, imho, sick.

 

I take it the post has been deleted? If so, good.

[livelylad]

I have removed the post.