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    • Thanks in advance for advice! I was shocked to find out when doing a credit score search this weekend that I have a CCJ in my name. I've spoken to the courts today and have been told Vehicle control services have taken me to court for parking without a permit in my own allocated parking bay that came with my flat rental. The CCJ appears to be to the right apartment block but the wrong address.  It dates back to 2017. The judgement was passed in April 2021 without my knowledge of the ticket or the case ( presumably fine information was sent to the wrong address) I had already been taken to court by VCS previously for parking in my own bay and I won. It seems to me that this is underhanded behaviour from VCS as they had my address from previous interactions and had tried taken me to court for something that a judge had previously ruled on. I'm seeking advice on next steps. I was told by court that i can raise a dispute on the CCJ but I also want to appeal the case altogether. Should I be filing an  N244 Application Notice with an N161? I was told I should pay the court £303. Now that I've got home and had a look, there is a long list of court fees so I'm not sure which is applicable. I was also told the £303 is not refundable. Should I be filing a counterclaim or is that something that can be done at a later date. Ultimately I feel disgusted at having a ccj and then having to pay for the privilege of getting it removed. Any advice on how to make VCS pay for this would be appreciated!
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I wouldnt put it past you and think trsyt is correct on this point. I would guess bailiffs dont have to often pay full price for electrical high value goods:roll::roll::roll::eek:

 

yes i know of a bailiff that paid £3.99 for a 99 inch tv so it must be true :rolleyes:

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They need only pay what the estimated value that the item is expected to get at auction. If an item has been estimated at £150, that is all they need to pay, no matter what it's actual value may be. For obvious reasons, estimations are within reasonable limits but an estimation of a 1.5K+ laptop would be around £250 which is an average for reasonably new laptop and doesn't take into account what is inside it. If they know it's a top of the range laptop, it soon gets earmarked and never reaches the auctions.

 

Don't deny this, I dated someone who worked in the admin section of a well known company in Bromley South. I learned a lot of secrets about how bailiffs operate, even down to taking items they are not actually allowed to take because the debtor didn't know what could and couldn't be taken by a bailiff.

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They need only pay what the estimated value that the item is expected to get at auction. If an item has been estimated at £150, that is all they need to pay, no matter what it's actual value may be. For obvious reasons, estimations are within reasonable limits but an estimation of a 1.5K+ laptop would be around £250 which is an average for reasonably new laptop and doesn't take into account what is inside it. If they know it's a top of the range laptop, it soon gets earmarked and never reaches the auctions.

 

Don't deny this, I dated someone who worked in the admin section of a well known company in Bromley South. I learned a lot of secrets about how bailiffs operate, even down to taking items they are not actually allowed to take because the debtor didn't know what could and couldn't be taken by a bailiff.

 

If you get time tryst, it would be interesting to here of what the the bailiffs get up to:)

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They need only pay what the estimated value that the item is expected to get at auction. If an item has been estimated at £150, that is all they need to pay, no matter what it's actual value may be. For obvious reasons, estimations are within reasonable limits but an estimation of a 1.5K+ laptop would be around £250 which is an average for reasonably new laptop and doesn't take into account what is inside it. If they know it's a top of the range laptop, it soon gets earmarked and never reaches the auctions.

 

Don't deny this, I dated someone who worked in the admin section of a well known company in Bromley South. I learned a lot of secrets about how bailiffs operate, even down to taking items they are not actually allowed to take because the debtor didn't know what could and couldn't be taken by a bailiff.

 

Very interesting.

 

Tryst, just a few questions...

 

Who killed Diana? Who shot JFK? Did man land on the moon? :rolleyes:

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Very interesting.

 

Tryst, just a few questions...

 

Who killed Diana? Who shot JFK? Did man land on the moon? :rolleyes:

Are these trick questions

Man didnt land on the moon it was a space craft controlled by man which landed on the moon. ;) not that I believe it of course.

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Very droll.

 

HCE, just a few answers...

 

Who killed Diana? I believe she was being chased by a bailiff ... Who shot JFK? A bounty hunter? Did a bailiff land on the moon? Yes, he thought he could levy on it... :D

 

 

My turn :p

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maybe he had a big bonfire of the plants he got @ the last walking - nick your goods from some poor sod, and because they didnt flower, he's getting them fumes now ( 7 pointed leaves )

 

so who is he really

 

Ian Beale from CS :confused:

 

a dreamer :rolleyes:

 

or really Elvis :eek:

 

:D

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Are these trick questions

Man didnt land on the moon it was a space craft controlled by man which landed on the moon. ;) not that I believe it of course.

 

That's a fair point seanamarts.:)

 

The original point was that I just dont believe that bailiffs somehow 'buy' goods on the cheap that are seized from debtors.

 

Goods go to auction and the highest bidder wins. Unfortunately, the goods are sold as seen so yes, a laptop that cost £1500 6 months ago would to the bidder just be a laptop that might not work. £100 if you're lucky I'd say. Also, the chances are the bidder hasnt done any research on the laptop model and is probably unaware of its original cost.

 

Removal really is the last thing anybody wants. It's a pain for the bailiffs and pain for the debtor.

 

But, if the debtor cannot make payment or have a sensible arrangement agreed then it really is the bailiffs only choice.

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ps. I out of interest on behalf of friend rang up a bailiff a while ago and said was only on income support etc... blah blah blah was the attitued received. They wanted 50.00 week for parking ticket and he only got 64.00 odd a week.

 

We instead took information to council who promptly wiped the ticket clean and said were going to speak to their bailiffs.

 

Bailiff = money grabbing scu*

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If you are on benefits, there is a certain amount that you can offer and they must take it. I believe they cannot refuse an offer of £3.50 per week or more for a single person on JSA. You can find out what the minimum amount you can offer is from the Jobcentre if you ask.

 

I am currently paying off a council tax bill of £1100 at £2.50 per week since I am on JSA right now. I would have to notify them if I start work so it can be revised.

 

Edit: If they get pushy, inform them that you want it made as an attachment to your benefit so it is paid at source before you get it. They won't get much more than £3.50 per week at most that way and cannot hound you with visits and threats while that attachment is in force.

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As I said above the councils are just as much to blame as in many cases they are effectively there employers.

 

Like our council the revenues dept is run by capita and inturn they use there own bailiffs Equita.

 

They wanted £356.00 out of me by this Thursday I had already paid £351 leaving just £100 to pay them that is £57.50 to the council which is on the bill and £42.50 bailiff fee.

 

No bailiffs had called no levy had been done all I had was 3 letters which they say they put though my door.

 

That is *ull as they came via post as I watched the postman put them though.

 

Oh and I have noticed this council tax year the liability order cost has gone up 100% from £40 to £80 this costs them no more that £4.

 

Yes these councils run by capita are a rip off and a disgrace considering they are there to serve us.

 

PF

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Rollocks. Bailliff doesnt accept 'sensible' agreements unless it means pay ammount over the odds that someone will struggle to pay and get in more trouble.;)

 

You must remember that the bailiff is technically there for goods not money. The money is a bi-product of enforcement.

 

To be honest, £3.50 per week on a £1000 debt isnt really acceptable in my eyes. The bailiff should remove and sell the debtors goods in those circumstances. However, then were into the problem of the value of household goods at auction again.... :-(

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ps. I out of interest on behalf of friend rang up a bailiff a while ago and said was only on income support etc... blah blah blah was the attitued received. They wanted 50.00 week for parking ticket and he only got 64.00 odd a week.

 

We instead took information to council who promptly wiped the ticket clean and said were going to speak to their bailiffs.

 

Bailiff = money grabbing scu*

 

Council's regularly pressure Bailiff's to clear up debts as quickly as possible.

 

It is not unreasonable for the bailiff to request £50 per week. He will know he is unlikely to get it and may settle for £30...

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You must remember that the bailiff is technically there for goods not money. The money is a bi-product of enforcement.

 

To be honest, £3.50 per week on a £1000 debt isnt really acceptable in my eyes. The bailiff should remove and sell the debtors goods in those circumstances. However, then were into the problem of the value of household goods at auction again.... :-(

 

 

HCE The bailiff was out of order. My friend had just come out of hospital and I rang when he was worrying how he would afford food if he gave them all that. Surely a decent bailiff would have suggested a person on beneifts could have a nominal ammount took out directly. No they dont becaue they are robbers in my view. Oh and as to belongings my friend had 40 year old carpet and old fashioned furniture from the ark of no value.

 

You side with what you feel is reasonable when you are not reasonable in your answer, what goes around comes around.

 

If on benefits and vulnerable how dare they pressure a person to the extent of not being able to eat, sickening low lifes:-x

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If you are in the vulnerable category then £3.50 to £5.00 per week is perfectly acceptable. The bailiff - highly trained and skilled - will be fully conversant with the National Standards and immediately pass the case back to the council ...

Rae

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The bailifflink3.gif - highly trained and skilled

 

Rae,

 

lol that's the funniest thing I've heard all day thanks for making me laugh :D

Finally if you succeed with your claim please consider a donation to consumer action group as those donations keep this site alive.

 R.I.P BOB aka ROOSTER-UK you have always been a Gent on these boards and you will be remembered for that.

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You're welcome PF.

For those who don't know me, I'd like to take this opportunity in pointing out that my tongue was firmly in my cheek - not one of HCEs ... :p

Best wishes

Rae

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