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    • hi all, i will list my curmcumstance first then list the details of the penalty charge - we are 2 diabled people being affected by the cost of living crisis and are skint etc. i am disabled with mobility issues(arthritis in knees and ankles and gout) and cant operate car pedals anymore so i let a friend up the road use my car in exchange for her driving me about. its a good arrangement as i get a 'chauffer' and she gets the use of car. the car is parked in her drive which is better as i was refused a disabled space (even on appeal) and too much congestion to park the car outside my house. my friend is vulnerable as she has suffered depression and suicidal thoughts since the loss of her mother a few years back, she is dyslexic, she is a carer for one of her sons that is disabled due to mental illness and mobility. she lives in a council house and cannot work. we went to iceland ..attracted by the 10items for £10 offer - we've never been there before. a large artic lorry was parked accross the car park blocking the view of one of the parking signs and blocking the disabled bays where the pay&display machine is. by the time she helped me out of the car and then went to see if it was pay&display then came back to me at the car she said she thinks it was pay even for disabled, so we looked for change in the car which we didnt have (she normally goes asda which dont need to pay for parking)so then we said we'd either go get change or go to asda...so then by the time it took her to help me back in and get out the car park took 15 minutes...5 minutes overstay past the 10minutes grace. the letter from excel parking came through and i sent it back giving her name as driver (before i saw on here that you shouldnt name the driver) then i appealed explaining what happened (lorry blocking etc) and even said we were being descriminated (advised by citizen advice)as we are disabled and 15minutes is not long enough for a crippled disabled man and a woman with dyslexia to read and understandd the sign and get out, then back in the car and look for change then get out the car park in 15minutes. i even explained she was a vulnerable person on anti-depressants and even sent a photo of medication and said if you need a doctors note then let me know....the appeal was rejected. i've emailed iceland over 50 times and they just wont tell excel to cancel this charge - they are ignorant and ive even asked them why they have a webpage saying 'iceland combatting the cost of living crisis' pretending to help their customers and they wont comment...they'd rather put more stress and anxiety on an already suicidal vulnerable person just to get money out of them..so their 'help' during this crisis is a lie as it wont even extend to disabled customers. she has now received 2 letters from DCBL saying she owes £170 for 5minutes of overstay. the last one is a final demand. as she cant read or write very well ive sent a recorded letter to DCBL (as advised by citizen advice) asking not to attend the property due to a vulnerable woman inside the property as it will only exasperate the situation, they have ignored it and basically said we dont care, you still owe. could anyone please advise - we are not very good with letters or these situations and are slow on the uptake.   1 The date of infringement? 28th dec 2023   2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] yes   If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   Has there been a response? yes   Please AS A PDF FILE  ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first.   Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] yes   What date is on it? 15th january 2024   Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? yes   [scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'scant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] not on the front - maybe on the back but cannot find the letter now   4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? [it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] yes   5 Who is the parking company? excel   6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? gravesend in iceland    
    • Hi Dave, I had no updates on this PCN since my last post in July 2019.  I received no further communications from the parking company.  I changed my address in May 2022. Thanks, I will send a letter to Excel parking to inform about the change in the address. 
    • I have a BMW Advanced Car Eye 3 Pro - I think it's 50/50  In any case, none of the documents / photos sent in the SAR showed a ticket on the car. 
    • I've seen on your other thread that you say you moved in 2022. It is essential you tell the parking company about your new address. Every couple of months or so we get someone here who moves, doesn't tell the other party they're in dispute with, court papers turn up at the old address, the Cagger doesn't know anything about this and doesn't defend, they lose by default - and end up with a backdoor CCJ. So get a quick letter off to Excel - Dear Simple Simon, Re: PCN no.XXXXX will you please note that I no longer live at XXXXX and that my new address is XXXXX. Yours, XXXXX Invest in a 2nd class stamp and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office.
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RRG Toyota Denton, Manchester - warranty issues


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Hi everyone,

I have an issue with toyota dealership,

I have bought a car from denton rrg Manchester on 02/02/2022 a 2021 plate toyota Corolla hybrid.

the car ran fine until 29/05/2023 then developed an electrical fault,

I took it to my local garage for check and they sent it to a dealer for diagnosis

the dealer told my local garage it was a wrong fuel issue, in that's why it cut off while running.

my local garage drained Out all fuel and refill with new E5 but the car still has the same problem,

I took it to different 3 garages but no one could fixe it s

I've sent it to dealer 2nd and 3rd time but the dealer stands on fuel issues, but it's not its clearly an electrical problem,

one of the garage came with fault code p3190 +B153A and they advised me this is the job has to be done under warranty. 

I have complaint to Toyota as well consumer, motor ombudsman,

I've sold my car for £8000 because I don't have parking space,

the car  I purchased for £23640

the mileage is 75831

do I have rights to continue with the dispute,

I will appreciate if anyone can advise me my next step.

Thank you 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to RRG Toyota Denton, Manchester - warranty issues
30 minutes ago, sylhet said:

I've sold my car for £8000 because I don't have parking space

sold what car? this faulty Toyota??

if its on HP finance , its not yours to sell!!

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

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and they

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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And some more detail please.

Which Toyota dealership did you purchased a vehicle from?
Which dealership advise you that it was a fuel issue?
How did the full manifest itself?
How did you pay for the car?

And as my site team colleague above has suggested, your post is confusing because we aren't certain whether you are referring to 2 cars or simply to one car.

I think you need to be a little clearer about giving is a careful and structured bullet pointed account of what has happened

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It's only one car and I purchased from Toyota rrg denton manchester, paid by debit card and bank transfer it's not finance I got personal loan from the bank. 

and I've sent to same dealer for diagnosis and they finally told me they can't do under warranty. 

 

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So this is not the car that you sold for eight thousand pounds?

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opps.

you do realise it was not your legal property to sell? you signed a finance agreement with xxxx (who?) they are the legal owners of the vehicle . did you get their permission to sell their property?

so bearing that in mind, how are you going to make any claim now against the retailer that sold it to you? ?(not that any warranty makes any odds at all. they mean nothing , not worth the paper they are written on) .

under your consumer laws and rights, you need to get a report done that concludes this fault was there at time of sale to send to the retailer demanding repair. and legally you should also be informing the owners you are doing so.

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I am the owner of the vehicle that's nothing to do with bank loan, when I got the loan the bank didn't know which car I am going to buy. 

so the bank loan is between me and the bank. 

when I bought the car it was fine no problem, the problem started after 15 month. 

I think this is clear to you. 

Thank you 

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well it is now.

ok good thats better.

its not a HP agreement or any agreement where the car is named? just to be clear please?

so, forget what they are saying about warranty, means nothing.

you now have to produce a report (if you dont already have one) that concludes the fault must have been there at point of sale and send that to Toyota rrg denton manchester, citing your consumer rights/laws etc etc.

you are now 18mts into the purchase, quite frankly it will be difficult to counter an expected response of 'wear and tear'.

how many miles have you done since purchase?

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so you have done, 70K MLS in 18mts... i take it you've been using it for your taxi job then?
 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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As others may try and help you, I would like to come with this side questions.

1. Are you up to date with the service intervals? every 5/to10 k miles? (especially for taxi purposes)

2. The amount of miles done will go straight out of warranty so toyota doesn't have any fault and as well not even the dealer.

just a side and personal opinion.

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at 18mts use and 70k you are going to have a very very hard time as the dealership etc etc will claim wear and tear on your usage. sorry dont think you can go anywhere with this unless you can prove it was there at sale and or is a known inherent fault.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi pettersuk,

my local garage has done all the services using Toyota genuine parts from Toyota dealership. 

the warranty is 5 years or 100000 miles whichever comes first, so my car has done only 75800 miles which is still under warranty, 

when first I've sent to dealer they didn't charge me for diagnosis, which I was told it was wrong fuel I've used, 2nd time they told me they drove the car about 11 miles they could not find any fault, 3rd time they told they would not diagnose under warranty, this is the same problem since 1st to 3rd time to them.

I hope it's clear to you 

Thank you 

 

Hi, dx100uk

the toyota provide 5yr 100000 miles warranty mine still under warranty, 

I've taken this car to another professional hybrid specialists garage they found two codes which is P3190 +B153A and they advised me to take the car to dealer when this can get fixed under warranty, 

why you should spend money on it. 

now I've talked to Toyota dealership but they refused to do this under warranty. 

I think this gives you understanding of my situation. 

Thank you 

 

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19 hours ago, sylhet said:

 

 

now I've talked to Toyota dealership but they refused to do this under warranty. 

Thank you 

 

ombudsman may be your only resolution as car it's still on warranty then, just double check and prepare all your documents for an eventual court claim.

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