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Hi Mr Bandit,

 

I have to say I am most impressed with your will and persistence and I wish you the very best of luck with your claim.

 

I am starting my campaign for the meager amount £114 of unfair charges from the Natwest. I too will be starting a post on this most useful website this weekend.

 

I've already requested the amount back by letter to my branch manager and received a letter, which reads more like a penpal letter than a letter from a manager.I guess I'll be receiving a few more that are more official.

 

Thanks for your inspiration, and the motivation you have provided me with!

Regards,

Cptn. Chimpnut.

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Dear Sir

 

Our client considers that your challenge to its charges would fail in Court. Our Client believes that its charges are fair, reasonable and transparent. It considers that the amounts debited to your account have been applied strictly in accordance with your agreement with it and it's published tariff, which it is satisfied complies with all applicable laws and regulations. Our Client is also committed to ensuring the transparency of the information that it gives to its customers about the operation of its products. As such, our client does not believe that your claim has any prospect of succeeding.

 

However, as a gesture of goodwill and strictly on the basis that our client rejects any liability to you, it is willing to offer you a goodwill payment of £850.00.

 

Acceptance by you of this goodwill payment will be in full and final settlement of your claim against our client and strictly on the basis that:-

  1. you agree not to disclose to any third party the fact of, or any details relating to, this payment.
  2. you write to the Court withdrawing your claim.

Whilst this letter is written about prejudice save as to costs, in the event that you decline this offer we will draw this letter to the Court's attention on the basis that we hold the firm view that this offer is entirely reasonable in the circumstances. This offer will remain open for 7 days until Wednesday 27 September 2006.

 

We look forward to hearing from you.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Cobbetts LLP

 

hmmm offering 850 against 1226.03 before the 8% and 1455.72 after. Well, off to work, and think about what letter I'm gonna pen to them.

 

Bandit.

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Typical Cobbetts reply but they are not taking into account Mr.Bandits determination and resolve.

 

He has come a long way and endured so much on the journey.

His performance should be an example to us all.

 

Keep at em Mr.TB;)

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TB am having a look at this for you - and future reference.

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Bandit has your case been allocated yet?

 

By threatening to show the judge your letter it sounds like they are attempting to make a Part 36 offer, which isn't applicable to Small Claims.

 

I would suggest you wait until the allocation is received and if it is on the Small Claims Track then write an abrupt letter to the solicitors telling them 'NO' and also telling them that you recognise their bullying and intimidation and the fact that they are misrepresenting the true position as you are fully aware that the Small Claims Track excludes Part 36.

 

You might also want to turn their threat back on them and tell them that despite their letter being without prejudice, if the matter goes into court that you will bring it to the attention of the court and of the Law Society as an example of shabby and intimidatory behaviour.

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Everyone is getting the same letter at the mo, although I am not legally minded I am assuming from the way i have read it is that, you cant show the court this letter, but if you reject the offer they may use it against you?

 

I am going to be sending back a rejection letter tomorrow, which says I accept as partial and wont sign no agreement.

 

But what can be done about the without prejudice part?

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Logan a part 36 does not apply to small claims.

I hope I get the same letter I will have no hesitation in showing / sending this into court AND reporting them to the Law society.

 

Cobbetts need to be shown that such intimidation and a complete disregard to civil procedures rules has implications for those who have no excuse for not upholding it.

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What a thread, have been glued to monitor and read from the start.

I am at the start of a claim and have only recieved part of the statements so now know what a long road it will be to a conclusion.

 

Good luck bandit hopefully the end is very near for you.

 

Chuck

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S.A.R.s Signed for 23.08.06

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Non Compliance Sent 04.10.06

All Statements Recieved 18.10.06

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Prelim Reply Recieved 28.10.06

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Just phoned up the Court, they have literally just allocated my claim to small claims, so I'll be sending them this (borrowed/stolen from Michael Browne)

 

Dear Sir or Madam

 

 

Your Client:National Westminster Bank plc

Claim No: 6WY00633

 

 

I acknowledge and refer to your letter dated 19 September.

 

 

I respectfully decline your offer of £850.00 and request, once again, that you return to me all charges imposed to me on this account, interest and court fees, now totalling £1455.99.

 

 

I will accept the sum offered only as part settlement and only on the clear understanding that I will pursue recovery of the remainder.

 

 

I would be willing to withdraw the claim upon receipt of full unconditional settlement of my claim.

 

 

I trust this clarifies my position.

 

 

Yours faithfully

Toilet Bandit

 

Reckon it's good enough?

 

Bandit

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Sounds very good to me!!!! Your nearly there now. This is not only gonna be a victory its gonna be a stylish one at that!!!:D

 

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Co-op: £1140.00 Cheque received 5/10/06 SETTLED IN FULL

 

Barclays Bank: £510.00 (LBA time up 19/9/06) Offer received of £250.00 thanks but no thanks

 

Barclaycard: £840.00 Half refunded mcol being done for the other half!

 

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RBS: £38.00 SETTLED IN FULL 14th September 2006

 

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Reckon it's good enough?

 

Now that you know the case has been allocated to Small Claims then I suggest you consider writing something along the lines of what is in post #132.

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I absolutely agree. As they have said that if you don't accept their offer, then they will make the court aware of the letter, then as you haven't accepted their offer, you are open to carry out the same action, and get it in there before they do. Particularly as there is no way that they'd ever show that pathetic threat to the court voluntarily.

 

Stick it to them!

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They are doing exactly the same with RBS claimants which means they are intimidating a LOT of people,so cant even claim it was an oversight.

Time they were stopped :mad:

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Sounds good so far. Its odd though that my first two claims were settled swiftly. The last two have not and are now transferred to a Case Management Conference. Suddenly its a whole new ball game and it seems to depend on whether the local court has experienced judge or whether they pass the buck to a higher judge. This seems to be a growing trend.

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Crikey such a long thread, but I made it too the end LOL:D .

thank you all the inspiration, I need it as am sending my brothers sar for him next week.

Good luck after all the s**t they put you through you deserve the full amount.

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Tb Wiill surely be getting a result soon...............what are we gonna read then ??????:rolleyes:

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I decided to just leave the letter as it is, mainly because I don't really want to start spouting off about things I don't know about (like cobbett's) If I was fully clued up I would have mentioned Part 36 but I'll leave that to someone else for next time. :)

 

Let you know what happens....

 

Bandit

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Wow Bandit, you've done so well! I keep reading your thread as you've been so detailed.

 

I am currently taking on Natwest on behalf of my boyfriend but have a question about your charges; in the early part of your thread you ask about a random charge with no description:

 

"And another surprise, I had a charge for £33.03, and it wasn't an interest charge as I had already had one for that particular month, all the description said was a date, and my acct number :confused: anyone else had a 'funny' charge?"

 

Boyf's statements also had a few of these charges applied - did you include these, what are they?

 

Cheers and good luck x Smel x

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