Credit Limits International (CLI) & parking fine from Sept 2014 in Italy

[efc2011]

hi there sorry i am not 100% sure i should be asking this here...

 

over the last 6 weeks i have received 3 letters from Credit Limits International regarding a parking fine from September 2014 in Italy. with legal costs, interest and compensation the fine is now £212.

now these are the first letters i have ever received over this matter and at first i just ignored it but in one of the letters it said they had a European enforcement order,

i spoke to them on the phone and asked them to send me everything they had by email.they sent me the original letters from the Italian police (which i have no knowledge of ever receiving) but no enforcement order.

 

when i spoke to them i told them i wasn't denying that it was me and would gladly pay the original fine of £98 but because of the timescale and the fact this is the first Ive heard of the fine then i am unhappy about paying everything else.they told me i would have to pay it all. In the email they sent me with the police letters they also said this" Regrettably if payment is not made we will register the existing Italian court judgement in the UK and consider legal enforcement options. " now this tells me that they don't have an enforcement order and that they are just trying to scare me into paying.

 

i received another email today from them saying they still hadn't heard back and then this" We have explained that this debt relates to an enforceable order and that you must pay the above balance in full in order to prevent prosecution in this country. "so i am unsure what to do next, i just want to know if they can take me to court in this country or could they send bailiffs round to my home ?

also is there a time limit on things like this and as its 5 years old in September  are they pushing because of that ?

 

thanks any advice would be grateful

 

[AndyOrch]

Thread moved to the appropriate forum...please continue to post here to your thread.

 

Not sure they can still use a European Enforcement Order,...doubt they have an uncontested judgment anyway

 

https://www.gov.uk/eu-withdrawal-act-2018-statutory-instruments/the-european-enforcement-order-european-order-for-payment-and-european-small-claims-procedure-amendment-etc-eu-exit-regulations-2018

 

To have a judgment certified as a European Enforcement Order (EEO), 

Once the European Enforcement Order has been issued by the court, it must be sent to the enforcement authority of the Member State where the debtor lives or where his/her assets are.

As well as the European Enforcement Order, a copy of the original judgment must be sent, and a translation of the European Enforcement Order certificate may be required, depending on what languages are accepted by the enforcement authority in the other Member State. No other formalities are required, and the judgment can be enforced in the other Member State.

 

Are they really going to all the above trouble to collect £212.00 ?  

 

Regards

 

Andy

[dx100uk]

your big mistake was taking to them om the phone

they hoped you'd fall for the lies they will say in person as you didn't record the call.

 

little tip: on ANY DEBT ...never ever phone a DCA, they are powerless here and anywhere else and are not BAILIFFS but will lie just to get their free money to buy the nights drink out of a mug that thinks any different.

 

Thread title amended

 

dx

 

[efc2011]

ive just read this thread not realizing it was here after i posted a similar thread today.

 

i am having the same problem with CLI they are chasing me for a parking fine in Italy from 2014 that i knew nothing about, they are threatening  me with a European enforcement order

but when i asked them to email me the order they couldn't as they don't have one.

 

i actually spoke to them after the 3rd letter they sent and told them i wasn't denying that i was in Italy at the time but was unhappy about the extra cost added to the fine as i didn't know about the fine until their first letter arrived. 

 

they emailed me again today with a final notice that's when i came onto this site for advice, from now on i wont be acknowledging them

 

thanks

[efc2011]

thanks for the advice and pointing me to the other thread, much appreciated 

[ericsbrother]

I bet CLI didnt say they would register the judgement in the UK etc as they dont actually have the authority to do so.

Look up italian police bogus ticket and you will see that this is very common as they have 360 days to issue the fine so it is in their interest to just make stuff up and try their luck nealry a year later. as yours is from 2014 they wont be pushing for a court to go after you and hence thsi buch of chancers hoping to earn a few quid from your naivety

[Jamberson]

How was this "moved to the appropriate forum"? This forum is for UK council PCNs. This one is a fine issued by the Italian police!

[AndyOrch]

Because we dont have an Italian Forum for the equivalent ......  

[Jamberson]

Well that's as maybe, but it's still nothing to do with council PCNs.

 

I note the site does have

General Motoring Issues If you can't find an appropriate forum for your problem then please post here.

 

Maybe that would be better?

Edited July 1, 2019 by Jamberson

[AndyOrch]

This forum is also for Traffic Offences.......UK....as stated we dont have an Italian Version of this section.

 

If the OP wishes their thread to be placed in Motoring Issues..then they can contact the Site Team...although I doubt they would get any response with regards to the Legal Process of defending a traffic offence.

[Jamberson]

You ARE the site team.

 

What does this mean:

If you can't find an appropriate forum for your problem then please post here.

Whatever. Have it your way if you want to be right.

[efc2011]

i just received this letter from them yesterday, looks like they will keep on trying...

 

i expect the doorstep collection letter next...

 

 

FINAL NOTICE

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Creditor:	Polizia Municipale Di Sanremo
Details of the offence:	ART.7 C1 E 14 - Parked in fee-parking area without displaying a ticket
Car reference:	WI-AR3748 From "Avis Budget"
CLI reference:	XXXXXX (please quote on all communications and payments)
Infraction Amount	? 98.16 (converted from ?113.87)
Interest:	? 37.86
Statutory Legal Costs	? 53.73
Compensation:	? 24.00
Debt Collection Costs:	? 0.00
VAT on Collection Costs:	? 0.00
Balance due:	? 213.75

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We regret that you have not yet made further contact with us.

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We have already informed our client that you have not taken the opportunity of our appointment to resolve this matter amicably and that it is now appropriate to take further action against you.

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We are aware that you may not be in a position to make full payment at this time and we would welcome your proposals to settle the debt in instalments.

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If you contact us within 7 days and make repayment proposals, further recovery action against you can be avoided. You just need to tell us:

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? The monthly payment you are able to pay

? How you will be paying

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We urge you to make contact today in order to avoid further action being taken against you.

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Finally, may we remind you of your right to seek free independent legal advice from debt organisations such as the National Debtline, Stepchange, or your local Citizens Advice Bureau.

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We look forward to hearing from you.

[dx100uk]

oh I bet your scared..not

[Fevola]

Hi efc2011,

 

Have you received anything further from CLI? I just received my third letter which I haven’t opened yet but I’ve ignored the first two. Am debating whether to return to sender but ill

likely open it and definitely ignore it.

 

Thanks,

 

 

[dx100uk]

No ignore

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