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Obviously I'm ignorant and don't know the local area - but to me the images show the front of the car entering, and the rear of the car exiting, both times.

On a second point - do you have any proof of your being elsewhere during the two times they reckon you were three hours in the car park?

BTW, I've just done a search and we have 81 G24 threads apart from yours.  This is a company that huffs & puffs but very rarely does court.  In fact of the 81 cases, in 79 they haven't done court

In one court case sadly the Cagger didn't defend and lost by default.

In the second case G24 issued a court claim ...and then wet themselves and discontinued the case once the Cagger defended.

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T911, Nick, thanks, I got there in the end!

3 hours ago, T911 said:

I probably can find proof of being elsewhere I just haven't bothered to look because of the fact they messed up themselves and have 100% made a mistake or are simply trying their luck.

Without boring you with the details, it is precisely the most ridiculous cases that end up being lost - because the Cagger knows the other party's case is rubbish so doesn't do the necessary work on their own case.

G24 are well aware of double dipping.  They have either done it deliberately or else have cameras which can't handle multiple visits to the car park which G24 happily leave malfunctioning so the £££££ keep rolling in.

Sadly most people aren't like you.  I've just read various reviews for the Retail Park on TripAdvisor and Parkopedia.  Virtually all of them are complaining about these unfair charges for daring to spend time & money shopping in a shopping centre.  Yet no-one is refusing to pay.  They moan but think they have been fined and cough up.

G24 are unlikely to do court, but it's not impossible with two tickets.

Try to get evidence that you were elsewhere at these times.

Often retail parks will intervene, but I've Googled & Googled and cannot find an e-mail address for the place.  Could the manager of one of your favourite shops give you a contact e-mail address for the company that run the retail park?

Right at the moment I'm supposed to be teaching someone who runs two shops at the local shopping centre, but I'm not as he has had to go to a meeting with the company that runs the shopping centre, so I know for a fact that these business relationships exist!!!

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Well, that's it then.

Clear proof of the rubbish cameras.

Clear proof of double dipping.

G24 won't be getting a penny.

Belt & braces, I would write to the address LFI has found, include the evidence of double dipping, and ask Fraser Group to call their dogs off.

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On 02/05/2024 at 21:11, T911 said:

Had a look and sure enough its all there in my google timeline. Perfect. 

Care to briefly tell someone who isn't tech savvy - i.e. me! - how you did this?

Every day is a school day.

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Many thanks for this.

Of course I hadn't turned mine on!

But the function was easy to find and will be very useful for the future.

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