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    • Hello, welcome to CAG. I imagine the letter that the security guards talked about will be a letter from a company or lawyers who specialise in trying to extract money from shoplifters. I think Sainsbury's use DWF solicitors, otherwise it could be a company like RLP. It won't be a 'fine', only the police can do that. Look at this as a parallel 'justice' system that doesn't involve the plice. If you read around the forum for other cases of shoplifting, you'll get the idea of how this all works. If you think your behaviour has become compulsive, we suggest having a chat with your GP who should get you help for this. Best, HB
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    • Hi all…. i was wondering if someone could help me. I am ashamed I have been caught shoplifting from Sainsbury’s by two undercover security guards who I suspect have been following me for a week now… I have been impulsively shoplifting due to what I think could have become an addiction of some kind. I am ashamed of what I had been doing and I do believe being caught has been for the greater good. i was taken to a room and asked to empty my bag, the guards were slightly rude but I complied with them politely as I know they are just doing their job and I am in the wrong. They retrieved my address, name, birthdate and took a photo of me, they asked me how many times I had shoplifted and I said twice and I didn’t want to be foolish and say just once. They issued me a letter of ban from the store and if I was caught in the store again the police would be called. They told me I would be paying 2x what I had stolen today as the goods had been damage which I am guessing is stole around £65 worth roughly. I did offer to pay for the items I had stolen on the day but they declined. They did not call the police but let me leave after claiming I was a lucky person. They told me to expect a letter in the post and that I “would be smart not to ignore it”  what should I be expecting in the post from them? I am aware from reading a lot online about security costs.. people mentioned to ignore these costs however as I had damaged the labelling on the goods should I still comply and pay the fines ?  kind regards awful shoplifter
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But surely as I was only collecting a member of staff (so my registration wasn't logged) and stayed longer than the 10 minute window, their issue is correct?

 

I may have the complete wrong end of the stick

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10 mins min.. Under their old boys club guidelines there is no maximum

we have seen 17 mins allowed and speculative invoice cancelled.

 

dont panic all is not lost far from it!!!!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The logging of the registration number is not something set out in an Act of Parliament!  It's simply an internal system they have to stop staff members getting tickets.  When you explained you were picking up a member of staff they could have cancelled your ticket but chose not to, because they never do and are only interested in £££££.

 

You need to reply with a snotty letter otherwise they are highly likely to take you to court.  How about -

 

Dear Parking Eye,

 

Re: PCN no. XXXXX

 

cheers for your Letter Before Claim.  I creased up at the idea you thought I would actually take such tripe seriously and cough up!

 

You know full well that I was picking up a member of staff and had every right to park in the staff spaces so I'm not paying you a bean.

 

If you want a good thrashing in court then bring it on, I will enjoy getting an unreasonable costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spending it all on a foreign holiday now we can all travel again, while all the time laughing at you.

 

I look forward to your deafening silence.

 

Now, we don't usually advise including how you would defend a claim in the snotty letter, but in your case I have done so as you've already stated your reasons in an appeal.  However, hang on and see what the other regulars have to say in the course of the the day.

 

It's interesting that PE are demanding £100.  Usually at LoC stage all the PPCs make up extra money we call the Unicorn Food Tax and demand £160.  In their LoC was there a reply pack or similar?

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post it up so we are sure you are not making silly mistakes.

 

yes I&E is part of the PAPLOC reply pack , but you ignore their pack totally.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Send the letter off exactly as in post 29 by 2nd class post and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office.

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This is what I put - I put it in the post box before I saw the last post so have no proof of postage. I should ruddy learn to do that!

 

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Thank you for your Letter Before Claim. I am amazed that you thought I would I take your letter seriously and actually pay you!

 

You know full well that I was picking up a member of staff and had every right to park in the staff spaces so I'm not paying you a penny.

 

If you want a good thrashing in court then bring it on, I will enjoy getting an unreasonable costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spending it all on a foreign holiday now we can all travel again, while all the time laughing at you.

 

I look forward to your deafening silence.

 

 

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No problem, it will still get there and have the same effect - hopefully of leaving you in peace and instead going after some mug more likely to cough up.

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Hopefully they'll crawl back under their stone and you never will!

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unless from dcb legal and entitled a letter of claim, with a reply pack and an I&E sheet, safe to ignore the DCA (DCBL ch.5. bailiffs acting as a powerless DCA)

read like threads

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Safe to ignore then not a letter of claim.

 

Dx

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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This after Parking Eye have already sent a Letter of Claim and been snotty lettered in response.

 

You told them to go ahead and do court and so ...

 

... they've got you to open an envelope.

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