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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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in reference to a couple of questions in the above posts , the SAR letter before claim has been sent to EPS but that was only this morning.

 

As to whether my details were passed to debt collectors , i don't know that for certain but suspect not as the only communications i received came from EPS themselves or Gladstone's

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the main discussion point seems to be around how much to claim for the data breach and vexatious claim arising from it . Guidance shared suggesting anything up to £2000 and some other case wins with payments of circa £500, FTMD's suggestion of £600 thus bringing into play high court bailiffs seems reasonable

 

 

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I only mentioned debt collectors as that would have worsened their position.

 

Post up a draft of the letter if you want, although I think what is already prepared is good enough, it just needs the £600 figure added. 

 

You know the drill about the free Certificate of Posting from the post office.

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i think that ftmd's draft covered it all, i did add a few words for context of distress, not sure if its needed although it is truthful , happy to be guided on that.....

 

Dear Sirs

 

Re: PCN no.XXXXX, County Court Claim no.XXXXX, Breach of General Data Protection Regulations (GDPR)

 

I refer to your obtaining my details from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency in the above matter. 

 

You had no justification for doing so. The extremely-short stay of my vehicle was allowed under the government Code of Practice, the BPA Code of Practice, the IPC Code of Practice and indeed by your contract with the landowner.

 

This is an extremely serious breach as you used my details to begin a vexatious court claim which caused me considerable distress in having to deal with this during my father’s ill health and end of life

 

I require payment of the sum of £600 within 14 days.  If you fail to effect payment I will start a claim in the county court.

 

Yours Sincerely

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It was mentioned further upthread that you were also moving home at the time? Also a stressful part of life...

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i saw that , but haven't moved house.

 

Maybe i mentioned moving homes for my mom who is in care as that was going on as well. I was juggling spending as much time with him given that it was end of life, still visiting mom , plus my own family and work which is why my witness statement was put together just in the final days before the deadline which i remember mentioning at the time, that i needed to get it done as deadline was approaching in amongst all of that

 

..... but such is life sometimes as you say . Now i also have the joys of probate , but i digress ..

 

ill wait for any other comments on that letter until in the morning and get it off tomorrow 

 

 

 

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Apologies for the "moving house" stuff.  I got you mixed up with someone else.

 

I think the letter you've prepared is excellent.  Send it off tomorrow and get a free CoP.  The fleecers will not be happy with demands for £800 over a couple of days 😀

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I reckon a week has now passed since your SAR LoC letter went off.

 

Northing from the fleecers?

 

If not it's time to draft a Particulars of Claim.  MoaningCrusader's is at post 46 here  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/452147-loc-to-ncp-for-failure-to-supply-sar-paid-in-full/page/2/#comments  and you could adapt it.

 

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When asking for financial recompense from that lot it is better to err on the side of greed rather than caution.😑 Whatever you ask for they are always going to haggle over the amount. So for example 50% of £2000 is still £1000 while 50% of £600 is only £300.

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drafting some POC's based on the links shared , see below , is there anything else i need to add here ?

 

The claimant submitted a subject access request pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018 to Euro Parking Services Ltd on January 4th 2023. 

 

The Defendant breached the statutory deadline of 30 days and has failed to make the disclosure. This failure is continuing 1 month later, despite further correspondence with the defendant’s data protection team and reasonable response time given. 

 

The defendant's breach of their statutory duty and the claimant's inability to access their personal data has caused them serious 
issues and distress.
 

 

 

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I would suggest two changes.  The bit about "further correspondence" was specific to Moaning Crusader's case, where the idiots leapt into action after the LoC and replied that they would deal with the SAR "as a matter of urgency".  Moaning Crusader gave them an additional week ... but the imbeciles still couldn't reply to the SAR and so were sued and beaten!

 

How about -

 

 

The claimant submitted a subject access request pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018 to Euro Parking Services Ltd on January 4th 2023. 

 

The defendant breached the statutory deadline of 30 days and has failed to make the disclosure. This failure is continuing 1 month later, despite further correspondence with the defendant’s data protection team and reasonable response time given. 

 

The defendant's breach of their statutory duty and the claimant's inability to access their personal data has caused them serious issues and distress, especially as the non-disclosure is occurring during protracted litigation between the parties, which was initiated by the defendant.

 

 

The point is to have something ready to start the claim on day 15 if they ignore you.

 

There is ample time between now and then for the others regulars to have a look and suggest changes.

 

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The PoCs look fine.

 

IIRC Tuesday is Day 15.  If the fleecers haven't cooperated by then, launch your claim.

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Well done.

 

Hit them in the pocket.

 

Let's see how they like being the ones on the end of a court claim.

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They will have an unpleasant surprise in the post.  Might focus their tiny mind, however if it doesn't and they ignore it, you go for a default judgment at the appropriate time.

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So tomorrow is Day 15 for the GDPR claim, right?

 

Time to draft a Particulars of Claim.  A bit from the LoC, and a bit from the SAR PoCs, should do the trick.

 

 

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i am not sure this is right it feels a little clunky, i tired to combine parts of the SAR poc's and parts of the data breach  loc  any feedback is appreciated

 

 

The defendant obtained my details from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency in connection with an alleged parking issue on private land occurring om 23/02/2021.

 

The claimant submitted a subject access request pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018 to Euro Parking Services Ltd on January 4th 2023 to establish the grounds on which the defendant claimed to have the right to access my data, which they have failed to respond to and remain in breach of the statutory duty.

 

The defendant had no justification for accessing my personal data. The extremely-short stay of my vehicle was allowed under the government Code of Practice, the BPA Code of Practice, the IPC Code of Practice and indeed by their contract with the landowner.

 

This is an extremely serious breach as the defendant used my details to begin a vexatious court claim. That claim caused me considerable distress as I had to deal with that claim during a time when I should have been able to focus solely on my father’s ill health and end of life

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Less is more.
 

On XX Month Year the Defendant accessed my personal data held by the Driver and Vehicle License Agency without reasonable cause. The Defendant used their access to my personal data to issue a county court claim against me which was totally without merit and subsequently discontinued.

On 4 January 2023 a data subject access request was submitted to the Defendant pursuant to the Data Protection Act 2018. The Defendant failed to respond to the request, has breached their statutory duty and continues to do so. The Defendant's breach of statutory duty and my inability to access my data in full has caused me distress.

I seek damages for distress £xxx.xx

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FruitSalas's revision is the one to use unless there are other suggestions, less is always more here as there  is no wriggle room for them then.  The personal circumstances you mentioned are of no consequence to the court, as they are not part of the Breach you are suing for.

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As this claim is for the GDPR data breach i was not sure of the extent to which the SAR issue should detailed with that matter being the  subject of a separate claim  . 

 

The feedback is appreciated,  

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I agree with FruitSalad that less is more.

 

I also think the SAR matter is irrelevant here.

 

The PoCs just need to be very short.  How about -

 

 

On XX Month Year the Defendant accessed my personal data held by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency without reasonable cause.

 

The Defendant used their access to my personal data to issue a county court claim against me which was totally without merit and was subsequently discontinued.

The Defendant's breach caused me considerable distress.

 

I seek damages for distress £xxx.xx

 

 

If none of the other regulars disagree, and if you hear nothing from the fleecers, issue the new claim tomorrow.

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