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    • Thank you for posting up the results from the sar. The PCN is not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4. Under Section 9 [2][a] they are supposed to specify the parking time. the photographs show your car in motion both entering and leaving the car park thus not parking. If you have to do a Witness Statement later should they finally take you to Court you will have to continue to state that even though you stayed there for several hours in a small car park and the difference between the ANPR times and the actual parking period may only be a matter of a few minutes  nevertheless the CEL have failed to comply with the Act by failing to specify the parking period. However it looks as if your appeal revealed you were the driver the deficient PCN will not help you as the driver. I suspect that it may have been an appeal from the pub that meant that CEL offered you partly a way out  by allowing you to claim you had made an error in registering your vehicle reg. number . This enabled them to reduce the charge to £20 despite them acknowledging that you hadn't registered at all. We have not seen the signs in the car park yet so we do not what is said on them and all the signs say the same thing. It would be unusual for a pub to have  a Permit Holders Only sign which may discourage casual motorists from stopping there. But if that is the sign then as it prohibits any one who doesn't have a permit, then it cannot form a contract with motorists though it may depend on how the signs are worded.
    • Defence and Counterclaim Claim number XXX Claimant Civil Enforcement Limited Defendant XXXXXXXXXXXXX   How much of the claim do you dispute? I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form.   Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it? No, for other reasons.   Defence 1. The Defendant is the recorded keeper of XXXXXXX  2. It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3. As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance. The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner. Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 4. In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5. The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 6. In a further abuse of the legal process the Claimant is claiming £50 legal representative's costs, even though they have no legal representative. 7. The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all. Signed I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true XXXXXXXXXXX 01/05/2024   Defendant's date of birth XXXXXXXXXX   Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you  
    • pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’.  Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time.  You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID.  You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.<<**IMPORTANT**  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?486334-CPR-31.14-Request-to-use-on-receipt-of-a-PPC-(-Private-Land-Parking-Court-Claim type your name ONLY no need to sign anything .you DO NOT await the return of paperwork. you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform.
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So lets take the 'easier documentation route

 

What have the Brexit government, who shouted about all the benefits with no risks, actually done to manage rather than munge the brexit they sold? (apart from 'hostile environment' shipping people who have lived and worked here all their life off to Jamaica)

* Border/customs? - as they shouted so loudly about protecting them

* Standards ec/kite mark ? - as they claimed standards would increase

* trade deals bigger than the EU across the world? - or even English produce able to be picked and shipped across England let alone anywhere else

 

Even that claimed 'billions spent on training' unclebulgaria regurgitates from some populist ministers dishonest and deceiving soundbite:

- where's that then other than on some populist spreadsheet claiming some actually reduced existing/prior 'possible' (as in not against the laws of physics despite nothing real being in place) expenditure, as new ... let alone actually implemented/spent on training

 

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Maybe HB - were they really that incompetent?

- they will no doubt claim 'how could anyone know' despite many others who clearly did know and say, but were they really that incompetent? - and there is no excuse for claims of 'no one could have expected it' now

They managed to set up a fast track lane for approving £millions for pubs landlords, pet and cake shop populist pals to get money for PPE they didn't have pretty damn quick - and they've apparently paid them in advance

 

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This may not be directly related to what you're saying but I'm sure Chris Grey has written about it recently in his blog. This is the fifth anniversary edition with links to previous weeks.

 

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Seems odd to let scientists/politicians promoting damaging policies/narratives; let alone in a pandemic; off the hook because they CLAIM they were only doing what they believed in. When what they believed was not evidenced & what they said did untold harm.

 

- slightly paraphrasing Deepti Gurdasani

 

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Simon Jenkins in the Guardian. I always thought he was in favour of leaving.

 

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Don't worry TJ with the Vaccine Passports aka Social Control Passes, people will get Social Credits to top up their UBI by picking vegetables..............In the ALL DIGITAL Britcoin Sunak sunny uplands...

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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LOL

 

taxing working pensioners more to pay for those not working and in care homes aren't they - bet that doesn't include 'pensioners like Prince Charles and Lord hahhaw of France .. (who, last I heard, was leaving France because they wanted details on his earnings) or the many over 65-67's in the lords and parliament let alone MD's

 

.. in addition to Johnsons 2.5% increase in NI .. yep 2.5% NOT the 1.25% Johnson lies about 1.25% from employees and 1.25% from employers - many of whom will undoubtedly consider it a raise for the workers ..

So thats around 12 billion in extra NI charges plus the 25 billion in other taxes - they'll be able to cover their mates bills in just a few years at that rate

- no way the NHS and care system will get more than a tiny bit of it.

 

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Boris's Brexit going well ?

 

BBC News - UK on course to drop from Germany's top 10 trading partners https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58484454

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and the (literally now - see wild weather)  poopulists think US trade is going to be 'better'

LOL - they should ask the US's more important partners mexico and Canada how that works

 

Mind you. Johnson will get a taste of his own medicine in that the US will happily 'renegotiate' (renege?) any deal as soon as it suits

- although unlike Johnson, they tend to get a better deal at the other parties expense.

 

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It's David and Goliath, isn't it? Fairly obvious who will win, plus a US trade deal can take up to 10 years.

 

Changing the subject, Patel is threatening to send migrant boats back into French waters and have the UK's interpretation of maritime law rewritten so it looks as if it doesn't break international law. Or the Geneva convention.

 

She suggested to Gerald Darmanin of France that they should set up a joint patrol force. I loved his reply that it would infringe French sovereignty. :lol:

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Thats actually a superb response in so many ways

 

Can the UK hire him?

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It's David and Goliath, isn't it? Fairly obvious who will win, plus a US trade deal can take up to 10 years.

 

 

Not if one side (the USA) gets everything it wants straight away HB

If Australia can get a deal thats 6x better for Australia than the UK ....

- seemingly without even trying very hard

- I doubt the UK could afford a US deal - even before Johnson bankrupted us

 

.. let alone just England and wales

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UK now in a spiral of tax increases to cover increased costs.

 

The mixture or Brexit and Covid is deadly.

 

UK after Brexit  wanted to set up as the worlds biggest financial centre with light touch regulation. This won't happen, as the trade deals with US and other countries will not enable this.   The EU Brexit deal did not include financial services from what I remember.

 

Where next for the UK economy ?

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Boris 'Inveterate and unapologetic LIAR' Johnson lies:

“We should never forget, after all we’ve been through, that we are the party of free enterprise, the private sector and low taxation.”

 

While the so called party of low taxes is implementing the highest tax load on the nation since world war 2 (IFS)

- despite running away from a quite small war in Afghanistan as they just can't cope on their own - and nobody trusts them enough to work with them

-  mostly because of monstrous waste and mismanagement in the COVID crisis, and monstrous incompetent and neglectful  mismanagement of Brexit

 

The so called party of business and the private sector

is putting UK businesses out of business through populist policies and failures, NOT business capability and competitiveness and failure to manage the Brexit issues the populists themselves generated

 

The so called Party of 'free enterprise'

implements a preference for crony pals (no matter how lacking in requirements) fast lane - hardly free enterprise, just preference for pals - massively at the cost of the NHS - to pay which (their pals) the tax increases are undoubtedly aimed

 

The so called Party of sovereignty

runs whinging to the US and Australia 'please please give us a deal, anything, we wont cheat you like we do the others just give us a deal headline' 

and to France to help police sovereign UK waters ... in a way that breaches international law)...

.. and to the USA or France to host the UK  'sovereign' nuclear deterrent

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Oh and another over streached bubble going pop

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With more properly regulated businesses moving to the EU, whats left with in the incompetent poopulist run UK may well make the UK and its taxpayers IMMENSELY vulnerable to this sort of thing ...

 

Yes, Brexiters like Redwood, Smugg and dyson have moved a lot of their business to the EU, but its what movers (rats/sinking ships?) leave in the UK we should worry about: are they liferafts .. or lead weights?

 

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Oh and back to the Australia deal Truss/UK poopulist surrender terms ...

 

"Just weeks before the UK hosts what have been described as the most important climate talks ever, it has emerged ministers dropped pledges to bind Australia to climate targets in its efforts to strike a trade deal.

The revelation, coming from a leaked email obtained by Greenpeace, will heap further pressure on Johnson ahead of the Cop26 summit in Glasgow at the end of next month. Greenpeace said the concession “rips the heart out of” the landmark Paris aims, while Labour called it “a massive betrayal of our country and our planet”"

- Independent

 

 

https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/uk-secretly-ditches-climate-pledge-in-australia-trade-deal/

 

"In a leaked email seen by Greenpeace UK, three senior ministers, Liz Truss (Secretary of State for International Trade), David Frost (Minister of State for EU Relations) and Kwasi Kwarteng (Secretary of State for Business) are named as agreeing to ditch references to the temperature commitments in the Paris Agreement on climate in order to get the Australian trade deal “over the line”.

This renders using the term Paris Agreement utterly useless."

 

"Just last month the UK Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, wrote to Greenpeace and other environmental NGOs reaffirming that any trade deal with Australia would, “include a chapter on trade and environment which not only reaffirms commitments to multilateral environmental agreements, including the Paris Agreement but also commits both parties to collaborate on climate and environmental issues. We are clear that more trade will not come at the expense of the environment.”

Details from the leaked email demonstrate that what Boris Johnson wrote in that letter was a lie."

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Supermarket Food shortages here for the long term and going to get worse says Food and Drink Federation boss.

 

JIT (just in time) system relied on by many industries for the last 25 years has (as long defined as a cost of brexit, but falsely denied by Brexit cheerleaders) has collapsed mostly due to Brexit generated 'hostile environment' labour shortages including food pickers, lorry drivers and food processing workers and Brexit generated customs delays and costs

 

 

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‘We are now in for permanent shortages’, says boss of Food and Drink Federation

 

 

 

Perhaps Patel should be asking the boat migrants if they can drive lorries, pick fruit or process food before she risks drowning them?

 

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From TJ's post: ‘We are now in for permanent shortages’, says boss of Food and Drink Federation

 

No 10 spokesman says food shortages will be over by Christmas. Just like the UK seeing off Covid in 12 weeks, as Alastair Campbell tweeted.

 

‘We are now in for permanent shortages’, says boss of Food and Drink Federation

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