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It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act. 2.  I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. 3. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 4.  I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 5. The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’. The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents. 6. Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018. 7. Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicitor's is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’ 8. On (insert date) I successfully made application to set a side the judgment. The claim proceeded to allocation, 9. The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date. (insert date you did receive the documents) I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’. Remove irrelevant 10.The claimant relies upon and has exhibited a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement. It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HHJ Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’. The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause. 11. Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not mislead the court. 12. It is denied I have ever received a default Notice pursuant to sec 87(1) CCA1974.The claimant is put to strict proof to evidence from the original creditors internal document software the trigger of said notice.  13.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. 14. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024   Run 3 copies Court /Claimants Sol/File
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Hi all, 

 

Friend Stopped by plain clothes TFL officer on Sunday. Received the letter on Monday. Freedom pass misuse was a one off occurrence and of course would not do this again. 

 

The letter was received by parent at their address. 

 

This is not their address and has not been for over 7 years. When living there they were a teen.

 

Since then they have lived at 2 other addresses. 

 

What would be their next steps? Shall they ignore that this has happened or contact TFL and fess up? 

 

They would really appreciate any help and advice that can be offered. Really scary time for them. 

 

Regards, 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Freedom Pass Missues- Wrong Name, Old address initial letter received

Reply to the letter in 10 days 

 

It's only a one off lapse of reason because of xxx issue clouding his life 

 

Say sorry offer to pay all missed fares and admin fees to end the nightmare and move on 

 

Lots of examples here already 

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Still reply although they given incorrect details when initially stopped. 

Thank you quick response too. Really appreciate it

 

He would also like to put in a complaint about the officer in question as he was rude, racist and intimidating. He has his badge number. 

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I would not go there.

Its not a tit for tat matter 

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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1 hour ago, hoteljk said:

Still reply although they given incorrect details when initially stopped. 

 

Do you mean your friend gave the TfL officer who stopped him/her a "wrong name" and an old address (their parents address)?

 

How "wrong" was the name given to TfL when stopped? Just a minor difference in spelling? Or a completely different name?

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Hi-

 

I would appreciate it if someone could read this for my friend!  

 

To Whom It May Concern,
Thank you for your letter.
I would like to take this opportunity to apologise as I am extremely regretful and embarrassed of my
actions.


I now realise how much time, effort and resources goes into protecting the Freedom Bus Pass system
and how important it is to our country to protect our most vulnerable.


I am the only earner of my household where I live with my grandmother who has health conditions due
to old age. If this matter were to be settled in court this would affect my ability to continue my
graduate job as it requires a clean record because of the type of role it is.


I have worked incredibly hard at university to be in the position that I am in. Graduating into a
pandemic meant that I was unemployed for almost a year and eventually landed a role that I am proud
to have. If this matter was to be settled in court it would mean that I would no longer be in this position
as it requires a clean record.


This would be devastating to my future as I have aspirations to work with underprivileged youth and
work within the public sector in a healthcare management role.


I am sorry for using my mother's Freedom Pass which was given to her due to her disability. I am back
in Manchester now but I used my contactless payment card for any subsequent journeys whilst I was
in London and plan to buy a 7-day travelcard and Apprenticeship Oyster Photocard when I am in
London again.


I wish to apologise to members of staff concerned and to TFL. I am sorry for the inconvenience
caused. I would also like to thank the staff that I interacted with on that day. I spoke to the manager of
the gentleman that stopped me who despite the circumstances was extremely courteous and lovely
towards me. The staff took time to explain the severity of the case and I appreciate this very much.
Since visiting London I have realised how much time and effort goes into the TFL body. .


I have never been in trouble with the law and will ensure that I will NOT be in the future by always
producing a valid ticket. I'm sorry for my actions and can assure that it will never happen again and
has never happened before.


I of course would like to make immediate payment of necessary costs, fines, charges outstanding and
admin costs which I have incurred as a result of my inconsiderate and stupid behaviour and avoid a
criminal record thereby allowing me to plan for my future. Additionally. I would also be more than
happy to do any voluntary work/services for TFL to show how remorseful I am.


I understand that fare evasion is a serious matter, and hope you can consider avoiding settling this
matter in court.
Yours Faithfully.

 

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i would slip in somewhere ......this was a one off event and i didnt do that well either as i got caught the very day i tried to use it, that to me just underlines my total stupidity in even thinking it was ok to use when i knew all along it most probably wasn't

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Freedom Pass 1 Misuse - Wrong Name, Old address initial letter received

think so.

 

they are not in the habit of ruining the rest of peoples lives for one silly mistake.

 

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I given my mothers address, which is my old address from maybe 7 years ago. I guess this does not matter as I have replied to the letter now as I didn't want any further problems. 

 

Please could you remove the letter as I have emailed it now. I will post again after everything is over.  

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If you guys think it's unnecessary then it's fine. 

 

Thanks 

I have a feeling that they will not settle OOC. I don't really have any mitigating circumstances. 

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its there to help others.

like you found help

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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They have 6mts limit.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi, 

 

They have responded to the letter with requesting for a plea to be made. 

 

How should I tackle this now? 

 

Regards

 

Just a standard SJP. 

 

I had hoped it wouldn't get this far 

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you need to send another begging letter and follow the other like threads here over one misuse.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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If you mean the sjp court number then no 

 

What date have you to reply to the court by? 

 

If in the month you've been away, have you been reading up here on like cases?

 

You've only sent one begging letter to TfL? No other Comms at all till this SJP summons?

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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