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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Hilarious, if largely  predictable and expected

 

What is unclear, and maybe even more hilarious, may be nut nuts response ...

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Well, Alastair Campbell's take on it is based on Johnson's known habit of acting on what the last person he speaks to tells him to do.

 

So he thinks last night Carrie Antoinette went ballistic and Johnson got Jack Doyle to do his dirty work by ringing the editor of the New European late evening. Then this morning someone else in no 10 took a look at the situation and decided to calm things down.

 

The Streisand effect and the name publicity seem to have helped the paper's profile enormously.

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and no surprises ..

 

Conservative MP simply cuts his reported consultancy hours from 30 to 15 hours ..

... for the same £3,000 a month as he got for the previously reported 30 hours a month

 

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The monthly amount of hours Shrewsbury's MP commits to his second job has halved, according to the latest register of interests.

 

 

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The MP resigned last week after a government U-turn on efforts to block his suspension from parliament for breaching lobbying rules

 

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as the BBC temporarily escapes Dacre formalising the final stage of the conversion of the BBC into the Boris Broadcasting Company - or Boris Today

... in another area it is offered a more open choice between Just Johnson right, or right far right

 

- The misuse of taxpayer money in funding Johnson party propaganda just isnt cutting it and the BBC (Boris Broadcasting Company) license fee money is needed to present the required message - not challenging the message simply isnt enough anymore)

 

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A number of people are in the running for Marr's slot.

 

 

Bet Victoria Derbyshire is also already under attack by Johnson 'the corrupt liar'

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Dacre's gone back to the Mail, hopefully he'll stay there.

 

Meanwhile, Flanders has attracted over £2bn in investment by UK firms because of Brexit and also firms from North America, etc, who might previously have set up in the UK.

 

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Seems some are seeing some difference here - seemed just the usual to me.

 

Maybe his plan is, Incompetence doesn't get me out, corruption doesn't get me out, perhaps mental health issues might get me out before I have to deliver something worthwhile, or at least before Brexit reality really kicks in?

- oops he thinks, wish i hadn't defunded and poo poo'd mental health issues

 

.. But Boris, being a corrupt lying incompetent who doesn't give a crap about anything except self interest isn't an illness, its a requirement for positions of responsibility power and personal profit under your government

 

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I thought it was toecurlingly embarrassing and it certainly hasn't earned him any friends in the Tory party. Or in business, while Kier Starmer seems have gone down quite well with the CBI.

 

There's a lot of talk of how much longer he can hang on within his own party.

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one Tory MP said 'he needs a break'

- remind me - how many luxury holidays (paid for by peerages and VIPals PPE contracts (allegedly)) has he had?

- let alone him hiding away 'allegedly 'writing his book' during multiple crisis

- let alone avoiding issues and questions in parliament - when he bothers to go

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Says a great deal about the cabinet Johnson picked eh?

 

I wouldn't vote for any of them .. even against Corbyn,

but they ALL (Johnsons Cabinet and Corbyn) inspire me to vote for Starmer, or any of the labour probables

... even if Starmer himself doesn't :-/

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On top of breaking the promises for a high speed rail link in the north, the leveling up/covering the drop in money from the EU promises - out the window

Red wall = conned wall (well apart from those who wouldn't vote for Corbyn .. with reson IMO)

 

"Business groups and local councils are protesting at a hidden £1.65bn post-Brexit cut to development funding in the north, in a fresh blow to Boris Johnson’s claims to be “levelling up” the country."

 

"South Yorkshire is poised to lose £900m and Tees Valley and Durham £750m over six years, the organisations are telling Michael Gove."

 

"The Red Wall areas, plus Lincolnshire, were in line to receive the cash because they have become relatively poorer since the last spending round which finished last year.

The government pledged to match lost EU funding after Brexit – to “tackle inequality and deprivation”, it said – but is now accused of a second broken promise."

 

 

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Macron has said on French TV that foreign minister Darmanin is meeting with his EU opposite numbers about migration issues. He's cancelled seeing Patel in Calais on Sunday.

 

Macron also said that France wants to deal with people who are serious about dealing with things. He particularly didn't appreciate letters being published and negotiation by tweet. Whatever you say about French politicians, they do give the impression of being professional.

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I wondered how long this would take. There's talk in France [article in Le Monde yesterday evening] of opting out of the Le Touquet agreement which makes the French responsible for the UK's border in terms of migrants. With two years' notice, they could stop the responsibility and leave the UK to sort itself out.

 

On a different tack, someone on BFM TV this morning pointed out that some of the bosses of the people smuggling gangs are in the UK. He wondered what HMG is doing about that.

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Too true HB, particularly when you look at johnson 'the corrupt incompetent liar's proposal that UK border force would effectively 'manage' the french forces on French soil - sovereignty? ...

 

.. as you say when many of the alleged traffickers are allegedly in the UK using UK financial systems to manage the proceeds from the trafficking ... allegedly  ..

 

I think Johnsons just trying to run it all out until the brink of an election - I also think that the corruption stink has somewhat curtailed Johnsons plans for an early election - he'll be hoping if he ignores it it will all just blow over and his rating will bounce back up again - although God knows why he has any ratings other than pi** off you lying corrupt piece of s*** is beyond me.

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Oh - and I think far more than simply withdrawing from the Touqet agreement - a full blown trade war with sanctions is on the cards - Johnson has brinked it hoping the EU would crack (and they did offer some concessions which Johnson/Frost rejected) and backed off

 

Johnson is after an election - I really do think he'll be relieved if he loses ..

 

 

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200k? - thats just half a peanut compared to what he has squandered

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Really? I doubt that

Seen the headlines, but no way johnson has paid it himself - absolutely zero - the money will have come from some dodgy source

 

Rather like saying a drug dealer paid himself for the london mansion he bought as an investment - from the 'london based' arm of his bank via some tax havens fiddle

.. or perhaps? a better simile - like some drug dealer bought his politician a mansion ...

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So Johnson's latest missive to Macron, published online before Macron saw it, has possibly had the opposite effect of what was intended [unsurprisingly] and Patel has been disinvited to the ministerial meeting on borders and migrants in Calais tomorrow.

 

One of the things the French are particularly not happy about is that Johnson wants to send back to France anyone who lands in Britain from a small boat, as he seems to want to brand them all 'illegal'.

 

Can someone explain to me why the French would want to do this? Many asylum applications are accepted, but a lot of the people crossing are doing it because there aren't legal routes for them.

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Boris and Pritti are making it very difficult to reach any cooperation agreements with other countries.

 

Migration is a world problem and is not easily solvable. 

 

I am sure that many migrants are escaping terrible situations in their countries of origin, but there are also many migrants who are travelling to countries where they believe they would have a better qualify of life, to join family already resident etc.

 

UK Government have not taken the steps required for years.   There needs to be international cooperation to provide assistance to people, so they can find safety closer to their countries of origin  and where appropriate so they can join family members who have already settled in other countries.  

 

Because of Brexit and the politics that go with that, it is almost impossible to hold any debate about assisting migrants joining family that are already living in the UK.

 

 

 

 

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So Johnson's latest missive to Macron, published online before Macron saw it, has possibly had the opposite effect of what was intended [unsurprisingly] and Patel has been disinvited to the ministerial meeting on borders and migrants in Calais tomorrow.

 

One of the things the French are particularly not happy about is that Johnson wants to send back to France anyone who lands in Britain from a small boat, as he seems to want to brand them all 'illegal'.

 

Can someone explain to me why the French would want to do this?

 

Nope, but many reasons why they wouldn't

 

Would Johnnson allow UK beaches and skies to be patrolled by French border forces and drones?

Would Johnson accept immigrants from France - even if they originated from prior British controlled areas of Africa let alone anywhere else?

With Patel and Frosts rhetoric, would anyone tell them anything except Pi** off?

Given Johnson and Frosts stated readiness to simply trash recently agreed international deals, why would anyone agree anything with them (which required investment and risk on their part)?

 

Given we are largely where the Brexit johnson and the Brexiters have defined would always have put us, - why wasn't all this sorted and organised before the referendum, let alone before we left the EU?

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Obviously those that drove it feared that defining the actual outcome rather than running on with the Brexit campaign lies would likely result in the referendum result being overturned.

 

The Polls (for what they are worth) are now showing a majority for remain/rejoin are they not?

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Funny how no one mentions that it was the policies of B Liar  ,Bush and the Sainted Obama that’s at the root cause of the current migration troubles 

Johnson was elected to control immigration and the red wall seats will expect nothing less 

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